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by martin_p
Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Clarets sign Muslim Athlete Charter
Replies: 150
Views: 9428

Re: Clarets sign Muslim Athlete Charter

What some aims to achieve or purports to aim to achieve isn't always the same thing. I really don't see the purpose of this charter given that religious beliefs are already protected in UK law. This thread demonstrates the unintended consequences - it's dividing people and potentially sharpening se...
by martin_p
Fri Sep 15, 2023 4:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: A quiz question inspired by the Paul Stewart thread
Replies: 17
Views: 1411

Re: A quiz question inspired by the Paul Stewart thread

Petersa wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:05 pm
Adrian Heath
Don’t think Heath scored in an FA Cup final. He’ll have a winners medal from ‘84 but fairly sure it was (non Burnley) Andy Gray that scored the goal.
by martin_p
Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Clarets sign Muslim Athlete Charter
Replies: 150
Views: 9428

Re: Clarets sign Muslim Athlete Charter

I don’t think i’m being pedantic at all, they’re two different things. You can not judge a person for following a religion and still disagree what they’re saying. At a very base level, being an atheist, I disagree with many things all religions say, the main one being the existence on a higher bein...
by martin_p
Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Clarets sign Muslim Athlete Charter
Replies: 150
Views: 9428

Re: Clarets sign Muslim Athlete Charter

I think you're being pedantic. If somebody is allowed to express something without judgement, it implies that it has to be accepted. I don’t think i’m being pedantic at all, they’re two different things. You can not judge a person for following a religion and still disagree what they’re saying. At ...
by martin_p
Fri Sep 15, 2023 1:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Clarets sign Muslim Athlete Charter
Replies: 150
Views: 9428

Re: Clarets sign Muslim Athlete Charter

I'm a bit dubious about the tenth article that says "Muslim athletes will be given space to express their views on their faith without judgement. As with all comments and views, Muslim athletes must whenever possible discuss any public statements in advance with the organisation." There are many as...
by martin_p
Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Matt Le Tissier
Replies: 222
Views: 11969

Re: Matt Le Tissier

Say that again and I’ll give you a chinese burn. You know chinese burns are called that because they were developed in a chinese lab and released into the world to be used on nerds who retaliated when they grew up by creating the technology that the state now uses to control us. All part of the mas...
by martin_p
Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Adidas Burnley
Replies: 19
Views: 3912

Re: Adidas Burnley

JohnMac wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:48 am
The fact they still look pristine shows how different things were when quality came before quantity. Being a 1950's born lad I think they are great!
People also tended to look after what they had a bit better, it was less of a throw away society.
by martin_p
Thu Sep 14, 2023 8:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Adidas Burnley
Replies: 19
Views: 3912

Re: Adidas Burnley

bfccrazy wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 8:13 am
They were only released as footy boots when I looked into em a bit ago - so someone has deffo resoled them.
Think they’re just missing the screw in studs rather than having been re-soled. Most decent boots had screw in studs back in the day.
by martin_p
Tue Sep 12, 2023 4:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Matt Le Tissier
Replies: 222
Views: 11969

Re: Matt Le Tissier

Sorry for having a job. I don’t watch any mainstream news channels, because they all peddle the same bullshit. And this pisstaking that goes on about gbnews is exactly the reason it was set up. There’s not just righties and there, there’s also lefties. And I follow various people on twitter, so I d...
by martin_p
Tue Sep 12, 2023 3:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Matt Le Tissier
Replies: 222
Views: 11969

Re: Matt Le Tissier

Make more money and have control from large corporations, Banks, Media and Drug companies. Do you honestly believe the Prime Minister is in charge? Bill Gates is now a leading voice in vaccines and drug administration... how did this happen, Why are we listening to him? It is almost as if he will f...
by martin_p
Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Can anyone remember the name of the old games workshop
Replies: 16
Views: 1839

Re: Can anyone remember the name of the old games workshop

Benn’s in Burnley and Cowgill’s in Clitheroe is where my entire Subbuteo collection came from in the late 70s/early 80s. Cowgill’s is still there but sadly no longer stocks Subbuteo.
by martin_p
Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610963

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Chelsea now just £7.2m short of having spent £1bn on transfers since Boehly took over. That’s just three transfer windows!
by martin_p
Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Culvert work starting
Replies: 249
Views: 31192

Re: Culvert work starting

claretandy wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:11 am
Widening the pavement at the Bob lord side has actually made less room for home fans to walk on before and after the games.🤦
????
by martin_p
Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton
Replies: 36
Views: 2867

Re: Everton

1-0 Doncaster
by martin_p
Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Entering the ground through the ‘wrong’ turnstile?
Replies: 5
Views: 1041

Re: Entering the ground through the ‘wrong’ turnstile?

I enter the ground through the same turnstile I’ve done since the stand opened. It’s not the one on my season ticket but if I didn’t use my regular turnstile we’d definitely lose!
by martin_p
Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Simon Jordan interview with Mike Dean
Replies: 24
Views: 2852

Re: Simon Jordan interview with Mike Dean

VAR needs scrapping full stop. I can accept referees making spur of the moment mistakes, they’re only human. But mistakes after the chance to analyse, the chance to consider the ‘implications’ of a decision, it’s all worse than the situation it was supposed to be helping IMO.
by martin_p
Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:35 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Indian moon landing.
Replies: 92
Views: 4578

Re: Indian moon landing.

Casper2 wrote:
Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:42 pm
There’s no supposed about it , still waiting for the film from the landing craft .
Look it up on YouTube, it’s there.
by martin_p
Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Favourite Signing Under Kompany
Replies: 42
Views: 3059

Re: Favourite Signing Under Kompany

Got to be Benson. He provides the moments we all go to football to see, the ones that get us off our feet.
by martin_p
Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton
Replies: 76
Views: 8901

Re: Everton

I’ve been saying this for three years. Everton need relegating to re-build. They have flirted with it too long and they absolutely need it. I’ve nothing against them at all but relegation may give them the kick up the arse they need as a club. It could also be the push over the edge of a precipice....
by martin_p
Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cancel culture, Queen's Greatest Hits
Replies: 22
Views: 1917

Re: Cancel culture, Queen's Greatest Hits

It does say that at Daily Mail online, not at the link I provided, which I assume is the one I was originally taken to. I did still make an error however, as that Brain May quote is from some time ago. This is the original link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12424449/We-woke-Classic...
by martin_p
Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England v Spain - World cup final
Replies: 275
Views: 10282

Re: England v Spain - World cup final

box_of_frogs wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:06 am
True
Sounds like they have.
by martin_p
Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England v Spain - World cup final
Replies: 275
Views: 10282

Re: England v Spain - World cup final

Commy wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:04 am
Had to go to ITV as I can't cope with the bloke jabbering on in a foreign language.
It is annoying, they need to sort it.
by martin_p
Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hooper ,and VAR ass dropped
Replies: 40
Views: 3280

Re: Hooper ,and VAR ass dropped

Apology and Ref dropped after Utd keeper wipes out Wolves player,what happened when Krull wiped out Vydra ? Sweet F___k All. The argument was the Krull had got the slightest of touches on the ball and therefore it wasn’t a foul. Replays showed it may have grazed his glove but there was no mention t...
by martin_p
Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610963

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Ziggy Stardust wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:34 am
I'm not sure Craig Dawson would come here to add experience to our bench when he's starting at OT. If we wanted experience on the bench Friday we would have put CT on it.
Think he’s busy enough running this website to be honest.
by martin_p
Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Key points from tonight’s game
Replies: 79
Views: 5252

Re: Key points from tonight’s game

First time I’ve come off a 3-0 defeat more confident about the season to come than I was before it.
by martin_p
Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We're going to win the league
Replies: 28
Views: 2712

Re: We're going to win the league

Let’s not forget, as things stand we’re ahead of City in the league!
by martin_p
Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610963

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Commy wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:58 pm
I thought Twine looked like he might be one of the surprises this season. Would be sorry to see him loaned out but the reports say he wants to go to Hull.
It’ll leave us to pick up the pieces next season with a player that has been to Hull and back.
by martin_p
Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Culvert work starting
Replies: 249
Views: 31192

Re: Culvert work starting

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:23 pm
Extremely disappointing that this hasn’t been sorted yet.

With the eyes of the globe on little old Burnley tonight and this is going to be the state of York street
They’ll just have to cut the sweeping vistas of Yorkshire Street they usually include in their coverage.
by martin_p
Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Echoing Clarettrappers views here, I am of the belief that a lot more of the doc could have been selling the club to neutrals, on our rich history and pedigree in the game, a lot less on Pace and co and their beliefs which were revisited numerous times. The only vie I’ve seen from a neutral thinks ...
by martin_p
Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

I like this passage and know exactly what you’re saying a bit in jest - I’d just say, its anything but blind faith, as we have demonstrable, falsifiable evidence that we actually did once used to be good and therefore it’s a fully rational viewpoint that we could once again be good, even when we we...
by martin_p
Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

It really isn’t, if your premise is that my view that suggesting a viewpoint of ‘god having a plan’ as being imposing a belief is also me imposing my ‘belief’ then you’re wrong. Infalsifiable views cannot be equated to falsifiable views at the debate table - because anything that I may claim has th...
by martin_p
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Wrong. Imposing a belief isn’t necessarily a forcing act, it can be an assumption that another person in conversation holds a similar belief system that the other person may not adhere to. So when you said it was the literal definition you were literally wrong as you’ve now conceded there can be mo...
by martin_p
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Watch episode 4 when Pace’s daughter is talking about the Dyche sacking/relegation/Kompany appointment. Invoking God to justify an action is the literal definition of ‘imposing a belief’ I’ve watched episode four and for a start she’s being misquoted on this thread. She doesn’t say letting Dyche go...
by martin_p
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:21 am
What nonsense am I imposing to justify my actions then COTC?

Your way of trying to point score without actually adding anything to the conversation is really boring. Trump esque
By your own standards just stating your view is ‘imposing nonsense’.
by martin_p
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

What a load of rubbish. Who's imposing anything on anybody. Why should anyone be ashamed of having faith, regardless of their religion. Why do you get so upset about something you don't believe in, none of it is affecting you unless you choose to let it. Live your life, and let others live theirs a...
by martin_p
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

In the conversation with John B before the sound is dipped and picture blurred Pace says with reference to who we now know is VK Mike is not keen on him (paraphrase). As he's talking to John B I'm guessing he's talking about Garlick. Glad Pace appears to be his own man. Also noted Spiral has a lot ...
by martin_p
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

If Manny Benson wants to go on live TV and say ‘God directed the ball in the top of the bastards net’ then not only would he be wrong it would also be severely underselling himself and his abilities that he has quite rightly worked so hard for. & I would also call him a lunatic for that. Basically ...
by martin_p
Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Episode four that and if they want to come out with that sort of crap and put it in the public space then I believe any and all criticism is absolutely fair game, for those upset at people who like to ‘aimed little digs at Pace and now it seems his family whenever an opportunity arise’ - COTC1882 W...
by martin_p
Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:27 am
Times gives it 4 stars. Looks like neutrals like it after all.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/miss ... -0g2263j33
Decent review, although as the reviewer says she grew up around Burnley and her late dad was an avid claret I think the term ‘neutral’ is a bit generous :D
by martin_p
Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:27 am
Times gives it 4 stars. Looks like neutrals like it after all.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/miss ... -0g2263j33
Is there a subscription free version of that link somewhere?
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

But at least you've climbed down from what you said a moment ago when you misrepresented what Rileybobs said. Do you wish to apologise for what you originally said? Also, demonstrate to me how a theme is not implied by the title and original trailer. Whether that theme is present is an altogether d...
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Spiral wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:02 pm
Haha, a theme (being implied) is not the same thing as a purpose. Those are two different concepts.
Yep and neither of them turned out to be true!
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

I didn’t say that was the ‘obvious purpose’ of the documentary. Ok then, obvious theme. I don’t think I’m jumping to any conclusions. The title of the film and the trailer quite obviously point to the film having a theme of faith/religion, and I can’t believe how many people are falling over themse...
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Only watched the first one - I expect it will be more enjoyable as the good times roll. Good watch though, probably not very engaging for non-Burnley fans but that doesn’t really bother me. As for those asking Spiral to apologise, what on earth does he have to apologise to anyone for? For implying ...
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610963

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Commy wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:33 pm
Looks like Burnley Express got it :)

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... on-4251303
Do we read anything into no one being assigned the 23 shirt?
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Spiral wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:34 pm
haha top banter haha you tell him martin
Or maybe he’s just in denial like you said we were.
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

burnmark wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:32 pm
Rooney?
Unfortunately it’s impossible to tell from the footage as it’s both bleeped and the mouth blurred to stop lip readers spreading the gossip. As someone else said one of the final three was ‘a bit too much like Sean’ and I think Wilder may be a good shout.
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Spiral wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:22 pm
Why are you being so rude?
He probably upset at being at the back of the long queue of people wanting to apologise and admit you’re right…… oh hang on!
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Spiral wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:18 pm
Why is everyone talking about the Mormon church? I've not watched it yet, but is there something to do with Mormonism in it?
You’ve seen the trailer, you should know!