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by Newcastleclaret93
Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Did anyone else think we'd have more of the ball than we do?
Replies: 17
Views: 1588

Re: Did anyone else think we'd have more of the ball than we do?

I’ve been surprised how many long balls we have gone for.

Currently rank third in the league for the most long balls with an average of 58 a game.

For reference under Dyche we were averaging 68.
by Newcastleclaret93
Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

Steddyman wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:10 pm
Off to Hull

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/f ... ommunities
Off all of our wingers how is he the one that’s going 🤯🤯
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

That's obvious that's the common sense thing to do, if you are planning to sell something & want the highest price for it you need to demonstrate what they are about & allow them to showcase their talent & it stands to reason with more game time the likelihood of improvement thus guaranteeing maxim...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

That's obvious that's the common sense thing to do, if you are planning to sell something & want the highest price for it you need to demonstrate what they are about & allow them to showcase their talent & it stands to reason with more game time the likelihood of improvement thus guaranteeing maxim...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

You really think Kompany picks the team to get financial compensation down the road rather than winning the game? I doubt VK will get any financial gain. I suspect the clubs ethos is about trying to get as much money from player sales as possible and league position comes secondary. So the young la...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

I'm not sure how you can say that with such certainty given how few minutes Benson has played at this level. Just from what I have seen. It’s the same why I was saying last season that Foster will be good in the prem (even though his championship was poor). Benson has all the attributes to be succe...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

It's all supposition given how little he's played, although I don't think Benson would have had the same impact those two have. Just my opinion, of course. Tbf they have shown flashes of real talent and I think both will more than likely be better players. But I suspect there’s financial reasons as...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:59 pm
Interesting that you don't mention Koleosho or Odobert.
They have been decent but can’t say I think either are better than Benson.
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:26 pm
So you are suggesting that someone who thinks they know more about football on a message board than a professional manager isn't a plank ? Your classification of 'abuse' is pathetic. I suggest you add me to your foe list
Literally not one person has suggested that haha
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:56 pm
the guy with 4 Premier League titles, 2 FA Cups, 4 League Cups and 89 international caps thinks they are. Pretty sure he knows more about it than every single one of us on here
If that’s the barometer than Alex Ferguson must have been **** at picking a player
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Staring into the abyss, with some optimism…
Replies: 69
Views: 4930

Re: Staring into the abyss, with some optimism…

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:48 pm
Ultimately they’ll have no choice if there are no release clauses, so that remains to be seen. I’ll personally think we were daft if we signed players with release clauses.
I suspect there will be a fair few with similar deals to Weghorst
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

Well yes, which is why they are getting game time. With the possible exceptions, Redmond and JBL. Collectively the 5 players you have mentioned have 8 goal contributions in 67 Apps. None of them really been particularly impressive or shown anything to suggest there better than better than benson
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:10 pm
Because they are better players?
Really?
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Connor Bradley
Replies: 44
Views: 4725

Re: Connor Bradley

taio wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:03 pm
You changed your tune, unsurprisingly
How? I rate Trafford better than Muric. That doesn’t mean he hasn’t struggled to step up. I think everyone can admit that
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Connor Bradley
Replies: 44
Views: 4725

Re: Connor Bradley

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:04 pm
Is there a player out there that NC93 doesn’t know of?
Did I say I knew him?
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Connor Bradley
Replies: 44
Views: 4725

Re: Connor Bradley

taio wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:50 pm
Trafford
Yes Trafford has struggled to make the step up. He starting to come good now.

The last thing team needs is another project
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Connor Bradley
Replies: 44
Views: 4725

Re: Connor Bradley

He not another Flanagan at all ranked high on assists in a system that allowed him too he very good going forward handles the ball well and got better than better defensively he would be a massive upgrade on what we have That would be some step up from league 1 to regular right back in the premier ...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

Nori1958 wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:42 pm
What a load of rubbish.... Brilliant as it was, and not just at Ewood.. It does not guarantee a place in any future team, and certainly not at a higher level
We are not going to be a higher level though, we are playing championship football in 7 months. A league we Know Benson will destroy
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

Woonderbah wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:28 pm
Could this pave the way for a Tella loan with an option to buy ?
No Tella can’t play for another club this season
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:12 pm
the top teams are comfortably high end Championship level, to suggest otherwise is staggering.
Yes and the lower end teams are league 2 at best. The standard of the league is not the same level the championship. Pretty certain VK alluded that it was a step up when he came to Burnley.
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

Mickey mouse league ? There are some good players in Belgium. ZERO chance of us beating Barcelona I could take a one of result from practically any team in any league. Lincoln beat us when we were in the prem. does that mean the non league is better than the championship? Off course not. Belgium pr...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:04 pm
Well he did it in a better league than the Championship so it’s not unfathomable to think along those lines.
We aren’t seriously suggesting the Jupiter Pro league is better than the championship are we?
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:01 pm
No but the point is that money is already accounted for, wolves signed cunha on loan from a.Madrid and it was made perm after 1 game
I don’t believe the money will be accounted for until the permanent transfer goes through? That won’t be until the summer window
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

I can understand this if we are on 20 points and scoring, but we are on 11 points and 2nd lowest in chance creation and goals. So whatever we have been doing has been struggling to work. Benson has had 12 minutes since the Villa home game back in August. I’m amazed he hasn’t been on longer at the t...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

jdrobbo wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:49 pm
In this right here is our ‘Moneyball’ model. Fall in love with players at your peril: losing Benny for a decent profit might allow us to keep three or four of Koleosho, Zaroury, Odebert, Foster, Amdouni….
All of them players will leave.

Similar to Weghorst none will want championship football
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:46 pm
The perm deal was triggered after 5 games or something
Yes triggered for the end of the season? I don’t believe you can loan players for 10 games or whatever it was.
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

TopCat wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:36 pm
We’ve already bought Tresor.
No we haven’t he’s on a loan this season. We have an obligation to buy him in the summer
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

Nori1958 wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:20 pm
I Carnt believe what iam reading either

Our best player?
Him and Foster yes.

I was under the impression the only reason he wasn’t playing was because he was injured. That’s appears untrue.
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

I genuinely can’t believe it

This has got to be because of our finances I can’t think of any other reason we move him out in current position
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson to Southampton
Replies: 562
Views: 57195

Re: Benson to Southampton

I literally can’t believe what I am reading

Arguably our best player
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Where did it all go wrong?
Replies: 88
Views: 5323

Re: Where did it all go wrong?

JohnMac wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:23 pm
I think Brentford and Brighton make a good fist of it as a modern example.

I think it's the radical change we are undergoing that has fans having polar opposite thoughts.
Tbf neither of them are examples of the model we are following
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Where did it all go wrong?
Replies: 88
Views: 5323

Re: Where did it all go wrong?

It's only gone wrong if the Board think that's the case. Maybe they see the potential of the young crop of players as a better long term solution than having ageing experience with no resale value. Also older player 'demand' more money than young potential and not all are willing to go the extra ya...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany needs to stay
Replies: 103
Views: 6216

Re: Kompany needs to stay

I guess there’s nothing wrong with being a feeder club & continually flog them on at a profit but like you say it’s soul destroying if that’s the objective with no tangible benefit. The argument that we can get millions for them is all good & well if the money is reinvested if it isn’t what’s the p...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:37 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Staring into the abyss, with some optimism…
Replies: 69
Views: 4930

Re: Staring into the abyss, with some optimism…

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:33 am
I REALLY hope you’re right Vegas.
The thing Vegas doesn’t consider is will the players want championship football.

That’s a different kettle of fish
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany needs to stay
Replies: 103
Views: 6216

Re: Kompany needs to stay

Has Kompany not already developed these players in such a short space of time. We are in games a lot more now and he’s adapted our style of play from the start of the season A handful have developed yes, have they developed enough to stay up. No not even remotely close. A handful might be premier l...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany needs to stay
Replies: 103
Views: 6216

Re: Kompany needs to stay

Appreciate that and that’s probably a bit over the top but I don’t think he’s doing a bad job. Then again, I tend to believe that we have a 5 year plan, and that it’s one that isn’t dependent on us being in the Premier League every season. These things take time. Am I happy with how the season is g...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany needs to stay
Replies: 103
Views: 6216

Re: Kompany needs to stay

Not sure how any of the post you’ve quoted is ‘absolute rubbish’ Everything he has said is true. £100m is pittance in this league. Sure, Luton are currently doing better than us. But the season hasn’t finished yet and our development seems quite obvious in most areas to me. He’s saying he doesn’t b...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany needs to stay
Replies: 103
Views: 6216

Re: Kompany needs to stay

ignoring your snorting arrogance, yes, I totally believe in my comment. The world of football is irrelevant, VK was appointed to manage Burnley. We were promoted into a billionaire league, but football skill rules the day. his philosophy is at odds with the easy money of the city and arsenal elite,...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany needs to stay
Replies: 103
Views: 6216

Re: Kompany needs to stay

You were one saying what a tough league the Champ was and how we’d be mid table when we went down. Kompany signed a whole new squad and walked the league. He replaced a squad assembled by a manager you now highly rate despite slagging him to high heaven whilst he was here but also saying that the s...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Where did it all go wrong?
Replies: 88
Views: 5323

Re: Where did it all go wrong?

Elizabeth wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:11 pm
Nobody knew how the signings would pan out
To be fair, there were a hell of a lot of people questioning the transfer window.

The last day of the transfer window is littered with posts about not signing a LB, CM would result in a poor season.

Just go back and have a look
by Newcastleclaret93
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany needs to stay
Replies: 103
Views: 6216

Re: Kompany needs to stay

It should be crystal clear to all but dimwits that Kompany has it figured out. The team is improving as he said it would. Cant argue with his intent and commitment. Nobody around could come in and make it better. We are in transition, and his squad under his guidance will come good . No doubt about...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany needs to stay
Replies: 103
Views: 6216

Re: Kompany needs to stay

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:06 pm
Who thinks it’s an absolute certainty?

Nothing in football is.
Confidence is completely different.
The OP??
by Newcastleclaret93
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany needs to stay
Replies: 103
Views: 6216

Re: Kompany needs to stay

I understand why people want to keep VK but I just can’t get my head around why so many people are happy to get relegated and see promotion next year as an absolute certainty.
by Newcastleclaret93
Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: January wishlist
Replies: 201
Views: 16043

Re: January wishlist

We will only lose 2 or 3, Foster, Kolesho maybe Brownhill. There is enough quality left for that league. I suspect you’re underestimating how many will want away. One of Trafford or Muric will defo be gone. (Potentially both) Cork, Jay, JBG all likely to go. Odobert, Amdouni and Tresor will more th...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: January wishlist
Replies: 201
Views: 16043

Re: January wishlist

This is what I’ve been staggered by. Although we’d likely be one of the favourites, some posters are fine with the what we’ve done this season simply because “we’ll come back stronger”. Absolutely no guarantees as you say. We surrender our status at our peril. Totally agree That has baffled me all ...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonight’s reaction
Replies: 99
Views: 6479

Re: Tonight’s reaction

The most natural and obvious thing to think is that he is reacting as a fan would do. As for not seeing any other clubs investors reacting on social media how on earth would you have a clue who the investors are in other clubs ? Quite a lot of clubs have high profile investors nowadays, top of my h...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who are we catching?
Replies: 108
Views: 7177

Re: Who are we catching?

Yeah I keep hearing this about certain teams but it’s about the here and now. Mbuemo not back for another three months, Toney linked with Arsenal, Rico Henry out for the season. Take Henry and Mbeumo out that’s still another 6 first teamers coming back soon. Haven’t the club indicated Toney is goin...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonight’s reaction
Replies: 99
Views: 6479

Re: Tonight’s reaction

If that’s really the first thing you thought then you really have no idea about JJ Watt as a person or any clue about his investment in the club. What else are you supposed to think? This isn’t a dig I have just never ever seen another clubs investor publicly complain about a referees decisions on ...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonight’s reaction
Replies: 99
Views: 6479

Re: Tonight’s reaction

Surely JJ Watt is an intelligent enough bloke to understand that investing in a club like Burnley or really any club in England apart from top 6 that there’s a chance of relegation when you invest. The club has 12 months without tv money, but as investors they still have sellable assets True but fo...
by Newcastleclaret93
Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonight’s reaction
Replies: 99
Views: 6479

Re: Tonight’s reaction

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:50 pm
Mine was that he was reacting like a passionate fan...
Potentially but can’t say I’ve seen any other clubs investors calling out refs on social media