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- by nil_desperandum
- Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: As bad as it gets
- Replies: 13
- Views: 2280
Boss Hogg wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:59 pm
We are not little old Burnley anymore. Far from it.
The gap between the Chelseas, Man Citys, Newcastles etc (with their billions) and a town team like Burnley has never been greater.
We won the Championship at a stroll but this is another league entirely.
- by nil_desperandum
- Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tonights footie
- Replies: 42
- Views: 4019
Rovers fans comment after last night's loss at Coventry. :lol: :lol: :lol: We talk about Liverpool Well all the headlines are about the VAR controversy but let's talk about a referee that comes from Burnley,disallowing a perfectly legal goal tonight. The very same referee who allowed their keeper t...
- by nil_desperandum
- Thu Oct 05, 2023 3:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Suing Everton ?
- Replies: 40
- Views: 6401
Mr England has already been booked in for the final day.... No chance. The guy is completely incompetent and doesn't appear to even know the rules. If he were on VAR for Everton's last game he could quite well unintentionally relegate them with one of his errors. Even if he were given a directive t...
- by nil_desperandum
- Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:51 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Luton v Burnley.Your verdict.
- Replies: 85
- Views: 7173
Not sure it's been mentioned, but this was Luton's first defeat in 16 matches at home in a midweek night fixture. Ok, the previous 15 were in a lower division, but I think it shows us that Kenilworth Rd is a very hostile place to go, particularly under the floodlights. We stood up pretty well defens...
- by nil_desperandum
- Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Loseton versus Mighty Clarets
- Replies: 627
- Views: 45977
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:34 pm
Going back to the game itself and the result, had this been a Championship game last season with both of us near the top I honestly don't think anyone would be moaning.
I think that's a reasonable comment. We'd have said a hard earned away victory against a tough team.
- by nil_desperandum
- Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Loseton versus Mighty Clarets
- Replies: 627
- Views: 45977
Sorry, I thought this mini conversation was instigated by a post suggesting we should hire Luton's set piece coach. No worries, and I'm sure we will improve throughout the season (with our own coaches :D ). It was, but I - perhaps wrongly, assumed it meant our set pieces, not our defending of them!!
- by nil_desperandum
- Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Loseton versus Mighty Clarets
- Replies: 627
- Views: 45977
So you can be 100% sure that Luton's set piece coach could sort our defence out with respect to corners and free-kicks? I thought that we were discussing Luton's delivery into the box compared to ours? Luton's delivery and movement were way superior to ours. With regards to defending set pieces, I'...
- by nil_desperandum
- Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Loseton versus Mighty Clarets
- Replies: 627
- Views: 45977
taio wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:06 pm
They are set up to be effective at set pieces. We aren't - our strengths are elsewhere.
No doubt, but currently our set pieces are poor. Surely you agree?
- by nil_desperandum
- Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Loseton versus Mighty Clarets
- Replies: 627
- Views: 45977
Swizzlestick wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:56 pm
How many goals did they score from their numerous set pieces tonight?
That's really not the point. They ought to have scored two or even three from set pieces, but their finishing isn't generally up to PL standard.
- by nil_desperandum
- Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Loseton versus Mighty Clarets
- Replies: 627
- Views: 45977
Nonayforever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:47 pm
We should be looking at signing Lutons set piece coach. He seems to have more idea than ours.
I bet he wouldn't allow Brownhill anywhere near them.
So many wasted opportunities from free-kicks and corners.
- by nil_desperandum
- Sun Oct 01, 2023 1:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Darren England
- Replies: 37
- Views: 3452
Seemingly England followed the VAR protocols by saying "Check complete" - (having mistakenly thought that the on-field ref had given the goal). No defence for England, but it would surely simplify things and avoid such errors if: 1. We could hear the conversation 2. As in other sports, the VAR offic...
- by nil_desperandum
- Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:47 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: MAATSEN
- Replies: 37
- Views: 4232
He had his chance to join us and preferred to stay at Chelsea Now Chelsea are going to shat on him Without knowing the ins and outs of this, it sounds like quite the opposite. Maatsen refused to move on deadline day. Chelsea therefore missed out on what was reported to be a big fee. If he is now re...
- by nil_desperandum
- Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Sycamore Gap Tree
- Replies: 124
- Views: 9025
HagridsHut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:30 pm
It’s just a tree
That's the whole point.
You can rebuild / replace an iconic building, structure, statue etc., but you can't rebuild a tree, and it will take centuries to regrow similar.
Vandalising /felling a healthy tree is one of the worst forms of vandalism. Irreparable, irreplaceable.
- by nil_desperandum
- Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:59 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: £100m Player
- Replies: 46
- Views: 5109
Has Kompany actually said that we will get £100 million for a player? I don't think so. Surely he is referring to future value, so it could be we sell player A to club B for £25 / 30 million, player A then moves from club B to C for say £50 million and then from club C to club D for £100 million. Th...
- by nil_desperandum
- Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Salford v Burnley - Player Ratings
- Replies: 62
- Views: 12186
I didn’t say you were but some posters on this thread have suggested that is his level. If either party thought that was a good outcome then why did it not happen ? As I said maybe the player and the manager thought that staying was the best outcome - given that’s what happened. Maybe the manager w...
- by nil_desperandum
- Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:59 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Salford v Burnley - Player Ratings
- Replies: 62
- Views: 12186
That’s still £750k a year. I don’t think the likes of Barrow, Crewe and the other types of team some people are suggesting are his level can afford to spend half their team budget on one player. As in many discussions on this board, there is an alternative middle ground. (We don't have to choose ex...
- by nil_desperandum
- Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Salford v Burnley - Player Ratings
- Replies: 62
- Views: 12186
If he is as bad as you are making out then that’s even more reason for him not to leave mid contract. Jay is on around £1.5m a year. Up until recently that was the salary cap in division 2 for each team !! So why should he have left in the summer ? Because a season long loan deal to a lower divisio...
- by nil_desperandum
- Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Hand ball
- Replies: 55
- Views: 5124
I know. He got the Berge decision wrong. But that’s my point, just because he got that wrong I wouldn’t want him to get every handball decision wrong - which some people oddly do. Yes, I understand your point, but if he's been told that he made the wrong decision against us, then surely he should h...
- by nil_desperandum
- Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: O’Shea / Vitinho
- Replies: 25
- Views: 3068
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:50 pm
Who would you replace on the bench?
Delcroix was the defensive option.
And based on his brief appearances so far Delcroix is ahead of O'Shea on merit.
- by nil_desperandum
- Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Hand ball
- Replies: 55
- Views: 5124
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:59 pm
But by the laws of the game it’s simply not handball.
But (IMO and most other people's) neither was Berge's, and yet it was the same guy on VAR. He should be permanently removed from this duty.
- by nil_desperandum
- Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Do you approve of these in-stadium messages?
- Replies: 42
- Views: 3423
Would you be okay with a sign on the wall in the cinema asking people to not talk or use their phone during the film? That would be a step in the right direction. I find some people's behaviour in the cinema to be very distracting and irritating..... and it's not just children and teenagers. A lot ...
- by nil_desperandum
- Sat Sep 23, 2023 6:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Todays Football
- Replies: 109
- Views: 5567
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:50 pm
and this is why nobody should ever listen to me when it comes to football
Martin won't last much longer though at Saints !
I reckon he's neck and neck with the Watford manager.
Watford board have been very patient so far!
- by nil_desperandum
- Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cracking point
- Replies: 29
- Views: 3974
Short version - gutted we didn’t win, and gutted that Foster’s petulance means we will miss him (and boy, will we) for three games. Delighted with the performance though. I really don't think that Foster would have been selected to play at Salford anyway, so effectively it's just two games, and he'...
- by nil_desperandum
- Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: RATE THE REF - Robert Jones v Nottingham Forest
- Replies: 41
- Views: 2939
Generally I thought the ref did fine. Sold an absolute pup by VAR but that isn't his fault. Foster incident isn't a penalty. Foster is never anywhere near the ball. Sorry, I strongly disagree. The rules say that a foul is a foul. The ball doesn't have to be near. Off the ball incidents are often pu...
- by nil_desperandum
- Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lyle Foster
- Replies: 39
- Views: 5954
claretspice wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:40 pm
Cos the ball went nowhere near them so it didn't impact on the game.
But when you're being held by the shirt you can't move into a space to receive the ball.
It's a foul and yellow card anywhere on the pitch.
- by nil_desperandum
- Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lyle Foster
- Replies: 39
- Views: 5954
If VAR can - correctly - give him a red card for the elbow, why can't it also give Burnley the penalty for Yates deliberately holing Foster's shirt inthe same incident?
- by nil_desperandum
- Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Team v Forest
- Replies: 105
- Views: 9272
Personally I'm desperate to see us not get opened up everytime the opposition attack, so I'd start like this and take it from here as the game develops: .......Trafford (purely because he's better with the high ball)... ................Al Dakhil............Beyer..........Delcroix............... Rob...
- by nil_desperandum
- Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:35 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Peacock-Farrell goes Danish
- Replies: 33
- Views: 4394
CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:22 pm
Better off just taking the goal?
Instead of playing most of the game with 10, reserve keeper and being suspended for 3 games.
I think that would be considered a "professional foul" and so a one game ban, but I guess it could be considered to be violent conduct, in which case 3.
- by nil_desperandum
- Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:21 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have Everton got away with their financial irregularities?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 7999
On the other hand, people at other clubs don't see our ban from signing players in April and May as a significant punishment! Well it actually wasn't significant because the window wasn't open. It assured however that we dealt promptly with the situation so that we could sign players as soon as the...
- by nil_desperandum
- Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lancashire League Cricket
- Replies: 256
- Views: 14157
The game was at Norden n/d and even though Darwen lost, they could still have gained 5 batting points which would have been enough for the title I believe. That game finished just after the Burnley game. Oops! I'd forgotten that it was at Norden but still pretty near. I've not got the exact timings...
- by nil_desperandum
- Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lancashire League Cricket
- Replies: 256
- Views: 14157
They must have been extremely confident Burnley were going to win ahead of Darwen ! Darwen lost early. After that result, Burnley only needed to pick up a no result or the odd bonus point, but looked like winning anyway, so it would have been logical to take the trophy to Lowerhouse as soon as Darw...
- by nil_desperandum
- Mon Sep 11, 2023 11:47 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mike Yarwood
- Replies: 22
- Views: 2758
(Of course, impressionists wouldn't do "blackface" any more, or caricature ethnic minorities - and rightly so.) You mean like John Bird doing Idi Amin Dada on TW3-why not? Yarwood had the Gannex coat and pipe for Wilson. Exactly, Yarwood worked at a time when a lot of the comedians mimicked ethnic ...
- by nil_desperandum
- Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:33 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mike Yarwood
- Replies: 22
- Views: 2758
The politicians loved hi.Wilson Heath Healey.Robin Day also thought highly of him.He did the voices perfectly,took the Mick and guess what, nobody was "offended" Have there been reports of modern day politicians being offended by some of our current excellent impressionists / mimics like John Culsh...
- by nil_desperandum
- Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Troy Deeney comment
- Replies: 19
- Views: 2925
Deeney says the people in question were on holiday in Dubai over the summer, hard to see that as too taxing for their mental health. I think we're addressing two separate issues here. What I'm referring to is players who "retire" in their early 30s (having been earning really big money) and then ha...
- by nil_desperandum
- Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Troy Deeney comment
- Replies: 19
- Views: 2925
Not sure what ego has got to do with it. If they don’t need the money why should they work? I presume those commenting otherwise would take a part time job at Tescos if they won the euro millions. Not trying to be contradictory, but I would have thought that a gradual descent and playing at a lower...
- by nil_desperandum
- Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: New date confirmed for Luton game
- Replies: 27
- Views: 3183
Would have preferred this in the New Year. I think we will get better and stronger as the season goes on, and (just like us) I think Luton may well see this as a (sort of) Cup tie, and their first chance to put some points on the board.
Hope I'm totally wrong, of course.
- by nil_desperandum
- Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:04 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cricket field stand
- Replies: 91
- Views: 8194
Same in Jimmy Mac lower,lost 8 1, West Brom,1969,stayed to the end,KEEP THE FAITH,beat by a better team,move on,We will bounce back,like We always do,UTC. If as I assume you are referring to 1967. The game was away at WBA, which is a bit different to a home game - in terms of leaving early. My main...
- by nil_desperandum
- Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lancashire League Cricket
- Replies: 256
- Views: 14157
FCBurnley wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:32 am
Imagine if Burnley FC had got a bonus point against Spurs for scoring a second goal and ONLY losing 5-2 instead of 5-1
That exactly what happens in some sports. e.g. Rugby.
(Not that you'd expect a bonus point for a 5-2 loss)
- by nil_desperandum
- Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lancashire League Cricket
- Replies: 256
- Views: 14157
Bonus points for losing can't be made to sound less ridiculous. How on earth can a league award bonuses for teams who lose? A losing team can come away with seven points in a game when a winning team on the same day can get just ten. I always thought the object of the game was to play to win. I agr...
- by nil_desperandum
- Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:02 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lancashire League Cricket
- Replies: 256
- Views: 14157
No idea how Darwen lost and yet got 5 batting points for scoring about 140 all out While Burnley scored 271/7 and got zero batting points !!!! Bedford got a ton for Burnley House are now fifth on 148 points for anybody who is interested There's no perfect system for allotting bonus points, but the ...