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- Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Newcastle
- Replies: 269
- Views: 16559
Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Newcastle
What an awful game.
- Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:13 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 202978
Re: General Election Is On
If this media teacup-based storm has any effect it will be to reinforce the idea that powerful people are desperate for Corbyn to be returned to the back benches and, as has been the case in the States for many a year, for a 'left-wing' candidate more amenable to the interest on a few hundred blokes...
- Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:02 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 202978
Re: General Election Is On
What's sad is that many of the Tory posters on here attacking Labour for anti-semitism are the same kind of people who would have taken a job at Auschwitz because it offered a good pension.
- Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:55 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Anti semetism
- Replies: 865
- Views: 63838
Re: Anti semetism
Rowls likes this issue because his side have been accused of being racists for decades and now, finally, he thinks, the tables have turned.
- Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:11 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 202978
Re: General Election Is On
Labour's spending plans will bring us up, proportionally, to the average in the rest of the EU and only slightly above Germany. Yes, Merkel's Germany, that bastion of pie-in-the-sky socialism.
- Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:22 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Clangers
- Replies: 20
- Views: 1780
Re: The Clangers
It was before my time too but they still had re-runs when I was little (a bit like how they still play Wallace & Gromit at Xmas). Loved it.
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- Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:13 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Hi Andrew, interesting post. I haven't read all the Guardian's article. Re this quote: "Back in 1980, labour’s share of the pie in developed countries stood at more than 61%, but it has been pretty much downhill all the way ever since. Income from employment as a share of gross domestic product is ...
- Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 202978
Re: General Election Is On
Tories at this stage of the 2017 election compared to now:AndyClaret wrote:First poll since the Brexit party announcement.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:24 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Facts About the NHS
- Replies: 91
- Views: 5596
Re: Facts About the NHS
Hi HBH, I disagree. I read what you posted. There's no evidence that supports the arguments made. I've direct experience of health system in Netherlands - I lived there for a time. The Dutch operate a better health care system than the NHS. Netherlands is predominantly a social-democracy society (I...
- Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Facts About the NHS
- Replies: 91
- Views: 5596
Re: Facts About the NHS
Hi iibyw, the thing is, if the situations you describe existed in the private sector their management would either (1) sort it out or (2) go bankrupt and be replaced by someone who could sort it out. Therein lies the problem with any state owned activities, if the state (tax payer) will always pay ...
- Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Facts About the NHS
- Replies: 91
- Views: 5596
Re: Facts About the NHS
A few clarifications based on the discussion so far: The argument here is not about how the NHS is funded. For-profit healthcare providers who are involved in the NHS get their money from the taxpayer. They are given that money because the Conservatives, like New Labour before them , believe that th...
- Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:45 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Facts About the NHS
- Replies: 91
- Views: 5596
Facts About the NHS
The Tories have been planning the privatisation of the health service for a long time. Here is a summary of a somewhat technical, but highly informative and well-research article, from the London Review of Books: 'In his report to the Conservative Party’s Economic Reconstruction Group in 1977, Nich...
- Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:48 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The folly of dialectics and perspectivism
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1246
Re: The folly of dialectics and perspectivism
The Folly of Perspectivism.jpg Nietzsche was an imbecile, but a clever one. He built a nihilist philosophy around perspectivism, arguing that because one could not see the world from anything other than a partial viewpoint, therefore truth does not exist. I'm beginning to think that these elites sp...
- Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:17 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Chelsea - Player Ratings
- Replies: 60
- Views: 10558
Re: Burnley v Chelsea - Player Ratings
Pope 6
Lowton 4
Tarkowski 4
Mee 6
Pieters 5
Hendrick 6
Westwood 6
Cork 6
McNeil 8
Rodriquez 7
Barnes 5
Vydra 5
Lowton 4
Tarkowski 4
Mee 6
Pieters 5
Hendrick 6
Westwood 6
Cork 6
McNeil 8
Rodriquez 7
Barnes 5
Vydra 5
- Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:33 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Classical Music
- Replies: 32
- Views: 1661
Classical Music
I think there are a fair few culture vultures on this board, proudly putting to bed the idea we're some hick town full of six-eared sister-shaggers. Lots of people seem to like music, but I was wondering whether anyone has ever dipped their toe in the orchestral pond. I mainly listen to it when I'm ...
- Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:24 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Blonde Witch
- Replies: 28
- Views: 3647
Re: Blonde Witch
Moorhouses right? Good brewery, but I prefer Pride of Pendle. I also like saying 'Pint of Pride please'; it makes me feel proud... of being from Pendle.
- Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:58 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 39 bodies found in lorry container in Essex
- Replies: 130
- Views: 7854
Re: 39 bodies found in lorry container in Essex
Frontex is the organisation in charge of policing the EU borders: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Border_and_Coast_Guard_Agency" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Tragedies like this will continue to happen, and will get even worse as climate change hits the global south. Prospero...
- Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:27 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Adam Smith said we only need one hand, but it's invisible.
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:31 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: BBC " Panorama " report on anti-semitic Labour ...
- Replies: 96
- Views: 6831
Re: BBC " Panorama " report on anti-semitic Labour ...
I don’t think there’s anything Corbyn could have done differently on this issue, other than reaffirm his commitment to anti racism, and stance against anti-semitism to the public, and speed up the process by which allegations are investigated within the party (which is what he did). Plenty of Jewis...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:50 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Anti semetism
- Replies: 865
- Views: 63838
Re: Anti semetism
I'm not politically active in the UK Heironymous because I don't live there. But yes, I am the kind of guy who is keen to "get involved" in causes I agree with. I always try not to be the kind of guy who turns a blind eye to things either. It's a balancing act at times but it's off topic. There's n...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:10 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: BBC " Panorama " report on anti-semitic Labour ...
- Replies: 96
- Views: 6831
Re: BBC " Panorama " report on anti-semitic Labour ...
You see that third sentence, Lancaster? The first two sentences aren't dependent on it. Whether or not you agree with the third sentence, the first two are logially independent. So you think Jeremy Corbyn shouldn't bother tackling anti-semitism? You just don't even catch yourself saying these thing...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:46 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Anti semetism
- Replies: 865
- Views: 63838
Re: Anti semetism
No probs. I already summarized at page 6 so I can re-post here. Not an exhaustive list, but you get the idea: Thanks Rowls. I think they pretty much want to gas or at least infertilize the inferior races. Really glad you've discovered this, are you organising any action or aware of anyone who is? K...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:31 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: BBC " Panorama " report on anti-semitic Labour ...
- Replies: 96
- Views: 6831
Re: BBC " Panorama " report on anti-semitic Labour ...
Reality is though mate, pretty much every Jewish MP has reported issues. I'm no Corbyn fan and I think he's useless and his failure to deal with this is one of the reasons I think he's useless. He has long held views that he won't change, and those views he has also has very wide support in people ...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:17 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Anti semetism
- Replies: 865
- Views: 63838
Re: Anti semetism
Bumping for the benefit of HieronymousBoschHobs Thank you Rowls for alerting me to this valuable resource. You are evidently a more experienced scholar of Labour's antisemitic tribulations than I: would you kindly summarise the findings of the 2019 UpTheClaret's Investigation? I'm aware it is an on...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:05 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: BBC " Panorama " report on anti-semitic Labour ...
- Replies: 96
- Views: 6831
Re: BBC " Panorama " report on anti-semitic Labour ...
Just to clarify here - The evidence that Jeremy Corbyn has associated with anti-semites is not circumstantial. It is clear and undeniable. Jeremy has associated with and supported anti-semitic groups for many years. The evidence that Jeremy Corbyn himself is anti-semitic is what is circumstantial, ...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:48 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
From a more personal perspective: if Johnson gets this deal through so be it. My position is that I don't want five more years of the Tories. Hardcore remainers talk about no deal being better than the deal with the EU we have at present, but that's all idealistic: we could be inside the EU with a h...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:42 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Although I hadn't considered which party may or may not benefit, I have always said that a GE before Brexit would be a bad idea as it would be decided on a single issue. I agree. Whether Corbyn really wants a GE before Brexit is resolved I do not know. Some rumours saying the party wants it resolve...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:20 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: BBC " Panorama " report on anti-semitic Labour ...
- Replies: 96
- Views: 6831
Re: BBC " Panorama " report on anti-semitic Labour ...
Final post from me I hope: You have inadvertently hit the nail on the head when you point out the strong opposition to all forms of racism on the left. It is this moral certainty (the left are better people as Turtle put it) that is part of the reason the problem has arisen. If you are a minority i...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:23 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Are they not going to come unstuck with this and be forced down the Benn Act route? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHBN15fXYAAVbk-?format=jpg&name=large As I understand it, there will be two customs arrangement in one territory (Schrodinger's Cat style): NI will be de jure (legally) in line with UK cu...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:04 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: El Camino
- Replies: 53
- Views: 5792
Re: El Camino
Dont worry its so dull that nowhere near enough happens to come close to tainting any good memories you may hold for BB Completely disagree (SPOILERS following in case anyone hasn't watched it yet) and I'm quite surprised by some of the reaction on here. I wasn't expecting much since I thought Bett...
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:04 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have i invented a word, and does it work?
- Replies: 49
- Views: 4342
Re: Have i invented a word, and does it work?
Just birds, beer and fast cars right, laaaaaaaaaadSteve1956 wrote:I suggest you get out more.
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:03 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have i invented a word, and does it work?
- Replies: 49
- Views: 4342
Re: Have i invented a word, and does it work?
There is already the word from German, “gestalt” which means this and is considered by some to be a naturalized English word. It’s also a school of psychology, which I know a lot about. This is a good word to use, and (relatively speaking) it's not all that uncommon. However... Guy on twitter asked...
- Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:22 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jay Rod v Wood v Barnes
- Replies: 89
- Views: 15501
Re: Jay Rod v Wood v Barnes
Depends who we're playing/where we're playing. Good to have a clear cut tactical option rather than a like-for-like swap. Our squad is strong but it's not massively varied - obviously that works for us because we have a smallish group compared to some clubs and Dyche tends to stick to the same syste...
- Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
THIS IS GREAT BANTER!RingoMcCartney wrote:Which idiot suggested "Labour aren't calling a GE because they're scared of losing!"
Labour aren't calling a GE because they're scared of winning!.......
- Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:06 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
All along most labour mps have wanted a second referendum as part of the 2/3rds or so of the whole of the HOC. That is the problem and why we need a GE. The extreme tory remainers won't be able to stand and the ex ones like Sourby and Wollastan. I want change mate. Sick to **** of this country and ...
- Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:19 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Do you really believe Labour aren't calling a GE because they're scared of losing then? Because they'll probably lose whatever the way things are looking.
- Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:17 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The New Labour Leader
- Replies: 221
- Views: 15785
Re: The New Labour Leader
The mandate is for Brexit. It isn't for Deal or No Deal. You're thinking about Noel Edmunds, yet again. Repeat until it gets through. Hi Rowls, Can you explain to your fellow posters the current ideology of the Conservative party? HINT: moaning about Brexit not being done yet or Labour being Marxis...
- Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:10 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
So labour are apparently now saying that there should not be an election for months and that there should be a new referemdum before a GE. So its not just about stopping no deal then is it? How can Labour square that with its existing manifesto and with its new conference policy? I'll field this on...
- Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:44 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Trump's Impeachment
- Replies: 328
- Views: 27912
Re: Trump's Corruption
Are there really people on this forum who don't think Trump is dodgy af?
(Edit: af means as ****)
(Edit: af means as ****)
- Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:01 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Wonderfully idealistic, guys, except you are both only thinking of the UK. It would be very easy to make the UK the "poor peoples' country" by putting a ceiling on wealth with your "no one can be a billionaire" ideals. Haven't you noticed we now have the internet? I'm sure some of us read the media...
- Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:40 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Trump's Impeachment
- Replies: 328
- Views: 27912
Re: Trump's Corruption
You have mistakenly assumed that the people who mocked me for talking about how corrupt Trump is don't already know and privately accept that i'm right. All they're really doing by defending the indefensible is signalling their unconditional loyalty to the far-right. They know he's corrupt. FCBurnl...
- Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:49 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
And one for the amateur (or professional!) accountants here about how the Tories have sold the student loan book to give the impression they are they are reducing government debt when the opposite is the case: https://www.lrb.co.uk/v41/n17/andrew-mcgettigan/fiscal-illusions" onclick="window.open(thi...
- Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:44 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Interesting article on Cummings' ideology and, by extension, the vision he's trying to get the Tories to enact: https://www.wired.co.uk/article/dominic-cummings-who-brexit-blog" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Certainly, when he was advising Give as a SPAD this is very much the way th...
- Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:36 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Oh yes, sorry, I got distracted with my tirade against Erasmus. It's not. It's a hopeless situation for the left now, I think. But if you're asking why I pursued it in the first place I've done it to death on here already. But in brief I maintain that socialism is basically impossible as a member o...
- Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:33 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
I also was a Labour Party member and campaigner. I and many many people I know cannot vote Labour whilst it run by Corbyn. He is going to get a shock at the next election. I understand why people dislike Corbyn, but he is more than one man and so is Johnson: look at the people around them, what the...
- Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:24 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
You ask "do you believe the extremely wealthy should just live here and not contribute?" Well, what if they don't live here? There are approx. 200 countries in the world to choose from. Maybe they weren't even born here. Maybe they like to live somewhere else. How much will you tax them if that is ...
- Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:57 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Way I see it, we can't ditch Corbyn because, right here, right now, we need a leader of the opposition and not the kind of in fighting which emerged at conference. But if Johnson gets through a hard Brexit AND a five year spell what the **** becomes of this country?
- Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:53 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
No dispute at all that Boris's support could drain to Brexit Party. Indeed, anything other than a hard Brexit and it almost certainly will - possibly dramatically so. The question is: would it go anywhere other than Brexit Party? For that you're looking at your classic free-market Tories: the adher...
- Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:42 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
I was a Labour Party member for 40 years and attended conference down at Bournemouth once. I've said many times, I never left the Labour Party, they left me. I know lots of friends and family who feel exactly the same way. Corbyn isnt a Socialist, he never has been, hes a Commie, and not even a thi...
- Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:10 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1181879
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
I should add, I'd accept May's deal with Labour deciding the future trajectory. The Conservatives are not toxic, they are radioactive: the fallout from their internal divisions has diffused across the country at large and now the mutant offspring are beginning to arise. I am being dramatic, but only...