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by thatdberight
Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: An UTC band or orchestra
Replies: 109
Views: 10063

Re: An UTC band or orchestra

Loser. I know what Band Camp is. Not impressed. First and last time I bother trying to do anything constructive in a community like this. Yeah yeah toys out of the pram, snowflake etc. Whatever, got enough on in my life. Bye. If possible mods please delete my account and all posts. As reasons for s...
by thatdberight
Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

Yes, I was forgetting about the deaths in care/nursing homes and in the community. But, really, more than 30% of the covid-19 tested positive deaths in hospitals? Were the ONS figures up to 3rd April so high? Could be 6,000 now (FT) or 7,500 (Telegraph) today. Whatever if is, on top of the 14,000 o...
by thatdberight
Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

From BBC: The World Health Organization (WHO) has cautioned countries against investing too much in antibody tests. A number of nations intend to purchase them in the hope of identifying who can return to work. However the WHO says there is "no evidence" that having had the virus would guarantee im...
by thatdberight
Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

Have I missed something, Lowbank? "We have already bust 20,000....?" Last I heard earlier today was that UK deaths (all regrettable) are somewhere around 14,500... I think we might be in the region of 20k - don't forget the non-hospital deaths which are only in the later ONS stats. Of all the nonse...
by thatdberight
Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

He had asked the BBC for the phone numbers of Burberry and Barbour - two companies which have become involved in making gowns - because he was concerned about supply shortages. What a strange way to go about getting their numbers. If I was going to the BBC it would be because I wanted publicity - n...
by thatdberight
Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wheres Boris...
Replies: 307
Views: 22210

Re: Wheres Boris...

tim_noone wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:22 pm
If social distancing is in place oki koki. I genuinely wondered where hed got to.
Clearly feet up and resting. Until he's better to come back to work properly that seems sensible.
by thatdberight
Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:23 pm
My best estimate was 20,000 to 40,000 deaths
To be honest your best estimate doesn't count for **** all because that's the sum of what you know that anybody else doesn't and how reliable you are.
by thatdberight
Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Norman Hunter RIP
Replies: 67
Views: 6033

Re: Norman Hunter RIP

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:09 pm
Disliking someone and wishing them dead are two very different things
This seems extraordinarily difficult for some posters to grasp.
by thatdberight
Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

She probably also biases her opinions by being Professor of Public Health at a top university. I already acknowledged her undoubted academic credentials. But if your left-wing tendencies are important enough to make your very short Twitter bio, I think it's reasonable to assume they inform your opi...
by thatdberight
Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

I take it that it is established beyond all possible doubt that the lockdown strategy, if and when coronavirus is settled, will have resulted in fewer deaths than any alternative. But where is the proof? It appears that approx 2,000 extra deaths last week over and above the average were not caused ...
by thatdberight
Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

We scientists said lock down. But UK politicians refused to listen https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/15/uk-government-coronavirus-science-who-advice Slightly twisted headline for effect (in a newspaper - who'd have thought it!); "Scientists like us" (one group of scientists) as quo...
by thatdberight
Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

It’s a well known fact that the U.K. is currently under reporting both cases and deaths as we don’t test everyone and only report hospital deaths. It’ll take a while to get to a better representation of the true figures. Why are we getting so snotty about the same being true in China? And cue the c...
by thatdberight
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

Hi Jakub, but the science says not; face masks don't stop the wearer breathing in air and they don't stop us breathing in infected air. In the countries where people have been wearing face masks for many years it's the people who are infected that wear the masks - to stop/limit them infecting other...
by thatdberight
Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

RingoMcCartney wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:19 am
Hope so. Long term, our over reliance on China needs to addressed going forward. A strategic reboot is required
in my view.
Genuine question. Are there any countries you would be happy to see us interdependent with?
by thatdberight
Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Phillip "look at me" Schofield
Replies: 55
Views: 4749

Re: Phillip "look at me" Schofield

Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:03 am
No that was Ben Fogle
Yes. Which again was (he says) something his 9-year-old daughter had suggested.

Seems more like the OP has got a bit of a thing about Phillip Schofield.
by thatdberight
Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

The media now in "full on" mode about wearing masks. I don't subscribe to any conspiracy theories about this virus but I'm sure governments of all kinds are watching just how supine their populations are and how they can be persuaded to do pretty much anything if they think it will eke out a bit lon...
by thatdberight
Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Phillip "look at me" Schofield
Replies: 55
Views: 4749

Re: Phillip "look at me" Schofield

Didn't he just retweet something someone else had suggested? Hardly like he's started a campaign.
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

Depends on the age of the child but I doubt many families are doing much more than an hour day. If families are out shopping together, then the likelihood is, they aren't following the rules. Back to the original point though; you seemed to think that this lockdown situation should become the norm ...
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

Oh **** he's back...
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

I'm sure someone said today would see a much more strict lockdown brought in. He'll be disappointed.
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

Lord Rothbury wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:39 pm
It appears around 70% of deaths in the UK are male and it seems for no known reason. Does this apply across Europe or is it just the UK?
Worldwide. Not sure about exact percentages but broadly, yes. Nobody's sure yet why as far as I've read.
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fruit and veg farmers face labour crunch
Replies: 92
Views: 7106

Re: Fruit and veg farmers face labour crunch

Spiral wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:13 pm
But you're still wrong!!!
I guess there's a first time for everything... :D
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fruit and veg farmers face labour crunch
Replies: 92
Views: 7106

Re: Fruit and veg farmers face labour crunch

Hence why I posted that the argument becomes one about the philosophy of law and the rights of one person or group or people to dominate another person or group of people. You lean in favour of dominating through force (stricter punishment), I lean more in favour of a community (a country) pooling ...
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fruit and veg farmers face labour crunch
Replies: 92
Views: 7106

Re: Fruit and veg farmers face labour crunch

Spiral wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:42 pm
My point is that desperation begets criminality, and so the argument 'let them starve' is utterly ridiculous.
So put in place a stricter penal code. For every "we need to be more liberal" argument, there's a simple counterpoint.
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

How many parents can afford to buy their kids swings and roundabouts ? Swings possibly but not both. "Swings and roundabouts". Stupid phrase. Either a swing or a roundabout is sufficient to make the analogy of no particular gain. Adding another mechanism that operates in a different plane simply co...
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fruit and veg farmers face labour crunch
Replies: 92
Views: 7106

Re: Fruit and veg farmers face labour crunch

jrgbfc wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:47 pm
There was never going to be enough people in this country willing to do that kind of work these days.
Then, assuming they're physically fit, they should be allowed to starve.
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

Wow You do come out with some absolute pearlers !! Have you got any young relatives who can confirm what a “whale of a time” they are having ? “Inventing stomach bugs” to dodge school - is your only experience with children been reading Just William books ? He really can't see that we're currently ...
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

Hahaha. Don’t know what else to do other than to laugh at that stupid post. Kids dread school? They can learn on PCs and tablets instead? What a load of absolute and utter garbage. Don't feed the troll. He's either winding people up or completely unhinged (personally - option #2 based on what I've ...
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52308783 "More than nine in 10 people dying with coronavirus have an underlying health condition, figures from the Office for National Statistics show. In 91% of cases the individuals had other health problems. The most common was heart disease, followed by dementia...
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: UK media & Lockdown
Replies: 166
Views: 13019

Re: UK media & Lockdown

Surprise nobody believed LoveCurryPies, returning to normal on 11 May, to me that still seems optimistic. Any lifting of restrictions will be very partial and gradual, and people aged over 70 years will probably find themselves asked to stay "isolated" until a vaccine is available. There will be no...
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: UK media & Lockdown
Replies: 166
Views: 13019

Re: UK media & Lockdown

jackmiggins wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:05 pm
Shall we look at it logically? We will all be subject to some degree of ‘lockdown’ until there is a globally available vaccine.
And if that doesn't happen? Perhaps we just have to get on with it.
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

jackmiggins wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:00 pm
As I also mentioned, perhaps this represents an ideal opportunity to re-think global banking, such that we drag it into a morally and ethically acceptable system?
It's already morally and ethically acceptable to me.
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

tim_noone wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:49 am
Matt Hancock I suggest doesn't know what happens next....apart from rising numbers.
Well, if they fall that would be a hell of a story.
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

It's not hiding under a rock, I'm not forcing you or anybody else to be a recluse, if you honestly think covid-19 will be the last bug about you've got another thing coming, with the way things are going they'll be more diseases & illness about, you either listen to nature or you don't, everytime y...
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

Companies going bust already and the accusations already starting that some companies closed unnecessarily and are claiming money that they aren’t entitled to and will be prosecuted if they have. This is definitely happening - I've seen it. Some of it will be actionable by employees in the aftermat...
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

To be fair, I don't think anybody suggested permanently. I could do 6 more weeks, easily. JakubClaret has repeatedly said he'd be OK indefinitely. There's nothing stopping him while the rest of us live rather than just exist. He seems to want to make hiding under a rock compulsory rather than his c...
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

Hi thatdberight, I'll put my hand up to linking to Wikipedia. You are correct that it includes debt restructurings as well as defaults. I don't see a difference in defaulting to lenders who aren't government linked and those that are state owned entities. When a sovereign entity defaults on it's ex...
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:42 am
No surprise I think France had extended there’s to 10th May and we were a few weeks behind them in terms of peak.
Prof Neil Ferguson today (16 April):
"Prof Ferguson said he believed the "daily number of infections peaked two weeks ago""
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Race across the world
Replies: 36
Views: 4874

Re: Race across the world

Don’t mind the blonde one. She left Robbie to do one task and he came back saying the taxi was $5 instead of $50. Then took him 5 mins to decide if he wrote it down or not. It’s hard to judge how people are only on this program. I can see why people think she puts him down a bit. I will stick up fo...
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Race across the world
Replies: 36
Views: 4874

Re: Race across the world

dandeclaret wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:52 pm
Jesus h Christ.... are you a massachist?
I love Boston in the fall.
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:42 am
No surprise I think France had extended there’s to 10th May and we were a few weeks behind them in terms of peak.
They changed measurement mid-stream so it's hard to tell when theirs was. We appear to have been at a peak / plateau of new cases for a few days.
by thatdberight
Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

Britain is on there for several defaults during the 19th Century. Was Britain not prosperous during the 19th Century? Just grabbing something off Wikipedia is often not sound (that article has no citations for the 19th century events). "United Kingdom 1749, 1822, 1834, 1888–89 (these restructurings...
by thatdberight
Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Race across the world
Replies: 36
Views: 4874

Re: Race across the world

Enty1974 wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:07 pm
Blond bird from reading wouldnt last 2 mins we me on this trip. Id leave her behind
It takes all sorts. If I had to take one of the contestants on holiday with me, it would be her.
by thatdberight
Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Race across the world
Replies: 36
Views: 4874

Re: Race across the world

BBC2 and BBC Iplayer Never much worth watchin on BBC but this s02 is quality I just wish the contestants weren't primed so much to bang on about their "story". If I hear the two blokes bang on one more time about how much closer they are now or the lad from Yorkshire that likes bullying his sister ...
by thatdberight
Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid compensation

What are your thoughts on middle income Argentina and their 8 defaults and how that has impacted their economic prosperity? Considering the opportunities it has, Argentina is in a very poor position. - vast natural resources in energy and agriculture - extraordinary fertile lands, gas and lithium r...
by thatdberight
Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid compensation

You’re quite right to highlight these historical precedents, none are a developed nation defaulting from a AA status... You can't see how the clear similarities between defaulting on debt to China in 2020 and the internal reforms of serfdom, debt and indenture among a few thousand Athenians in 600B...
by thatdberight
Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 5 minute lunchtime teaser
Replies: 29
Views: 1938

Re: 5 minute lunchtime teaser

Fenwick wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:34 pm
Not the original clubs?
Stoke is. Just a name change.
by thatdberight
Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 913789

Re: Covid-19

Some on here seem to believe that ‘it is, because it is’ - we couldn’t possibly change anything - it’s never been done before. I’d question their experience in life and wonder if they have any conception of evolution. Seems to me that they will always kowtow, so to speak. That’s not my perception a...
by thatdberight
Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 5 minute lunchtime teaser
Replies: 29
Views: 1938

Re: 5 minute lunchtime teaser

Funkydrummer wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:48 pm
Add another five minutes on :-

What do Stoke and Accrington have in common ?
Founder members of the FL / FL+EPL but not members throughout.
by thatdberight
Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jimmy Greaves in hospital
Replies: 35
Views: 3225

Re: Jimmy Greaves in hospital

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:47 pm
There’s been no suggestion as to what the problem is other than it not being COVID-19 related.
And that it wasn't another stroke
"Tottenham issued a statement last week saying their record goalscorer had not suffered another stroke, nor tested positive for the coronavirus." (The Guardian)