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by boatshed bill
Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

The last two goals we have conceded are down to Muric's lack of concentration, nothing else.
For all the weak performances we've seen from Trafford I really don't think he'd have messed up as Muric has in these last 2 games
by boatshed bill
Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Appalling Abuse Directed at Jay.
Replies: 56
Views: 4368

Re: Appalling Abuse Directed at Jay.

I thought it was all about his name: Jay calling him Pong?
by boatshed bill
Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Striker, Left Back, Defensive Midfielder
Replies: 53
Views: 2534

Re: Striker, Left Back, Defensive Midfielder

CoolClaret wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:02 am
For what reason?

I think it would be good to take Trafford out of the firing line. I also think it would help his development.
Muric would start as No1.
Cooper is excellent, and would provide a serious challenge to Muric.
by boatshed bill
Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Striker, Left Back, Defensive Midfielder
Replies: 53
Views: 2534

Re: Striker, Left Back, Defensive Midfielder

CoolClaret wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:36 am
Just no.

Especially not for the Champ seen as we had the best one in the division last time that is... still on our books.

If I was in charge :o

I'd try to get Trafford a season loan in Europe.
I'd also be keen on Cooper from Plymouth
by boatshed bill
Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We need to talk about Foster
Replies: 85
Views: 4407

Re: We need to talk about Foster

Goliath wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:23 pm
Barnes was injured. Foster isn't as far as I'm aware.

Yes, that is correct, but those giving AB stick didn't know it at the time.
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We need to talk about Foster
Replies: 85
Views: 4407

Re: We need to talk about Foster

Goliath wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:56 pm

There's certain things that he has the ability to control, his fitness being the main one and at the moment he isn't anywhere near fit enough to play Premier League football which to me says a lot.

Do you not remember the stick Ashley Barnes got when playing despite being not fully fit?
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:56 pm
From my memory muric made 2 good saves from headers and the static defending led to the follow ups going in

From memory Sheff Utd bullied our entire defence.
This season we totally outplayed them, let's hope we do it again.
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:49 pm
Ben Wilson
Who did he play for? Is it for the most clean sheets? Seriously, I don't follow awards very closely.
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:48 pm
Who won what?

The Golden Glove, of course :D
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:46 pm
Our last keeper played CL this season?

But not for us. I'm saying "can we expect"?
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

At 25 Alisson had 1 year of premier league football. 1 years of seria A football and 2 seasons of champions league football. 2 international tournaments with Brazil. Ederson had a premier league winners medal, 2 seasons of champions league football, a title with benfica and featured in two internat...
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

I’m personally of the opinion neither are great at the moment, (defo not top level). But I suspect Trafford will go on to have a better career. He’s already ahead of Muric. I’m pretty certain neither will end up playing regular champions league football unless at some crap team like Celtic. For onc...
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Booing the knee
Replies: 162
Views: 4606

Re: Booing the knee

I think the whole thing is daft, but I wouldn't boo it.
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

There's literally 0 point in doing so at this point. If anything, we need to throw even more caution to the wind on the off chance that we win 3+ of our remaining games. We will only win taking big chances and trying to take the game to the opposition. Possibly, but accepting that level of careless...
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:18 pm
Go on then, drop him so we can continue on the trajectory towards survival that we most definitely were not on before his return to the team.
I have to say that as an ex goalkeeper I would expect to be dropped for the 2 errors
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

Based on Trafford had 28 games to show if he was up to the premier league so based on that muric should be given the same amount of games. Muric should have started the season and had the errors piled up and his passing stats dropped and the overall play dropped then Trafford comes in, you won’t ev...
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:02 pm
I hope some of you cope with life better than you do with football setbacks

Defeat at football when not capable of doing anything abot it is just about the ultimate frustration for many.
Often resulting in a huge loss of testosterone.
Please show some pity ;)
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:59 pm
Norris doesn’t play for Burnley you bath bomb

Agree peacock-Farrell has never had a chance he should still be number 2 behind muric

No need to be (vaguely) offensive... not that I care if you are.
But the point is that the number of games played doesn't necessarily define a player's ability.
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:34 pm
Simple muric has 23 more games to go before there should even be a conversation about Trafford coming back in the side

So how many games did you give Peacock-Farrell or Norris?
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:25 pm
“That is not his fault”

Turned off after I heard that rubbish
So you missed the bit where he said Trafford is back and fit for next week then?
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:01 pm
I thought Muric was the man of the match :lol:

Nah, Verbruggen was :D
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:10 pm


He’s clearly not suitable for premier league football (not saying Trafford is either)

Concentration is an issue.
It will be interesting to see if players lose confidence in passing back to AR. If they do then one of his best attributes won't be any use.
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:07 pm
Is Vigouroux any good , has anyone seen him play?

Perhaps, if we are relegated before the end of the season, we'll get to find out.
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: All there in one match.
Replies: 37
Views: 2708

Re: All there in one match.

Dark Cloud wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:50 pm
Please add weird team selection and tactics including substitutions which have all been a huge contributing factor.
Weird selections that have had us in with a very good chance of winning the last 6 games?
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We need to talk about Foster
Replies: 85
Views: 4407

Re: We need to talk about Foster

Did anyone else notice today as Fofana was coming off after being substituted Foster held out his had to Fofana and Fofana totally blanked it, something isn't right. Fofana is rubbish, can't even knock in a tap in. Foster has been moved to accomodate Fofana. I can only imagine that the loan deal in...
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10572

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

Drop the strikers, we should have taken our chances.
by boatshed bill
Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Offside.
Replies: 8
Views: 1074

Re: Offside.

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:42 pm
I thought that was how they were going, with chips in both boots.

So definitely foot positions only for offsides?
Couldn't VAR do that without chips?
I prefer Saute potatoes meself, but would they fit in he boots?
by boatshed bill
Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: JJ Watt...
Replies: 308
Views: 19865

Re: JJ Watt...

His career earnings I think are around $150 million dollars plus. His final 2 year contract was $35 million dollars. Its mega money for a sports star. Surely His likely return on an investment with us would pale into insignificance. He won't want to lose masses, but I just can't see how this could ...
by boatshed bill
Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Offside.
Replies: 8
Views: 1074

Re: Offside.

I wish they'd make their decisions on foot positions only.
by boatshed bill
Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Maatsen mistake
Replies: 13
Views: 2542

Re: Maatsen mistake

dougcollins wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:23 pm
Aye, cos they'd know, wouldn't they.

It really doesn't matter.
by boatshed bill
Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: It’s Muric for a third game in Wolves draw
Replies: 3
Views: 243

Re: ARTICLE: It’s Muric for a third game in Wolves draw

I think he may miss out on a fourth :D
by boatshed bill
Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Shurandy Sambo
Replies: 100
Views: 7808

Re: Welcome Sambo?

Bosscat wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:02 pm
Assuming this deal has/does indeed gone through ...

Surely we will have to be aware of implications of a Song with his name in the title :shock:

What "Shu ran dy, lalalala, shu ran dy, la la la la"? :D
by boatshed bill
Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O'Shea suspended?
Replies: 37
Views: 4189

Re: O'Shea suspended?

He should be suspended for going into the tackle with the wrong foot. :D
by boatshed bill
Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16071

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

I don't know. As I said, you'd have to have a second criterion with some kind of judgement on how many goals were caused by the style of football. I would say that anecdotally, almost every pundit I've listened to including the commentators on Saturday make the point that we create our own problems...
by boatshed bill
Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16071

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

I mean stats can be difficult to prove anything one way or another but my feeling is that if Dyche had asked Pope to play out with his feet Popey would have conceded at lot of stupid goals and would probably be playing for Rotherham Utd now not Newcastle United. It wrecked his England career in 90 ...
by boatshed bill
Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Teams for Brighton
Replies: 34
Views: 2140

Re: Teams for Brighton

Vigouroux
Assignon, Al Dakhil, Esteve, Taylor,
Vitinho, Cullen, Berge, Odobert,
Foster, Rodriguez.
by boatshed bill
Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16071

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:27 pm
Just had a look at those minutes conceded.

So it just feels like we aren’t good enough. Nothing to do with what we do at certain points in the game.
That's it in a nutshell.
by boatshed bill
Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Teams for Brighton
Replies: 34
Views: 2140

Re: Teams for Brighton

Are we committed to playing Fofana if he's fit?
by boatshed bill
Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16071

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

A lot of things can be coached, I don't think concentration on the football pitch is one.
by boatshed bill
Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O'Shea ball control
Replies: 48
Views: 3324

Re: O'Shea ball control

I've just watched the match replay.
Can't see the difference between these fouls: Gomez on Odobert, Tarkowski on Esteve, and the O'Shea sending off incident.
by boatshed bill
Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Relegation
Replies: 76
Views: 4917

Re: Relegation

bumba wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:46 pm
Because we can't afford to keep this squad together. A lot want to leave, a lot will ask to leave, some aren't good enough.

So who wants to leave then?
by boatshed bill
Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: As anybody seen.....................................
Replies: 34
Views: 3346

Re: As anybody seen.....................................

Anyone seen Han Noah Massengo lately?
by boatshed bill
Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: As anybody seen.....................................
Replies: 34
Views: 3346

Re: As anybody seen.....................................

I'm sure I saw Lawrence Vigouroux on the bench on Saturday
by boatshed bill
Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Clarets suffer a damaging defeat at Everton
Replies: 29
Views: 2131

Re: REPORT: Clarets suffer a damaging defeat at Everton

We need to hire a coach (transport that is) to take the first team squad, VK, Bellamy and Jackson to watch a Luton game. Might learn more from this than that multitude of laptops clicking away in the dug-out. Oh and take the analytic gurus too with their spreadsheets Let's hope you go with them. Yo...
by boatshed bill
Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Half A Century Of ABBA
Replies: 23
Views: 1109

Re: Half A Century Of ABBA

Awful music, just awful.
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 06, 2024 6:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
Replies: 494
Views: 15733

Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Bombing out half the squad that worked, played & fought for each other last season and was so successful is the biggest issue I have. Yes it worked the first season, but it needed to be done then, To try and do the same again this season was just madness Yes, we've had far too much player turnover....
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 06, 2024 6:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
Replies: 494
Views: 15733

Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Well didn't Luton actually sign a couple of players at the start of the season? They did with the object of strengthening the team (Ross Barkley for example),not as investments, which by the way hasn't really worked for us. We had a team in the making last season. Against Arssnal at home we had one...
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
Replies: 494
Views: 15733

Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:56 pm
Again going in 0-0 at half time doesn’t guarantee we draw or win the game come the end of the game does it?

It's more than a tad better than going in one down.
Their finishing is no better than ours, so we give them a goal.
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
Replies: 494
Views: 15733

Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

How is that an argument? Yet again I’ll ask, how is it muric fault the attackers can’t score. He could start 15 attacks a game but if the attackers aren’t good enough that’s not his fault. Can’t believe you are trying to argue that it’s muric fault we only had one shot on target all game But 0-0 wo...
by boatshed bill
Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How many goals do we concede just before half time
Replies: 33
Views: 1624

Re: How many goals do we concede just before half time

I think you have got that pretty spot on. Take away our abysmal results this season, our discipline is the ultimate sign of sloppiness and you could even argue a lack of professionalism. I know it’s been done to death but all this points to VK being massively out of his depth at this level. The pla...