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by nil_desperandum
Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610853

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

How does either club or player know what will be classed as a good salary in potentially 3/4 years time though? Isn't that exactly the reason why it's a bit of a sticking point? No one knows how he might progress, what he might be worth, or how the transfer market might look, but obviously he will ...
by nil_desperandum
Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610853

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Don't you think he might want some assurance that he'll be earning a certain salary? Wouldn't you? Indeed.I posted this yesterday. He will need assurances that Villa can't offer him less favorable terms because they have first option on him in the future. It's a crucial point,and probably not easy ...
by nil_desperandum
Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610853

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

RicardoMontalban wrote:
Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:05 pm
He would be the third of three.
Precisely.
2nd of two if either of the others picks up an injury or suspension.
(It's pretty much the same at all the PL and Championship clubs).
by nil_desperandum
Sun Aug 06, 2023 3:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610853

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Then why do we pay 14-17 million for a position that was not a priority ? So, which goalkeeper would you have signed for less money who would be PL standard and also be a potential investment? A 2nd keeper was always a top priority. Let's just imagine that we stayed with the 3 keepers from last sea...
by nil_desperandum
Sun Aug 06, 2023 1:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Family friendly restaurant in Burnley
Replies: 11
Views: 1346

Re: Family friendly restaurant in Burnley

JJs Diner, but you will need to check that it's open Sunday afternoon, and - if it is - book a table.
It's nearly always busy. (A good sign).
Think it closes at 2.30
by nil_desperandum
Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New EFL season starts today
Replies: 34
Views: 1776

Re: New EFL season starts today

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:42 pm
West Brom are utter dog ****.
Yes they are in big trouble as a club and I expect them to really struggle this season
by nil_desperandum
Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610853

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

This seems a bit strange. You would think that the player could negotiate their personal terms after the buy-back had been triggered - like a normal transfer scenario. There’s so many things that can potentially change between now and that point that it seems unusual that those terms have to be agr...
by nil_desperandum
Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610853

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Is he not making the point that due to the size of our squad already, signing Maatsen who wouldn’t need to be registered due to his age, would take up squad space. Just like Ramsey at Villa if we signed him wouldn’t need to be registered either That's my point exactly. Chelsea have a huge squad of ...
by nil_desperandum
Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610853

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Er, here's something interesting: Maatsen's birthday falls after Jan 1st 2002. He's considered an under 21 under PL rules. pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease. Oh my god it's the hope that kills you. Not sure I understand your logic here. Surely Maatsen being considered under 21 makes it more likely - n...
by nil_desperandum
Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hijack
Replies: 28
Views: 3966

Re: Hijack

Agree with much of the consensus above.
Ludicrous, flawed and totally unrealistic at times, but good viewing up to the last episode, (which like many series recently) was quite disappointing (IMO).
by nil_desperandum
Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Guardian. Burnleys prediction. 2023/24
Replies: 14
Views: 2105

Re: The Guardian. Burnleys prediction. 2023/24

I think Crystal Palace,Fulham and Wolves will struggle this season and think our 'revolution' will take us above Everton, Bournemouth , Forest, and Brentford. So including the promoted teams Luton and Sheff Utd , that will leave us around mid table If we finish above Brentford we'll most likely be ...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610853

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:26 pm
I agree an excellent move Stoke are this years Burnley
Watch them fly.Personally I don't care who comes up as long as Dirty Leeds stay down
Even that lot down the M65?
You must be joking - surely?
by nil_desperandum
Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jimmy Anderson
Replies: 25
Views: 2441

Re: Jimmy Anderson

Depends how he performs. I get the impression Brendan and stokes will be ruthless (similar to VK no room for sentiment). If he gets back to the Jimmy we know and love 100% he’s one of the best bowlers on the planet in that form. But if he has another poor series I am not sure they will pick him. I ...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jimmy Anderson
Replies: 25
Views: 2441

Re: Jimmy Anderson

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:17 am
If Jimmy has another series like this one, not sure how much longer he will around the squad
You really don't see him having a role "around the squad" going forward??
by nil_desperandum
Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jimmy Anderson
Replies: 25
Views: 2441

Re: Jimmy Anderson

With Broad gone, Anderson's role in the next 18 months could be very important as we transition towards the next Ashes series. His presence on the field (and especially as a squad member) will be invaluable.
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 5th Ashes test
Replies: 478
Views: 20940

Re: 5th Ashes test

Agreed but you could say the same about Australia! Hazlewood, Starc, Lyon and Cummins are all the ‘wrong’ side of 30… They are but they are by no means the oldest players. You can add Carey and Marsh to the list as both will soon be 32, but: Smith is 34,so is Boland , and both Warner and Khawaja ar...
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 5th Ashes test
Replies: 478
Views: 20940

Re: 5th Ashes test

I'm afraid England are. going to have to learn some harsh lessons from this series
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 5th Ashes test
Replies: 478
Views: 20940

Re: 5th Ashes test

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:57 am
This new ball is swinging more than it’s done all series
It is when we pitch it up.
Result: Wood gets Labuschagne(as I was posting!)
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 5th Ashes test
Replies: 478
Views: 20940

Re: 5th Ashes test

FCBurnley wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:13 am
Let’s also not forget that Australia only need a draw which if we have weather delays is in play
If we lose a few overs his afternoon and Australia have lost a few wickets then I think the draw might be the favourite. The Australians will not take any risks.
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 5th Ashes test
Replies: 478
Views: 20940

Re: 5th Ashes test

VERY EASY with hindsight but putting Warner and Khawaja into bat at 6pm last night for 30 mins would have made much more sense than letting Jimmy and Broad have a cameo for old times sake. Got whacked round the field all day then put into bat under the clouds, I think one would have gone. Anyhow, i...
by nil_desperandum
Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weghorst Reception
Replies: 498
Views: 24927

Re: Weghorst Reception

Sadly it looks as though certain posters are deliberately trying to shut down this thread with increasingly extreme posts.
Edit: Not aimed at you Riley
by nil_desperandum
Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 5th Ashes test
Replies: 478
Views: 20940

Re: 5th Ashes test

CleggHall wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:35 am
Need to bat all day Saturday, build an innings not reckless bazball. Both teams evenly matched since Lyons injury and we deserve to share the Ashes.
Unfortunately there's quite a lot of potential rain forecast for tomorrow and Monday, so it could ruin the game.
by nil_desperandum
Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 5th Ashes test
Replies: 478
Views: 20940

Re: 5th Ashes test

I can't say I had seen much of him. Did he bowl well in the Ireland Test? I thought Potts was the next youngster in line at the time? Tongue is certainly on the radar now though. Bowled really well, no wickets in the 1st innings when he only bowled 13 overs, but took 5-66 in 21 overs in the 2nd inn...
by nil_desperandum
Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 5th Ashes test
Replies: 478
Views: 20940

Re: 5th Ashes test

Based on what? Robinson averages less than 22 in Tests. Based on the way they were bowling earlier in the season. Tongue was pretty impressive. Robinson less so,and also - as I suggested, because Robinson is (IMO) an inferior version of Anderson and Broad, whereas Tongue is a bit different - can ge...
by nil_desperandum
Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 5th Ashes test
Replies: 478
Views: 20940

Re: 5th Ashes test

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:53 pm
I wouldn't have picked Ali but he had to pick our best 3 seamers at the time. I can't recall there being much complaining on here about them at the time.
I would have picked Tongue ahead of Robinson with Wood not available at Edgbaston. He would have given us a bit more variety and pace.
by nil_desperandum
Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 5th Ashes test
Replies: 478
Views: 20940

Re: 5th Ashes test

Approaching the end of a tight series that we may well lose 3-1, but could easily have won 4-0. No doubt that the man of the series has been Bairstow, but sadly not for the right reasons, and not really his fault since he isn't one of the selectors. Two highly "controversial" decisions have now gone...
by nil_desperandum
Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bradley Dack.
Replies: 10
Views: 2653

Re: Bradley Dack.

Mowbray’s done him some favour there. He’s been shite for a few seasons now. Let's be honest: There's plenty in Dack's past that is dodgy, but he was a very talented footballer until he was ravaged by injuries. Mowbray looked after him well - even speaking up for him in court - and got the best out...
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O/T The rebuilding of Dresden
Replies: 21
Views: 1292

Re: O/T The rebuilding of Dresden

I see you used the word bureaucracy…. I’ll use it myself in a moment, but to respond to your final sentence, yes it has. But it needn’t have been, and that’s my point. It’s ARTIFICIALLY harder, and it’s been designed that way on purpose. Nowt changed overnight, other than the level of bureaucracy. ...
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O/T The rebuilding of Dresden
Replies: 21
Views: 1292

Re: O/T The rebuilding of Dresden

Exactly what should have happened in the UK. Once beautiful cities like Coventry are now scarred with brutalist ugly buildings. There isn't a major city in the UK that escaped bad architecture. We did far more damage to our cities with bad architecture than the Luftwaffe managed. To reverse the dam...
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 5th Ashes test
Replies: 478
Views: 20940

Re: 5th Ashes test

Aus win the toss and bowl first. Very surprised at that. They bring a spinner in and don't want him bowling on the last day. A very dry pitch with a bit of grass on. Get through the first hour unscathed and Australia could be in for a long Test match. Can only think they don't want England chasing ...
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O/T The rebuilding of Dresden
Replies: 21
Views: 1292

Re: O/T The rebuilding of Dresden

One of my favourite cities.
Would love to have seen it pre 1939, but as you say they've done an amazing job of reconstruction - much of it since the Communists left and Germany was reunited in 1989 / 90
The Frauenkirche is one of my favourite places anywhere.
It was still a pile of rubble in 1994.
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jul 27, 2023 9:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610853

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Southampton don't need to sell & Southampton want to get promoted as soon as possible. If you bid close to a figure you usually get a counter offer or some signs/indication that you are somewhere close. From the sounds of it 9 is nowhere close even if Southampton wanted to sell. I guess we'll have ...
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610853

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:40 am
:o :o NEVER!!

Massive reception due for him here when he comes back.
As a Claret?
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: FAO Admin / ClaretTony
Replies: 26
Views: 2583

Re: FAO Admin / ClaretTony

SurreyClaret99 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:04 pm
Great thanks. Will try to come up with a new username and let you know.
How about:
"Norfolk ''n' Good"
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610853

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Southampton have reportedly rejected the opening bid of 9 & value him double that 18 expecting an improved bid maybe meeting in the middle, if "the price will be close to £9" the bid would have been accepted today or at least negotiations would be underway without the rejection, there's no evidence...
by nil_desperandum
Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 5th Ashes test
Replies: 478
Views: 20940

Re: 5th Ashes test

I think Anderson has bowled pretty well, but with no luck.
However his record at the Oval is not so good and conditions there tend not to suit him, so I'm bit surprised that he gets the nod rather than the pacier Tongue. A good few Australians have shown a vulnerability to extreme pace in this series.
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benfica - v - Burnley MATCH THREAD
Replies: 602
Views: 21579

Re: Benfica - v - Burnley MATCH THREAD

Great performance, lucky for Benfica we rested our best players … Not sure there'll be any agreement as to who our best players are at present. Based on tonight, Ekdal would have to be the first name on the teamsheet, but Beyer didn't even get a game and Al-Dakhil and O'Shea were outstanding. Muric...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weghorst Reception
Replies: 498
Views: 24927

Re: Weghorst Reception

Les Lawrence wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:43 am
Can you explain to me why the players took the knee?I need educating?
Our captain- at the time - Ben Mee explained it really well for those who chose to ignore other sources of information.
It's not a difficult thing to understand.
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weghorst Reception
Replies: 498
Views: 24927

Re: Weghorst Reception

By all accounts Besiktas (club officials and not just fans) were very aggrieved by the way he dumped them after the World Cup and forced his way out of his loan deal. Now if they were to re-sign him now, do you think all Besiktas fans would stand and applaud him onto the field? Not sure how that's ...
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Back street, alley way, ginnel, snicket
Replies: 36
Views: 2143

Re: Back street, alley way, ginnel, snicket

ArmchairDetective wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:47 am

An alley is a generalised term, like a hot tub rather than a type of hot tub such as a jaccuzi. You wouldn't go to a party and throw some balls down the bowling ginnel.
I've always assumed that the term alley comes form the French "allée",which is one of their words for avenue.
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Venkys
Replies: 210
Views: 28562

Re: Venkys

Spijed wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:13 am

Be careful what people wish for. Because if we drop and don't return within the next few seasons we are likely to face serious financial difficulties.
Not if we ensure that our saleable assets outstrip potential debts, which I think is our current model.
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weghorst Reception
Replies: 498
Views: 24927

Re: Weghorst Reception

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:05 pm
I’m not sure how much longer he can dine out on those 2 goals
Maybe a fair point, but seriously? You think he has no sell-on value?
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610853

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

I think it's always been pretty obvious that in order to get the best deal on Tella we'll have to wait until the final days / hours of the transfer window. If he wants to join us, and he has told Southampton that this is the position, (we don't know if this is the case), then they'll almost certainl...
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weghorst Reception
Replies: 498
Views: 24927

Re: Weghorst Reception

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:25 pm
I’d be impressed if we got a fee
Seriously.
Current Dutch international with 2 goals at recent World Cup and you don't think he has a value?
Not even say 5 million?
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:45 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weghorst Reception
Replies: 498
Views: 24927

Re: Weghorst Reception

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:40 am
Weghorst being booed in a friendly is funny. Simple as that.
In what sense is it funny?
Embarrassing more like. As implied in houseboy's recent post, it's what we have come to expect just down the M65, and they're on a different trajectory to us.
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weghorst Reception
Replies: 498
Views: 24927

Re: Weghorst Reception

Just imagine a life where loads of sad old grumpy people spend their Saturday nights arguing about a meaninless friendly with people they dont know and will never meet. As Albert Einstein once said When you look at yourself from a universal standpoint, something inside always reminds or informs you...
by nil_desperandum
Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weghorst Reception
Replies: 498
Views: 24927

Re: Weghorst Reception

To be fair Lancaster I think you are vastly under appreciating how much he is hated. Really can't understand how anyone would HATE him. It's such a strong and emotive word. You might not rate him as a footballer, you might not particularly like him, but it's clear that many in the football world do...
by nil_desperandum
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Genk v Burnley - Team News
Replies: 202
Views: 15415

Re: Genk v Burnley - Team News

We refuse to pay what I consider to be a fair asking price for Tella and are left with cheaper that cheap options such as a spent Townsend and the lumbering Weghorst. I struggle to be optimistic. You seem to have a blindspot here. If Weghorst can do the job that VK wants him to do,then he's like a ...
by nil_desperandum
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weghorst Reception
Replies: 498
Views: 24927

Re: Weghorst Reception

Just imagine signing for the club a matter of weeks /days ago, (as several of today's squad have), and then finding that our own supporters boo and abuse one of our own players. (One who might be integral to VK's plans).
by nil_desperandum
Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ashes 4th Test
Replies: 435
Views: 21684

Re: Ashes 4th Test

We seem to be concerned about having a a regular spinner so as I said the only way they would have got Foakes in would be to have dropped a pace bowler. Which isn’t going to happen whilst Stokes isn’t bowling. Or simply to play Foakes for Bairstow in the first two tests and have him bat at 7. His b...