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- Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:34 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Unpopular opinions
- Replies: 126
- Views: 5862
Re: Unpopular opinions
I didn't make any references towards either type of football. That was you, not me. I simply stated the obvious, that it's harder to recruit players that have the qualities to play in our system than it is with Lutons. I mean you kinda did by referring to their 'brand' of football which is attempti...
- Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:11 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Directors box
- Replies: 92
- Views: 6063
Re: Directors box
What is in no doubt is that the Sean Dyche “train as you play” ethos delivered more than the sum of the parts. To be fair to Kompany though, he seems relaxed about dress code in training and approaching the ground, but his players probably put more hours in than under any previous manager, and trai...
- Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:40 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: adeola friday
- Replies: 34246
- Views: 2027978
Re: adeola friday
Holsters
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Unpopular opinions
- Replies: 126
- Views: 5862
Re: Unpopular opinions
Those pointing out Lutons relative success are missing the point I made in the OP. Playing the brand of football they do it is easier to have more success with a lower pedigree of players. It's a lot harder to recruit players who have grit, determination and endeavor who also are strong technically...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:46 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Unpopular opinions
- Replies: 126
- Views: 5862
Re: Unpopular opinions
If their max ability gets them one place above us, with probably the same end result come May, then they are not that much better, are they? They were never meant to be - that's the point. They were in League One three years ago and play in a 11K capacity tinshed filled with a team (Barkley,Lokonga...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:09 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Unpopular opinions
- Replies: 126
- Views: 5862
Re: Unpopular opinions
The team is a disjointed mess with a total lack of belief and unity.
Edwards has Luton performing to their max ability; can you say the same about Vincent here?... because ultimately, that's what the job of the manager is.
Edwards has Luton performing to their max ability; can you say the same about Vincent here?... because ultimately, that's what the job of the manager is.
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany quote
- Replies: 161
- Views: 7313
Re: Kompany quote
There is absolutely no way you can say VK is suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect lol Although he may have limited managerial experience, he’s certainly had success and he doesn’t overestimate his abilities or state he is better than his peers with more and experience…. In fact he’s stated on m...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany quote
- Replies: 161
- Views: 7313
Re: Kompany quote
OK. I'm pretty sure that Dunning-Kruger is not the way to look at Vincent Kompany's knowledge and experience as either a top footballer or as a Championship winning manager and entering his first experience in the Premier League. Why's that? I thought the approach to the seaosn was wrong and they s...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany quote
- Replies: 161
- Views: 7313
Re: Kompany quote
Yeah, I can go with that; don't think they're fully past the trough mind, maybe just slowly realising that they're there...Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:30 pmso if they've got past the trough it makes even less sense pot him surely as some are asking for?
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany quote
- Replies: 161
- Views: 7313
Re: Kompany quote
Hi CC, I was going to ask you yesterday when you first used the phrase, what is "peak dunning-kruger?" You do know that you are pointing to a trough in the chart you've copied and pasted. Hi Paul Yes, the trough I was pointing to was alluding to the point i was making in reply to a comment in this ...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 7936
Re: Mud analytics
As I said, maybe we can find some things that we can all agree with. UTC Don't disagree with any of that; I'm more concerned/wondering if there 'novel plan' of trying to solely buy low/sell high on players was an attempt to have financial success even without necessarily having footballing success ...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 7936
Re: Mud analytics
The more I think about it, and cast my mind back to the MTB documentary, the more I think we are reliant on selling a couple of players for very good money every season. This summer’s windfall is looking doubtful - not helped by an injury to Koleosho. It could well be why Kompany has persisted with...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 7936
Re: Mud analytics
Easy We’ve signed a number of young players with huge potential who’ve now got PL experience, which will stand them in good stead for the future Potential suitors won’t be overly fussed about the outcome of our season, they’ll be looking at the stats etc of the players they’re interested in buying ...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany quote
- Replies: 161
- Views: 7313
Re: Kompany quote
I honestly believe he has made the comment referring to the massive change of a winning team. He was quoted he works best on high turnover and now he’s realised it doesn’t always work that way. He’s young and no matter how good you are, there is always a learning curve. It's interesting actually......
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 7936
Re: Mud analytics
Not sure how you reconcile your two points there.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:13 pmNo alk koolaid at all, that’s a stupid comment
Yes we signed a lot last summer and history suggested it was high risk and quite probably wouldn’t work
Long term it will pay off
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 7936
Re: Mud analytics
The club needs to be able to buy low and sell high to ensure the club is more sustainable and not reliant on mainly Tv money like it was in the past A majority of clubs want to do this btw, find cheap, develop and sell on A number of people on here seem to take issue with this business model, but t...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany quote
- Replies: 161
- Views: 7313
Re: Kompany quote
Given Vincent Kompany used to be City's captain and had a long successful relationship with City. Given that Lee Mooney was City's Head of Data Insights and Decisions Technology since 2015, don't you think that between the two of them they had both direct knowledge as well as the contacts to find o...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:18 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The objective for the rest of the season
- Replies: 86
- Views: 4734
Re: The objective for the rest of the season
'El Crapico' on the 20th April is the game. Must not lose.Poulton-le-Claret wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:16 amWin a few games and not to finish below Sheff Utd. That's how low the bar is.
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:09 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The objective for the rest of the season
- Replies: 86
- Views: 4734
Re: The objective for the rest of the season
If we do reach 20 points I’m really looking forward to the new thread and special graphics of the “6 worst sides in Premier League History”. The worst 5 league sides is a topic that has been discussed a lot. There’s endless debates on sky sports about this and I believe Netflix are making a blockbu...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:27 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tonight’s Football
- Replies: 180
- Views: 4177
Re: Blades v Gunners
The gulf just gets wider. The level of players in the PL just goes up and up. It’s certainly becoming much harder for teams like us/sheff u etc to compete. Luton have done well but won’t survive. As much as I’d like us to compete in the PL it’s not going to happen unless some rich individual/ compa...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:35 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: REPORT: Yet another home defeat for the Clarets
- Replies: 35
- Views: 2534
Re: REPORT: Yet another home defeat for the Claret
Good Report, it mentions “ O’Shea somehow managed to let Justin Kluivert get onto it and he made absolutely no mistake in firing past James Trafford.” From where I was it looked like Esteve was at fault and made no effort to go for the ball from which O’Shea had to try and cover his mistake. Esteve...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 7936
Re: Mud analytics
I mean..123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:30 pmDon’t see anyone raising their concerns about conflict of interest in that wider discussion, especially Rileybobs who feels so strongly about it
I quite literally did that in that thread.
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 7936
Re: Mud analytics
As for no previous thread… I found out about it today. This morning. So that’s why I’ve not started a thread before this. Hope that clears up your confusion about a few things . Exactly, it's hardly widespread. Infact, it's the sort of thing if you mentioned it to the average fan they'd think you w...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 7936
Re: Mud analytics
Now it’s getting interesting, worrying really. Can we sack kompanys company and still retain him as manager?? 😅 Wouldn't go on at any other club imo. I really do believe VK has got significant control that isn't afforded to other managers and the cynic in me suggests he got more upon signing his ne...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 7936
Re: Mud analytics
I mean no disrespect to Chester here but if I remember rightly it was first brought up as part of finance discussions or somthing similar and I think it was easily missed as part of a wider discussion as opposed to people not caring. I think it's had one or two mentions since then but it's normally...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 7936
Re: Mud analytics
I think Chester said very few cared- not nobody. It's been mentioned on here before and I showed some concern as did some others. Ultimately its not like loads of people are showing concern now either, I think it's fair to say that the kind of people who do care about this will care no matter how t...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Martin Ødegaard
- Replies: 42
- Views: 3348
Re: Martin Ødegaard
NoooooNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:33 pmTotally agree.
As a side note Englands front four right now is arguably our best in a very very long time.
Saka, Bellingham, Foden
Kane
---------Rice
----Foden-Bellingham
Saka-----Kane-----?
^ Have to have them in a 4-3-3.
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tonight’s Football
- Replies: 180
- Views: 4177
Re: Tonight’s Football
Worth noting that Sheff United literally lost their two best players to start the season and were in a bit of turmoil... One of them to us who's arguably been our player of the season
20th April is going to be an all timer.
20th April is going to be an all timer.
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tonight’s Football
- Replies: 180
- Views: 4177
Re: Tonight’s Football
Yet Fulham turned them over, who we've beaten!!!Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:24 pmagree but to be fair they also put 4 passed Newcastle last week ! When the top teams click not many can live with them
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tonight’s Football
- Replies: 180
- Views: 4177
Re: Tonight’s Football
More annoyed that I have to turn my TV saturation down when he's playing...Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:13 pmanyone else have an irrational dislike of Ben White ? I've no idea why but I just don't like him
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tonight’s Football
- Replies: 180
- Views: 4177
Re: Blades v Gunners
We play them at Bramall Lane on the 20th April which I think will decide the 19th/20th spot.Carlos the Great wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:08 pmSo there is possibly a worse team than us in this league
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 7936
Re: Mud analytics
We have failed this season but now because it’s failing people have an issue that it might be a company owned by kompany, we don’t know that it’s true. You have just agreed that had it not failed this season nobody would have discussed it which is a point I was making No, I didn't agree to that. I ...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 7936
Re: Mud analytics
‘Some are saying’ without anything to back it up. It’s fair to mention league position because as I have just said there would be no talk about any of this if things were going well But they aren't, in fact, it's not just 'not going well', it's actually completely failing. So then you can either di...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 27443
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Yes, sorry I wasn’t really suggesting otherwise. More making the point that being in the PFA champ team of the season doesn’t necessarily make you the best in said position, and definitely doesn’t mean you are good enough to make the step up to the PL as Brownhill and Roberts have proven. In fact, ...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 659
- Views: 61729
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Nowhere near virtually the same hahaha But you are right can’t judge benson on the 10 minutes he had but it’s true that in the premier league he will never have as much space as he did in the championship ...which is why I'm judging him off his impact when playing PL opposition, albeit in a Cup. Yo...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 7936
Re: Mud analytics
How does persisting with an out of form player help earn kompany commission. Just find it strange for anyone to suggest that any signing made wasn’t made for the best interests of Burnley. The same recruitment system used last summer didn’t have anyone questioning it but this season because it’s go...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 27443
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Yes and the same would apply there - if we have two players in their respective positions that do not perform to their levels that they did last season it would be a strange position to be in.
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 659
- Views: 61729
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Completely different set up, new manager, new style of play and I think you’ll find 4 of Bournemouths starting 11 2 defenders and 2 midfielders aren’t at Bournemouth at the minute. They also didn’t have Semenyo, kluivert and tavernier playing. Neto wasn’t in goal either. Think it’s fair to say 2 co...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 27443
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
If we’re all agreed Muric was very, very good at Championship level (as per his goalkeeper of the season award etc) and that he will meet the requirements of us playing out from the back when we should have 60/ 70% of the ball every game - would it be even more outrageous to start Trafford next sea...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 659
- Views: 61729
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Bournemouths midfield/defence was virtually the same.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:12 pm2 completely different teams to the cup game last season
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 659
- Views: 61729
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Found it a bit ironic when Benson was being discussed as "not even being able to do it against this poor Bournemouth side" when he bagged two in the Cup against them last year.
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Amdouni
- Replies: 142
- Views: 7729
Re: Amdouni
I'm sure the MUD boys found some perfect data point to justify his signing.expoultryboy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:49 pmBack again about this lazy specimen . I agree totally with you Vegas , he really doesn't give a toss about playing for us . I just don't understand why Kompany brought him on first .
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What must Vigeroux be thinking ??
- Replies: 21
- Views: 2165
Re: What must Vigeroux be thinking ??
'Tripled my wages, don't even have to play a game or show up on matchdays - life is good.'
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 7936
Re: Mud analytics
Clear conflict of interest and I don't think would be allowed at any other club and highlights the inexperience in (british) football throughout our club. Another area of the club that has been leaned out - now what happens if the manager is performing extremely poorly or has an offer to go elsewher...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Bournemouth - Player Ratings
- Replies: 86
- Views: 4880
Re: Burnley v Bournemouth - Player Ratings
Not sure about 3/5 at the back except against the better sides but something I've done to death on here is that I don't understand our refusal to try 433. That defensive core, two fullbacks who can push up probably Taylor and Roberts, midfield 3 of Berge, a runner, a playmaker (any 2 of Cullen, Bro...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The next Nathan Tella
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3717
Re: The next Nathan Tella
To be honest I think it's a fair framing. In the summer I felt the quoted price for Tella was too much at the time- two months into the season I felt very different given what we've paid for others BUT the point remains that his best run of goals was a condensed purple patch against poor teams, and...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:02 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The objective for the rest of the season
- Replies: 86
- Views: 4734
Re: The objective for the rest of the season
What material difference will it have to next season if we finish on 13, 17, 20, 25 points? The seasons done and has been for months. Massive imo - absolutely need to end the season on somewhat of a 'high'. Don't want the hangover running into next season. Show the fans and greater football world s...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:53 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The next Nathan Tella
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3717
Re: The next Nathan Tella
I understand your point but I think that’s hard to say having not seen these players play in a team that dominates the ball and creates a lot of chances. Or playing against much lower opposition where everything is a second or two slower. Take Tella, he was great for us but he scored 10 of his goal...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:09 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Squad for next season, STAY OR GO
- Replies: 53
- Views: 3168
Re: Squad for next season, STAY OR GO
———————————Muric Roberts——-O’Shea——-Beyer———New ——————————-Cullen ———————-Berge——Brownhill ——-Benson———-Foster———Koleosho Trafford, Vitinho, Esteve, Massengo, Gudmundsson, Zaroury, Redmond, Mellon, New Striker For all of the hyperbole about how bad this team is, that side gets automatically promote...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:03 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jumping ship at the end of the season
- Replies: 56
- Views: 5132
Re: Jumping ship at the end of the season
'what it means to play for Burnley" This is professional sport, unless you are someone local where it might feel a bit special, or you've spent a long time at the club where you've developed a connection with the fans most players don't give one iota of a toss where they play, they'll go to whoever...