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So it would be correct to say that the balance sheet looks good? That can only be conjecture at this moment in time, and some speculation on my part. A lot can happen financially in the 18 months since we last saw a Profit & Loss account. As I said the real killer now has become the size of Wage bi...

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Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:57 pm
Do you not think the club will be posting another substantial profit?

Only as a result of the profit on sale of Vokes and Heaton. Without those we would have struggled to break-even, such is the enormity of our Wage bill now.

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Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:21 pm
Yes, the balance sheet looks good, as does the league table, and ultimately both are more important than being in the draw for the 5th round of the cup.

The balance sheet looks good?..........And how do you know that?

The last one we saw is over 18 months old.

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Strange the bits and pieces you remember from games........Due mainly to his unbelievable pace Ray Pointer would normally find a way to avoid a heavy tackle, but not this time. Don Howe hit Ray with a crunching tackle which resulted in our man ending the match lame. Dad said not to worry Ray will fi...

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I remember a League Cup game on the Turf against Arsenal which I think ended 3-3. I remember Brian O’Neil scoring I think the first of ours at The Cricket Field End and horribly Frank McLintock scoring two for them. I believe it was the first ever Pay Per View game on the ‘new’ pay televisions. It ...

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Dark Cloud wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:14 pm
And how much was he charging you for your pint, Roy?

A lot less than the Four Alls are charging right now, Dark Cloud.

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One or Two Burnley players from the 1914 FA Cup Final and 1921 Div 1 Championship winning teams went onto own pubs around Burnley. The Grey Mare Gannow Lane being one, and I can’t at this time just think of his name. It wasn’t a healthy atmosphere to live in then, from the stench of pipe and cigare...

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Good point away at The Hawthorns. Dad always used to rave about this WBA side as being one of the most attractive teams to watch and was packed full of England internationals including Don Howe, Ronnie Allen, Derek Kevan and, of course, Sir Bobby. Mac was missing again for us, as was Pilky who was a...

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The Blizzard with a history of televised football - given Bob Lord's infamous stance - I was surprised at how often we feature in the article (and not for that reason which doesn't get mentioned - they prefer to say it was Spurs) https://www.theblizzard.co.uk/article/football-tv-B5 Very informative...

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article on why UEFA should not be complacent about finances in the club game - essentially a (justified) rebuke to the tone of the benchmarking report published last week http://www.insideworldfootball.com/2020/01/20/financial-blues-chelsea-everton-show-uefa-complacency-unjustified/#.XiW9hqeGXaw.tw...

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I remember Arthur Bellamy being used as a sweeper but I also have earlier memories of a sweeper being employed. I was away at college at the time so I did not witness it but read newspaper reports of it. In the 65/66 season we were very successful playing 4-2-4 with O’Neill and Harris as the midfie...

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@KieranMaguire is busy doing his thing with the Everton 2018/19 financial results as well https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1217209083171934210 First real opportunity to take a proper look at the Everton figures, and to say there are some startling numbers in there would be an understatement...

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ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:00 pm
Arthur Bellamy was the First i can recall playing as a sweeper.

Has to be Arthur. Remember our first poor attempt at Leicester in 1966'67, think we lost the game 1-5.

But persevered with Bellamy who was pretty good in the position.

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quoonbeatz wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:51 pm
I'm more of a libero than a sweeper tbh.

To be fair, quoonbeatz, your dad Ken was more than adequate in the sweeper role.

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I suppose the next logical question has to be....Who was the first Burnley player to operate in the sweeper role for a number of games ?.....Anyone?

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Have to say, and not for the first time, that Swiss Ramble take an unbelievably in-depth analysis of Chelsea's financial situation. The best part for us is where he makes comparison with all other PL clubs and particularly interesting is a look and breakdown of our Broadcast Income for the '18/'19 s...

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@SwissRamble with his usual excellent analysis - Chelsea's financial results 2018/19 https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1215183113942437888 Some astronomical figures there at Chelsea. When perusing other PL clubs' accounts always find it interesting to make comparison with Burnley's wherever po...

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Chester Perry wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:31 pm
the last "charge" held over Burnley has been released as we never used the facility

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/statu ... 3242710017

And not before time.

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on Tuesday Everton have their annual shareholders meeting, where their financial plight will be revealed in all it's PR wrapped glory - it is the first time they have done so without prior release of the results to the small shareholders - it could get interesting/heated though many are prepared fo...

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following his recent spate of animated graphics (there is another I will link shortly) @KieranMaguire has published a study on wages in the Premier League up to the last set of Financial results https://www.whataretheodds.co.uk/premier-league-wages/ Burnley at £258m ?? I have Burnley's cumulative P...

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I'm sure I remember the Wrexham game as being 3 sides still. That was a remarkable day winning 1-0 in front of a packed Turf of 35,500 fans, including 12,000 from Wrexham. The day that Bob Lord banned the cameras and for many years there seemed to be no footage from the game. Then on 15th January 2...

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First game the Bob Lord stand was open was the 5th Round FA Cup tie against Villa on 16th Feb.'74.

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Blackrod wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:32 pm
I wonder how much of the 110 k week we paid. Crazy for what he offered on the pitch and the pathetic off the field antics.

The average weekly wage at Chelsea last season was in excess of £130k.

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I love this sort of stuff. Are there any good sites that have collections of old Burnley pictures? Worth noting that we lost 6 games though that season though. Dyche’s fault. Check back on this site, bud, about 6 months ago. The thread was Burnley fc in pictures, think started by Steve1956. One of ...

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Looks to be a nice sunny day, perhaps it was the first game of the season against Bradford City. We lost 1-4 but it was the only defeat at home all season. Dad often talked about that game as being one the first he could remember as a little 'un. Lost the next two away and then went on a 30 game unb...

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Good stuff, Mike.

What a team......what a season.

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In the capital and reserves Last reported figure in the P&L account was £60.6m with total shareholders funds of £76.7m. That figure is on the Balance Sheet, not the P&L, and the £60.666m is within the Total Shareholders Funds of £76.684m. As posted earlier the Cash at Bank and in hand was £34.412m....

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Over the last 6 years up to June 2018, turnover has been just over £400m, operating profit (before depreciation) just over £100m, and net spend on players about £55m. We are left with less than £50m spare cash, a fair chunk of which has been spent on Gawthorpe, and £10m more on repaying the directo...

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I’ve said before that, to me, the chase and capture of the Premier League has been better than trying to stop it escaping again. Without outside investment we are trapped in a paradox. We can’t compete in the Premier League, even with the PL Money, but we also can’t compete in the Championship over...

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The £80m is all of the clubs wages - players, manager, coaches, sports scientists, and all other staff. I thought we employed around 100 staff in total - might be wrong with that but I know the non playing staff has increased a lot since we have been in this league. I’d say in terms of playing staf...

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For anyone who wondered we were on 280 Mill just below Leeds and Portsmouth it is scary how much some of the Clubs in this list have paid out baring in mind how long the likes of Leeds, Blackburn, Bolton, Wigan and Portsmouth have been out of the prem. https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1...

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Found this very interesting wages paid from 1992/93 to 2018/19 from the excellent Kieran Maguire again. https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1190706/ Fascinating graphs and might be of interest to some to place those Wage bills for Burnley alongside the Net Profit for the same years in Ches...

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For balance here is another animated graphic looking at pre-tax profit in the history of the Premier League https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1213920989794443264 Brilliant to see that 'little old Burnley' appear at 4th in the list of Clubs earning pre-tax Profits in the Premier League. I thi...

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Are Everton about to get another Billionaire investor? - there is no doubt that they need the money and the relationship with the current major shareholder is very well established https://www.ft.com/content/396c358c-2d75-11ea-bc77-65e4aa615551 Be intriguing to take a serious look at these potentia...

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if they really want to "stretch the structure" sell up and let people with the capability move in. Wile........That's the reason I offered an open-mind solution to your similar thread of a few days ago. To avoid repetition, perhaps a link to that thread might now be appropriate. To be fair to Crick...

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David Brookes, Dan James, James Maddison for example, I'd never heard of them before there transfers and subsequent appearances....we just dont tap into the lower leagues like others do. I'm still shocked at our wage bill given the players we have, we have done exceptionally well there is no doubti...

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Thinking about it more, there really should be a film made about that period at Burnley Football Club and in particular captain Tommy Boyle. The problem is anyone not familiar with our history would not believe the facts........Tommy captains the side to win the FA Cup in 1914, then goes off to figh...

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Interesting reference to Colin McDonald in the linked article having played an 'A' team game at Gawthorpe as part of his long term recovery from a broken leg. There was a massive buzz around town that his return to the first team was imminent, but ever so sadly it never happened. Colin struggled on ...

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Quite possibly this was the performance of the season so far, 5-2 away at West Ham, a team that had won their previous seven home games on the bounce. Plenty of Burnley fans there to see it too. No Jimmy Mac but Ian Lawson, as ever, proved a worthy deputy and scored a couple. Mac, by his own admissi...

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1920/21, a truly remarkable season. Starts with three defeats on the bounce, then the following 30 games undefeated and finally Champions of Division One. Halley, Boyle & Watson, household names. Bob Kelly 20 goals, Joe Anderson 25 goals. Even 7 goals from man mountain and captain Tommy Boyle at cen...

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believe me, I am a dullard when it comes to these (and probably most other) topics, but if there is a plan of action, or a next phase, all well and good. I would rather we remained strong, but with a local link too. But I can't see how we can compete or improve that much with a colossal wage bill a...

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Very reasonable and understandable sentiments from the OP, but the reality is it's not going to happen. There have been two serious attempts and other tentative enquiries but all have been resisted by the current seven Board members. Easy to understand their concerns and suspicions particularly when...

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Or just post information that everyone has access to :roll: Not aware of the source of the information of the table shown in Joey13's post but the comparison indicated of Brighton and Burnley is wholly inaccurate. They appear to have used data from the accounts of both Clubs to financial year ended...

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Peel Park, Accy.

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If you think Burnley being in the premier league and being competitive there is mediocrity, then you need to recalibrate the scales that you are using. Realistically, where do you think a club like Burnley would normalise in the 91 clubs in the league, all being equal...... Top 6? 6th - 10th? 11th ...

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"The win took Burnley back to third in the table, above rivals Blackburn Rovers (who played twice in two days against Blackpool) on goal average." Twice in two days! Puts the alleged fixture congestion into perspective Jimmy Mac often made reference to the difficult fixture list over Christmas. In ...

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My brother went with my dad to this one on the old 'Ribble' X23 from Haslingden. Sadly, I wasn't allowed to go. Our last ever victory at Old Trafford to now? A lot of 'almosts' since and I think your use of 'United came back strongly in the second half' says a lot about our fortunes there. Must als...

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This is our first season after promotion in 1947. Five wins and five draws in first ten and then defeat at Preston on Boxing Day. https://www.uptheclarets.com/fixtures-results/194748-results Two amazing seasons in our history immediately after the end of WW2. 1946/47 we were unlucky beaten finalist...

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Down_Rover wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:05 pm
I will never forget his strike at Anfield.

Good as he was attacking he came nowhere near Wardy as a defender. Ward had that knack of arriving in the right place at the right time

September 1974, an absolute screamer that silenced the Kop, was also the only goal in a 1-0 away win.

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ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:13 am
Don’t think we’ve ever made a permanent signing from Millwall

Hugh Robertson in 1895. With us for two seasons scoring 17 goals in 46 appearances before leaving for Lincoln in 1897.

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