No. Must not lose. They will only drop with another points deduction and if that was 3-4 points we are close.
The main thing is we are playing well, have some resilience, and have a chance, even if the odds are against us.
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- Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Six Points From Safety... Everton A Must Win?
- Replies: 37
- Views: 2358
- Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Wolves
- Replies: 338
- Views: 12157
Re: Burnley vs Wolves
So unlucky, the Wolves guy tried to do a Cruyff turn and tripped himself up and lost balance. Very poor reffing yet again, but our switching off on the stroke of half time has cost us many times.
- Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:32 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Referee confirmed for Everton game
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2327
Re: Referee confirmed for Everton game
Nottingham’s Coote on VAR predictably, given it is Forest we are trying to catch. Already shafted us this season. I know that there is some suggestion he is a County fan, but they shouldn’t be constantly giving us officials from our rivals cities. There are 20+ of them, why the heck do we get the sa...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Chelsea
- Replies: 102
- Views: 6344
Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Chelsea
Someone at the club should clip all the game chaining injustices that have cost us points this season, and send them to the Premier League and the PGMOL and ask them for their explanation as to how so many can happen to 1 club. You can only send a certain amount of megabytes on an email. Pretty sur...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:12 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: REPORT: Brilliant Burnley at the Bridge
- Replies: 21
- Views: 2287
Re: REPORT: Brilliant Burnley at the Bridge
Good report. Interestingly, regarding the “almost impossible” rebound chance for Jay, Understat gave it 0.51 expected goals (51% likely to score) and his header they gave as 3% likely.
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: PL Prediction League - All Fixtures and Updates - WEEK 31 PREDICTIONS
- Replies: 1680
- Views: 128944
Re: PL Prediction League - All Fixtures and Updates - WEEK 29 PREDI
Tuesday 2nd April Newcastle 2-1 Everton Forest 2-1 Fulham NAP Bournemouth 2-1 Palace Burnley 2-2 Wolves - Fofana 30th min West Ham 1-2 Spurs Wed 3rd April Arsenal 3-0 Luton Brentford 2-1 Brighton Man-City 2-1 Aston Villa Thursday 4th April Liverpool 4-0 Sheffield Utd Chelsea 1-1 Man-Utd Sat 6th Apri...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Everton
- Replies: 62
- Views: 6826
Re: Everton
Genuinely believe two things.
1. We win on Saturday, we stay up.
2. We would deserve to.
(don’t think we will win, but we have a good chance)
1. We win on Saturday, we stay up.
2. We would deserve to.
(don’t think we will win, but we have a good chance)
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wilson Odobert
- Replies: 39
- Views: 3704
Re: Wilson Odobert
Dwight is a 1-2 trick pony but he is super at those things and you can carve out a solid PL career doing that. Whether Wilson hits those heights with a different bag of talents remains to be seen. Great potential though and we were right to sign him, as with Koleosho.
- Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jay Rod
- Replies: 50
- Views: 3927
Re: Jay Rod
Didn’t escape me that all 4 subs have solid PL pedigree. Why we haven’t played Jay and JBG more surprises me.
- Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Clarets vs Chelsea Match Thread
- Replies: 611
- Views: 17442
Re: Clarets vs Chelsea Match Thread
Naivity can be a good thing. Trust me, I mean it as a compliment.
There clearly is, at minimum, a subconscious bias.
- Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Passport problems
- Replies: 86
- Views: 5053
Re: Passport problems
Well, I’ve picked up my passport this morning and after 300 miles on the road am about to fly and land to a Clarets win. But what a farce, Home Office told me the only reason slots opened up in Durham was due to a “technical error”. The civil service are indeed a farce, whatever your left or right v...
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Season tickets next season
- Replies: 839
- Views: 60147
Re: Season tickets next season
Apologies if already discussed, but I sit in between two pensioners in the BLS, and both when the subject of renewals has been discussed in the past say the same thing. “At £275 a season, we’d be daft to give up these seats, we can pick and choose our games”. They go to about half the matches. I’d ...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Passport problems
- Replies: 86
- Views: 5053
Re: Passport problems
You can't hang 52% of the population because you don't agree with their decision. That's not democracy. (Even hanging the 48% who voted the other way, albeit more democratic, wouldn't be appropriate for a modern western state.) Tempting though. Particularly with the likes of Casper above ;). Gosh, ...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Zeki Amdouni Shot Accuracy
- Replies: 49
- Views: 3818
Re: Zeki Amdouni Shot Accuracy
Back in August we signed a player who months before StatsBomb had described as the European Messi. Now a few on here pan him for workrate. OK, he hasn’t quite clicked as much as we would like, but his winger and striker partner have both been stuffed mid season, and we have lost confidence as a team...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:11 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Passport problems
- Replies: 86
- Views: 5053
Re: Passport problems
EU barstewards You are right. I’m still hunting furiously for a passport renewal appointment today so I can fly on Saturday, and there is a lot to slag off this government for. Such as, they have details of those of us with 10+ year old passports, so why not write to us, informing of this EU rule a...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:52 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Zeki Amdouni Shot Accuracy
- Replies: 49
- Views: 3818
Re: Zeki Amdouni Shot Accuracy
For those asking for a stat with more context. This shows that his shot placement is better than average (so it's not just a case of hitting shots right at the keeper) but that goalkeepers have overperformed against them. Could suggest that he's been unlucky not to score more. Thanks for adding mor...
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Passport problems
- Replies: 86
- Views: 5053
Re: Passport problems
I booked a non refundable £2k holiday yesterday, to leave on Saturday for the EU. Today, after seeing the BBC website, never having heard the 10 year rule, I checked my passport and despite having plenty of time left it was 10 years and 3 months since issue. I then checked the Urgent 1 Day passport ...
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Zeki Amdouni Shot Accuracy
- Replies: 49
- Views: 3818
Re: Zeki Amdouni Shot Accuracy
So if you bing all your shots straight at a keeper it'd be 100% accuracy. With such a small discrepancy in these I wouldn't read into it in anywhere near the way you are doing, and it's the wrong way to use statistics. If you are correct, and like very often with stats, I don’t feel you are, there ...
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Zeki Amdouni Shot Accuracy
- Replies: 49
- Views: 3818
Zeki Amdouni Shot Accuracy
4th highest in the Premier League at 52.5% on target, via The Other 14 account on Twitter X. Only bettered by Isak, Ferguson and Doucoure. Hasn’t scored enough of his 21 on target, but that will come. We’re lucky to have him. The names at the top of the list are all really good players. https://x.co...
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: PL Prediction League - All Fixtures and Updates - WEEK 31 PREDICTIONS
- Replies: 1680
- Views: 128944
Re: PL Prediction League - All Fixtures and Updates - WEEK 29 PREDICTIONS
Newcastle 3-1 West Ham
Bournemouth 0-1 Everton
Chelsea 3-1 Burnley Palmer 31st min
Nottingham Forest 2-1 Crystal Palace NAP
Sheffield United 1-1 Fulham
Spurs 3-0 Luton
Aston Villa 2-1 Wolves
Brentford 1-2 Man-Utd
Liverpool 2-0 Brighton
Man-City 2-1 Arsenal
Goals 28
Bournemouth 0-1 Everton
Chelsea 3-1 Burnley Palmer 31st min
Nottingham Forest 2-1 Crystal Palace NAP
Sheffield United 1-1 Fulham
Spurs 3-0 Luton
Aston Villa 2-1 Wolves
Brentford 1-2 Man-Utd
Liverpool 2-0 Brighton
Man-City 2-1 Arsenal
Goals 28
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - MAN UTD v BURNLEY
- Replies: 2535
- Views: 158060
Re: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - BURNLEY v BOURNEMOUTH
Chelsea 3 Burnley 1
Palmer 25 mins
NL2
Palmer 25 mins
NL2
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Season tickets next season
- Replies: 839
- Views: 60147
Re: Season tickets next season
Got to applaud the rise for the majority, working age adult tickets. Though I do sympathise with concession customers, the club clearly feel they don’t get enough for those seats and to be fair to them most other leisure activities don’t offer such levels of concessionary discounts, e.g. theatres. M...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Internationals 26-3-24
- Replies: 98
- Views: 5217
Re: Internationals 26-3-24
Wales hanging on a bit. Just cannot see it for them sadly. As for England, that mistake by Pickford was the equal of anything Trafford has done, and the mistake by Dunk the same in relation to our CBs (reminded me of Beyer vs Palace). You need real class to excel at this level including the EPL, som...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 11366
Re: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?
Not sure this is clever. Best case, 1-2 points added back. Worse case, 3-4 more points taken away. As it stands they should finish above Luton. Take more points away, it starts to become less likely. We could be kingmakers in the final game even if we are down, we may have to decide who we want down...
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Maatsen interview in Guardian
- Replies: 23
- Views: 4312
Re: Maatsen interview in Guardian
Good luck to him. Last summer I felt we were too ambitious in thinking that our manager would get some big hitters over the line, because that is what he did the year before, relative to the division. Trouble is, in the EPL that higher standard of player has many options. When we look at the ones wh...
- Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: James Trafford England call up
- Replies: 194
- Views: 12847
Re: James Trafford England call up
xG, xG differential and xG prevented/expected is good to look at for some trends - to try and use it as quantitive metric for deciding on goalkeepers ability with such small differences like that is a bit silly. The main football analytical advsiors such as DribLab tend to disagree. Also, when we l...
- Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: James Trafford England call up
- Replies: 194
- Views: 12847
Re: James Trafford England call up
Two crucial points: 1. Fantastic for James, warm congratulations, reflects well on Burnley, and shows how well regarded he is, including by me, even if I would have chosen Muric this season. I have no doubts he is the number 1 heir apparent, should be for us and for England. Ahead of Ramsdale in due...
- Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Weghorst
- Replies: 129
- Views: 8853
Re: Weghorst
Got to say I really appreciate the efforts he has made in two successive seasons to help his team out of a hole……
…..in a parallel universe somewhere.
…..in a parallel universe somewhere.
- Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Harry Kane statue
- Replies: 44
- Views: 2565
Re: Harry Kane statue
It looks more like Gascoigne than the guy who has never won anything and blew his chance to do it with England. And I’m thinking of the 60 year old Gazza with that grey beard.
- Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Muric back to fans’ acclaim
- Replies: 16
- Views: 1566
Re: ARTICLE: Muric back to fans’ acclaim
Glad he did well. I’m not questioning VK’s decision to make Trafford first choice, I’ve no doubt Trafford will become a top GK, but he did wait far too long to make a change in goal. Just as Muric was expected to bide his time, Trafford would also have accepted if he had been benched before. These ...
- Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Average Player Ratings
- Replies: 28
- Views: 1308
Re: Average Player Ratings
10 is Heaton at Old Trafford when we drew 0-0. Agreed. I would also argue Trafford at BHA was close. A 10 is when you walk away from a match knowing that keeper was never going to be beaten. But, I say again, Muric was excellent. Not match fit. Not match sharp. Pummelled by Toney. Exposed twice by ...
- Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Average Player Ratings
- Replies: 28
- Views: 1308
Re: Average Player Ratings
Interesting that ten posters gave Muric 10/10 on the ratings for the Brentford game. That's 'Out of this World' according to the guide there. Out of this World. Was Muric's performance really 'Out of this World'? A.9 is excellent and that is certainly a term I would use for it and the rating I gave...
- Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:22 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Average Player Ratings
- Replies: 28
- Views: 1308
Re: Average Player Ratings
As Colborn says, 4 of the top 6 have missed most of the season, and the games they played in we often lost so we can’t say it was apples and pears. We simply haven’t been able to get the right team out, partly by accident and partly by choice. It would be amusing if Muric gets in his 10 appearances ...
- Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Notts Forest: do you now have hope we will survive?
- Replies: 94
- Views: 6049
Re: Notts Forest: do you now have hope we will survive?
For me - this is the sliding doors moment. Had that goal stood, Forest were beaten. Foster would not had been sent off, and may not have had his subsequent issues and I'm certain he would have contributed to better performances following that game. We would ultimately have had a better start to the...
- Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Season tickets next season
- Replies: 839
- Views: 60147
Re: Season tickets next season
the BFC statement on it says different The Fan Advisory Board currently consists of 22 members, all members are season ticket holders. representing under 18s, 18-24s, 25-34s, 35-44s, 45 -54s, 55-64s & 65-75s. Amongst the members, some of the members also represent gender, disability, ethnicity, rel...
- Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Relegation Run-In
- Replies: 91
- Views: 9591
Re: Relegation Run-In
I hadn’t realised that while we play Forest, Liverpool will play Everton and could beat them at Goodison to win the league and relegate Everton at the same time. That would probably make it the best day in the club’s history, makes our achievement at Deadwood look second rate. It would also be very,...
- Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Relegation Run-In
- Replies: 91
- Views: 9591
Re: Relegation Run-In
So Everton's FFP breach penalty will be set lower because they've incurred one before; on that basis Everton can presumably now spend what they like as their next breach would incur a 0 points deduction and the one after that a two point addition. That logic would certainly mirror Everton fan’s sen...
- Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:38 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Club or country
- Replies: 59
- Views: 2441
Re: Club or country
The age old question of club or country is doing the rounds on twitter. Thought I'd see where people are at on here. 1) Would you rather Burnley stay up this season or England (or your alternative country) win the Euros this summer? Choose one. 2) Would you rather Burnley win the FA Cup next season...
- Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:34 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Independent Football Regulator
- Replies: 30
- Views: 1828
Re: Independent Football Regulator
Is it not illegal in other industries to trade at a loss year after year, why should football be any different? That isn’t always true though, if a country, who shall remain nameless but it begins with CH and ends in INA, has companies that deliberately undercut our domestic firms with “loss leader...
- Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:26 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Notts Forest: do you now have hope we will survive?
- Replies: 94
- Views: 6049
Re: Notts Forest: do you now have hope we will survive?
One point people need to remember about the disallowed goal against Forest back in September. There was 22 minutes played after the disallowed goal which was ample time for Forest to have scored an equalizer had the goal been allowed. The resulting kick-off instead of the offside free-kick would ch...
- Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:31 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Notts Forest: do you now have hope we will survive?
- Replies: 94
- Views: 6049
Re: Notts Forest: do you now have hope we will survive?
VAR gave the correct decision on Saturday - even Frank admitted it. What NewClaret refers to are the incidents where it was inexplicable to not get the decision (at least one we had a letter of apology for). When we get into things like West Ham H (Coufal), Villa A (Ramsay) and Bournemouth A I’ll ac...
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 11366
Re: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?
The whole point of these rules is so clubs with wealthy owners can’t blow others unfairly out of the water with director’s loans etc. As they are a bigger club with a bigger turnover than all of the bottom three, Forest (this season not last) are allowed to spend more in any event. So there should b...
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The pitchside screen
- Replies: 51
- Views: 3782
Re: The pitchside screen
I was sitting watching them review the offside laughing to myself hysterically. It was like they were trying everything they could to get our player offside so they didn't have to revert the refs decision on the penalty. If it was a closer call, no doubt it would have been given offside, even if on...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arijanet Muric
- Replies: 388
- Views: 18208
Re: Arijanet Muric
This will be my final say on this thread which I know almost all will scan through because of it's length (give a sh!t btw it's just observations of someone who played at a decent amateur level but the skill set of certain positions in a team remain relevant) Muric yesterday completed what are clas...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Greatest World XI to have played in the Premier League at Turf Moor
- Replies: 50
- Views: 2223
Re: Greatest World XI to have played in the Premier League at Turf Moor
Because he is not even the best Welsh left winger to come here, let alone the best left winger.ClaretsPadiham wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:20 pmHow’s the thread got this far and Ryan Giggs hadn’t been mentioned once ?
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s football 17/3
- Replies: 178
- Views: 4872
Re: Today’s football 17/3
Entertaining thread. 50 posts about football and 150 posts about a misguided attempt in society at large to remove all definitions of a woman / girl. Now we have no women of the match, gender neutral toilets, no safe spaces for women, no fair competition for women, no “she” allowed in emails in favo...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Greatest World XI to have played in the Premier League at Turf Moor
- Replies: 50
- Views: 2223
Re: Greatest World XI to have played in the Premier League at Turf Moor
—————————-Courtois——————————-
Walker——-Kompany——-T Silva——-Bale
Ronaldo——Lampard——Rodrigo—-De Bruyne
——————Rooney———Ibrahimovoch
Walker——-Kompany——-T Silva——-Bale
Ronaldo——Lampard——Rodrigo—-De Bruyne
——————Rooney———Ibrahimovoch
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 11366
Re: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?
Lovin' your optimism. Heart says I hope you're right, head says we'll fall short by whatever means. I think all our heads say that. We have left it too late. We kept playing some players whose form wasn’t good enough. But the chance is there. That’s key for us, players, fans, owners. To believe. An...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 11366
Re: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?
Not necessarily. Beat both and give them both a 6 point deduction, we finish above and relegate Everton and Forest, all other things being equal.
We can dream. And should.
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arijanet Muric
- Replies: 388
- Views: 18208
Re: Arijanet Muric
Muric is 6’4”, same as Pope- it shows. Not sure the relevance of pointing out that Muric is 2 inches shorter than Trafford. Anyway, Trafford is a decent but raw keeper, abused unfairly on here just because people want Muric, but Muric has stardust about him. Telling him (effectively) in the summer ...