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by Holtyclaret
Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: January transfer window rumours.
Replies: 2353
Views: 286957

Re: January transfer window rumours.

Clive 1960 wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:40 am
we need another striker if Foster is out with the ankle injury he picked at Spurs unless Larsen is the answer..
We need a striker anyway, despite fosters knock but Ings isn’t the answer
by Holtyclaret
Sat Jan 06, 2024 6:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Amdouni
Replies: 133
Views: 17191

Re: Amdouni

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:47 pm
That was posted on the 8th of September mate - recently said that it's finally started to come together but it's leaving us with an awful lot to do.
Why I was surprised you’d said it, sorry should have noticed the date 👍🏻👍🏻
by Holtyclaret
Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Amdouni
Replies: 133
Views: 17191

Re: Amdouni

There was a real connection built between team and fans last season though, special moments shared. When the majority of them aren’t then playing in your opening three fixtures for a team that doesn’t look any better then the sort of ‘feel good factor’ is of course gone and it also makes supporters...
by Holtyclaret
Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Font
Replies: 178
Views: 11304

Re: Burnley Font

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:34 pm
Am I the only one that assumed this post was about some Burnley based historical Baptism stone bowl that had been discovered ?
😂😂
by Holtyclaret
Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Font
Replies: 178
Views: 11304

Re: Burnley Font

There's a lot to reply against here whilst being concise, I'll just address some of the points mainly the Yank/American stuff - I'd just like to preface this that I'm not against anyone supporting the club from anywhere - that's brilliant, but important to note that I don't think one off match day ...
by Holtyclaret
Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spurs (A)
Replies: 50
Views: 5167

Re: Spurs (A)

VK says there won't be big changes, Beyer will be missing through injury. Ekdal and Cork still unavailable. We have another Centre half injury crisis, yet McNally remains on loan with Stoke.. Hardly a crisis worthy of ruining a decent loan for McNally. Beyer back for Luton and Ekdal close to a re-r...
by Holtyclaret
Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spurs (A)
Replies: 50
Views: 5167

Re: Spurs (A)

Hopefully rotate the squad ahead of Luton
by Holtyclaret
Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57387

Re: Benson to Southampton

It's a period of uncertainty from now until the end. It's not looking good you can roughly assume or think along them lines without being certain. When would you like people to discuss the possible ramifications concerning relegation when it's mathematically confirmed. Not quite sure what you’re ge...
by Holtyclaret
Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57387

Re: Benson to Southampton

People often say this but I always point to our shirt sponsor in sort of 2018 or so with (I think) Laba Bet which was around the top 10-12 deals in the PL, pushing up around £8 Million The sponsor from last season was one of the lowest in the Champ - I'm not sure on this seasons (don't have the dat...
by Holtyclaret
Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Could Benson and Zaroury be off ??
Replies: 93
Views: 10699

Re: Could Benson and Zaroury be off ??

It would be a real strange decision to let both of them go in the same window and does leave a strange sense that something is not right. Both have something to offer. Or could their squad spaces be better utilised by incoming players lined up? Your guess is as good as anyone’s right now but there ...
by Holtyclaret
Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57387

Re: Benson to Southampton

Tbf there is probably more known about rocket science than our financial position !! Why do you think “general revenue has increased considerably” from the last time we were in the premier league and got relegated ? Are tv revenues that different ? Season ticket revenues gone up much ? We are prett...
by Holtyclaret
Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57387

Re: Benson to Southampton

Yes we are…..but not in a good way. Last time we had brought in the best part of a £100m in transfer fees and this time we will have had a similar amount been spent. The lack of published accounts or transparency over our current debt levels, outside investment and many other key areas makes it ver...
by Holtyclaret
Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57387

Re: Benson to Southampton

You assume far too much. The reason we ended up with no management is down to 1 person & we had players but the good 1s wanted out & didn't want to drop down a league. I honestly think had we stayed up it wouldn't have made much of a difference, pope didn't have long left & JT wouldn't extend that ...
by Holtyclaret
Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57387

Re: Benson to Southampton

You proffer an opinion but do not address the four basic points: 1) The players who can leave will likely be able to do so because there will be relegation clauses both in favour of the club in terms of wages and the players in terms of their ability to leave. 2) The PL payments will reduce substan...
by Holtyclaret
Tue Jan 02, 2024 6:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57387

Re: Benson to Southampton

How do you know? The players will have relegation clauses and potentially big wage deductions in their contracts. There is a decent sized drop in the broadcast revenue received from the PL and the debt is much higher this time around. Because I think our recent and current income, combined with a p...
by Holtyclaret
Tue Jan 02, 2024 4:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57387

Re: Benson to Southampton

We'll revisit your unfathomably optimistic posts about the future in August ... I genuinely fear a repeat of the mid 1980s , indeed at this moment in time I really cannot see anything but financial disaster . Nothing overly optimistic about that statement. We’re within a process that’ll be judged i...
by Holtyclaret
Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fosters Improvement
Replies: 119
Views: 8463

Re: Fosters Improvement

Obviously its dependent on his form to the end of the season. Hes got 4 in 11 and 3 assists, so if for example he gets to 10 goals and 5 assists in his first prem season, I think 40m would have to be the bare minimum. Every club in the world wants a striker with those attributes that he has shown s...
by Holtyclaret
Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fosters Improvement
Replies: 119
Views: 8463

Re: Fosters Improvement

Of course theres the chance he could go up in value with us further but say we go down and his value is £40 million. Do we say no and keep hold of him hoping we can go back up and get his value up to £60 mill? Bearing in mind the issues that hes had, or the potential of a severe injury, its probabl...
by Holtyclaret
Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fosters Improvement
Replies: 119
Views: 8463

Re: Fosters Improvement

His improvement's been fantastic to watch. We're a different team with him, we actually look like we might score and put up a fight. Ex Lehman Bros and Citibank executive who bought Burnley with the club's own money and loans (that are being paid off with the club's income & other owns, not his own...
by Holtyclaret
Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fosters Improvement
Replies: 119
Views: 8463

Re: Fosters Improvement

Our plan is to constantly 'rinse and repeat' in terms of buying cheap and selling on at peak value regardless of what level we are at. The wingers might stay because you could argue they arent at peak value, Foster is more risky Fosters peak value is probably 4-5 years off. His Burnley peak value w...
by Holtyclaret
Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57387

Re: Benson to Southampton

The finances have become convaluted but I would guess that what happened to us last time with regard to relegation would happen again and we would have a bit of a fire sale so the logic of selling 1 * £12 million may not apply because of the loss of PL broadcast revenue and possibly contractual agr...
by Holtyclaret
Mon Jan 01, 2024 8:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Players Out On Loan
Replies: 11
Views: 1763

Re: Players Out On Loan

Stevie harper went to Mansfield and came back ‘re born’
by Holtyclaret
Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Adam and Wallace leaving Burnley
Replies: 10
Views: 1460

Re: ARTICLE: Adam and Wallace leaving Burnley

Could be time for Cork to continue his coaching journey and replace Adam. Would be great if he stayed with club beyond this year.
by Holtyclaret
Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany needs to stay
Replies: 103
Views: 6266

Re: Kompany needs to stay

A handful have developed yes, have they developed enough to stay up. No not even remotely close. A handful might be premier league players by the end of the season. Then we will sell them and we start all over again but in a league below that will no doubt result in a complete re build of the squad...
by Holtyclaret
Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57387

Re: Benson to Southampton

Benson hasn’t featured much because he hasn’t been fit and available much. Quite a reaction to a bit of gossip that a club have enquired about one of our players. I can’t recall seeing anywhere that anything has been agreed etc.. or that the players unhappy in anyway other than the frustration that ...
by Holtyclaret
Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Staring into the abyss, with some optimism…
Replies: 69
Views: 4948

Re: Staring into the abyss, with some optimism…

You can't say that with certainty because you don't know the individual player contractual conditions. Certain release clauses might come to light we don't even know about. None of us can really say anything with absolute certainty as we’re not privy to all the facts etc.. Some will leave, some wil...
by Holtyclaret
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Staring into the abyss, with some optimism…
Replies: 69
Views: 4948

Re: Staring into the abyss, with some optimism…

Oh I agree, get rid of all of them. They offer little return for their wages. I do disagree about the fire sale though, although I don't think we necessarily need to sell, we know that if we are offered a decent price then Pace will sell and that isn't to mention if players don't want to drop down ...
by Holtyclaret
Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Staring into the abyss, with some optimism…
Replies: 69
Views: 4948

Re: Staring into the abyss, with some optimism…

Weghorst never plays for us again, Twine isn't even starting for Hull, Bastien and Churlinov couldn't get more than 5 mins last season and Dara doesn't even start for St Johnstone. These are exactly the players we want to leave (decent but not right standard) with cork and jay (after great service)...
by Holtyclaret
Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: January wishlist
Replies: 201
Views: 16147

Re: January wishlist

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:42 pm
Could we do worse than bring back McNally?
He wouldn’t make our bench, better where he is gaining experience
by Holtyclaret
Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Away tickets
Replies: 5
Views: 988

Re: Away tickets

Mark the Claret wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:22 pm
One of our group has had to drop out of the trip to Villa, through illness, does anyone know if you can go into Villas ticket office and get a refund on his ticket?
Ask the ticket office, should be open.
by Holtyclaret
Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Could Benson and Zaroury be off ??
Replies: 93
Views: 10699

Re: Could Benson and Zaroury be off ??

Benson will certainly feature when fit and Zaroury will have his part to play, particularly in the absence of koleosho. As said both on long term deals and both will get opportunities when the times right. All our players have price tags and you’d imagine both these two are currently valued below wh...
by Holtyclaret
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 11 points after 19 games
Replies: 63
Views: 3748

Re: 11 points after 19 games

Goliath wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:06 pm
They have the added bonus of having one of the best strikers in the Premier League. I doubt that run of results happens if they didnt.
I’d say more of an in form striker than one of the best personally but we’d need a couple of players hitting a similar purple patch if we’re too survive.
by Holtyclaret
Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Foster staying here
Replies: 35
Views: 3558

Re: Foster staying here

He selected his words very carefully. I don't think he ever said what Fosters opinion was on it or if he wanted to go. I suspect Foster was being told from all parties he shouldn't go but he still wanted to be chosen hence him being in their original squad list. It looks like common sense has preva...
by Holtyclaret
Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Foster staying here
Replies: 35
Views: 3558

Re: Foster staying here

It was official two and half weeks ago and one and half weeks ago when vk told the presser twice.
by Holtyclaret
Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Puns: What's the UK's funniest business name?
Replies: 74
Views: 4543

Re: Puns: What's the UK's funniest business name?

Roger Rabbits - pet shop in Nuneaton
by Holtyclaret
Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 11 points after 19 games
Replies: 63
Views: 3748

Re: 11 points after 19 games

The following is Bournemouths form over the last 7 games. I think the two games prior were a win (against us?) and a loss.

It shows the sort of run we may need is possible, unlikely and extremely difficult but definitely possible UTC
by Holtyclaret
Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Nathan Tella
Replies: 30
Views: 7485

Re: Nathan Tella

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:58 pm
Was aware of that was wondering if anyone on here could clarify if he was there from the club commentary.
Yes Phil said he was there as Paces guest.
by Holtyclaret
Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Last seasons bottom 3 January transfers
Replies: 8
Views: 1063

Re: Last seasons bottom 3 January transfers

dougcollins wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:59 pm
We'll be getting a player from rovers?
They have a few good uns in the stables but I just meant in numbers and outlay.
by Holtyclaret
Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Last seasons bottom 3 January transfers
Replies: 8
Views: 1063

Re: Last seasons bottom 3 January transfers

I’d imagine similar to leicesters, it’ll be interesting for sure.
by Holtyclaret
Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Nathan Redmond
Replies: 122
Views: 8745

Re: Nathan Redmond

Yes why hasn’t vk been picking Redmond whilst he’s been injured? Hasn’t he only just returned to the bench in the last couple of weeks following an injury? Strange thread, like a few players I’m sure they’d feature more if they remained fit and like a few players they get better and better, almost g...
by Holtyclaret
Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Upgrade child ticket to adult
Replies: 8
Views: 1149

Re: Upgrade child ticket to adult

Usually in advance via telephone. Maybe call and they’ll e mail a new qr code.

Or I guess they’ll advise you if this current the case on the day.
by Holtyclaret
Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Maatsen
Replies: 47
Views: 10116

Re: Maatsen

bobinho wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:07 pm
More pressing areas than this.
Although it won’t be Maatsen we’ll sign, the fact we don’t have a left back this weekend because of a suspension shows that it is our most pressing area.

There are other gaps too of course.
by Holtyclaret
Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12774
Views: 1258201

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Where di you get the 20 * £7 million from...? Absolute fag packet math; 20 places in a group of minor investors . I’m taking the public takers in this investment group as jj and Dude Perfect. I have heard JJ invested between £6 and 9m, the most common figure I heard was £7m. 20 x £7m if all places ...
by Holtyclaret
Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12774
Views: 1258201

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

claretandy wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:52 am
You seen this Chester Perry?
That’s just my personal take on things, I’m in no way a financial wizz like some who have a far more knowledgeable take on things.
by Holtyclaret
Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dean Smith
Replies: 17
Views: 3846

Re: Dean Smith

Not any ex-claret but David Holt one my early heroes, in a team of heroes, as a child. Was watching him his Oldham days just the other day. He was very lucky through his career to play in particularly good teams at Bury, Oldham and Burnley. I’ve recently been reunited with his div three winning Bur...
by Holtyclaret
Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dean Smith
Replies: 17
Views: 3846

Re: Dean Smith

Impressive connections. Glad it was you who said we have no money problems now 🤞🏻 I’m the son of a former claret too not that I particularly have any links or connections with the club these days apart from my ST. My cousin Aron blazed his own path and was a v good schoolboy keeper but never made t...
by Holtyclaret
Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dean Smith
Replies: 17
Views: 3846

Re: Dean Smith

Westy is a man who appreciates a good cuppa. Always the trait of a gentleman. Let's be honest, everybody wants their daughter to marry Westy. Can you tell us what brand of tea Westy drinks? Pretty please. I’ll ask the question but I’m guessing it’ll be something like Lipton Breakfast tea over there!
by Holtyclaret
Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dean Smith
Replies: 17
Views: 3846

Re: Dean Smith

…. and my cousin is their gk coach, has regular brews with Westy!
by Holtyclaret
Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who is available and fit to play?
Replies: 29
Views: 5302

Re: Who is available and fit to play?

mkmel wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:20 pm
Has Benson actually played in any of the u21's recent games?
Didn’t think so but that was VK’s wording, think before wolves game.
by Holtyclaret
Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who is available and fit to play?
Replies: 29
Views: 5302

Re: Who is available and fit to play?

Last official word on Benson was that he’s building up his fitness with u21’s following injury so you’d imagine he’ll be back fully available before long.