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by AndrewJB
Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who likes Boris?
Replies: 309
Views: 18384

Re: Who likes Boris?

TBF the bottom line always stops at if you are unsure check local guidance for clarification, prime minister or no prime minister how you can expect somebody to know district to district the exact rules which are changing on a daily basis is beyond me. The rules are supposed to be coming from centr...
by AndrewJB
Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who likes Boris?
Replies: 309
Views: 18384

Re: Who likes Boris?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ut-PM.html

Man of the people Johnson struggling on his PM salary. Has to pay for his own food when entertaining friends. Can’t afford a nanny. So in tune with average working people.
by AndrewJB
Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Donald Trump
Replies: 2370
Views: 191372

Re: Donald Trump

He comes across as completely unhinged. The crazy allegations: “They (Democrats) will destroy the American dream. They will destroy America.” It’s all very similar to the Tory attacks on Labour in the last election. No evidence, just conspiracy theory level slurs that their supporters swallow whole ...
by AndrewJB
Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Will You Be Downloading the App?
Replies: 166
Views: 12991

Re: Will You Be Downloading the App?

Like any good citizen I downloaded and use the app. My area was one of the earlier practice ones, so it was downloaded about a month ago. It’s strange to call it “NHS” when it’s not run by the NHS. And the back end of tracking and tracing is being done very badly, and has cost the country a fortune....
by AndrewJB
Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Last night of the Proms
Replies: 468
Views: 23692

Re: Last night of the Proms

The Guardian is no more honest than any other paper when it comes to political views. It's littered with lefty columnists because its a left leaning paper. You like it because it aligns with your very left wing political views. In regards to your We are the people comment, I've no idea what you're ...
by AndrewJB
Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Last night of the Proms
Replies: 468
Views: 23692

Re: Last night of the Proms

Yes there's no agenda at all in the guardian or from its contributors, including the famously neutral Ash and Owen.... I’ve said you won’t like the politics, but at least the journalism is honest. As compared to the rightwing press. If you prefer your news spoonfed by a billionaire, then go for it....
by AndrewJB
Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12676
Views: 1243687

Re: ALK Capital...

It's the small town mentality that is entrenched in many of our fan base. They constantly compare everything to the 80's to justify events today without realising that it's just as irrelevant as comparing today to the 60's. I always think of the league of gentlemen. Local club for local people.... ...
by AndrewJB
Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Last night of the Proms
Replies: 468
Views: 23692

Re: Last night of the Proms

Is it the best paper because its the one most closely aligned with your views? Yes the original owner of the Guardian made his fortune through links to the slave trade. It’s the best paper in terms of quality. You can read it knowing you’re not being fed the agenda of a rich owner. The Times and th...
by AndrewJB
Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Last night of the Proms
Replies: 468
Views: 23692

Re: Last night of the Proms

The "billionaires own all the newspapers" nonsense falls down as soon as you start asking who owns the guardian though (and don't even mention how it was established in the first place. Will be the last we hear from all the people who hate anyone who has the same coloured skin as anyone who traded ...
by AndrewJB
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Last night of the Proms
Replies: 468
Views: 23692

Re: Last night of the Proms

Would that be the National trust that's openly acknowledging that approx 90 properties in their portfolio have historical links to the slave trade/colonialism ? It won't be the right demanding they do anything about them and you know that already. Left wingers ripping up their memberships like this...
by AndrewJB
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Last night of the Proms
Replies: 468
Views: 23692

Re: Last night of the Proms

If you believe that the tide hasn't turned , and the majority of people haven't seen BLM for the Marxist terrorist organisation for what it is. Then you're even more of a metropolitan bubble dweller than I ever thought you were! Are you somehow directly wired into the public consciousness up in Bur...
by AndrewJB
Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Last night of the Proms
Replies: 468
Views: 23692

Re: Last night of the Proms

I suppose it's another step towards your definition of a free press. The press will never be truly free until it has to print only that news which it is told to by the government. You can't have a free press when the press can print what it likes. That's about it, isn't it? When have I ever advocat...
by AndrewJB
Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Last night of the Proms
Replies: 468
Views: 23692

Re: Last night of the Proms

Damo wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:16 pm
The Spectator is fighting back

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the ... ssion=true
https://stopfundinghate.info/

Stop Funding Hate is a worthy campaign.
by AndrewJB
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who likes Boris?
Replies: 309
Views: 18384

Re: Who likes Boris?

More is the pity. Edward Heath drove a tank in the war while people shot at him .....he might have had a posh voice but it conferred a degree of authority that today's leaders really don't have. Heath served in the Royal Artillery during the war. To be pedantic. I think some of his authority was mo...
by AndrewJB
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Donald Trump
Replies: 2370
Views: 191372

Re: Donald Trump

For a long time now Trump has openly talked about ignoring the voice of the American people should he lose the election. That should be the beginning and end of any conversation about him.
by AndrewJB
Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Donald Trump
Replies: 2370
Views: 191372

Re: Donald Trump

The law didn't reflect MLK's dream when he died, it does now and has for some time. Much progress has followed especially in the UK I would argue. What a lesson. What does the teacher say to the mixed race boy who asks if he has white privilege? The voting equality law was axed some time ago, and t...
by AndrewJB
Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 864
Views: 46093

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

it is all about change, hopefully in the end it's for the better good of the country, it's trivial in the grand scheme of things and won't really effect that many people and those it does will be something they can change. It will not stop them living where they want or transferring funds, they wil...
by AndrewJB
Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who likes Boris?
Replies: 309
Views: 18384

Re: Who likes Boris?

For me he's likeable. Is he a leader? Not really. However when you look at the alternatives across his own party, let alone the entire political spectrum; he was the best of a bad bunch. None remotely looked like leaders prepared to make tough decisions and stand by them regardless of popularity. H...
by AndrewJB
Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Donald Trump
Replies: 2370
Views: 191372

Re: Donald Trump

As already stated, we disagree on anti-semitism. But we finally agree on something. My initial post was to say that this election was a grim choice of the least bad option and it seems you agree. I'm just not sure at this point what is the least bad option? I dislike Trump for many reasons but I fe...
by AndrewJB
Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Stephens deal imminent
Replies: 232
Views: 29253

Re: Stephens deal imminent

A good signing. I’m sure if he’s been on our list for a while, his attitude and behaviour has been well vetted. He’ll also be familiar with us.
by AndrewJB
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 864
Views: 46093

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

Who's made it more complicated for this instance? Clearly it's the EU How? We are the ones leaving. Forty years of integration was never going to be easy to unpick. If there is anyone deserving blame first, it has to be those people who insisted what is happening wouldn’t happen. They should be hel...
by AndrewJB
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who likes Boris?
Replies: 309
Views: 18384

Re: Who likes Boris?

The Gov used austerity to reduce the deficit though, because that was a massive problem. The EU also pushed for Austerity measures to be enforced across the EU. The government reduced taxes on the rich, and on large corporations, while piling misery on people at the bottom. Austerity was never abou...
by AndrewJB
Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 864
Views: 46093

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

See my previous comment where I've shown the UK has ensured minimal disruption for EU banks, but the EU isn't returning the favour. That snippet is from the Guardian article about this story to ensure its got some credibility on here :roll: The complaint is genuine this time, we've legislated, the ...
by AndrewJB
Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who likes Boris?
Replies: 309
Views: 18384

Re: Who likes Boris?

Which debt are you referring too for this Gov? Labour coughed up hundreds of millions to bail out banks that had made mistakes that led to the crash. They were bailed out/rewarded for failure basically and they've made a mockery of that ever since. The Covid Pandemic isn't the fault of the UK busin...
by AndrewJB
Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who likes Boris?
Replies: 309
Views: 18384

Re: Who likes Boris?

There’s a difference between understanding it and taking notice of it. We’ve had a senior government advisor take his sick wife across the country, and then have a sixty mile trip for an eye test - and not resign or even apologise. The government asking us to go out to eat, and go into the office. ...
by AndrewJB
Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Donald Trump
Replies: 2370
Views: 191372

Re: Donald Trump

Oh, come on Andrew, your balanced views are well known. In your view, the use of the term Cultural Marxism amounted to vile anti-semitism but describing British Jews as fundamentally different to us true Brits was ok in the right context. I disagreed. And I didn't insist that Corbyn is an anti-semi...
by AndrewJB
Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Donald Trump
Replies: 2370
Views: 191372

Re: Donald Trump

It was racist because Biden was saying that a person's skin colour would determine their vote (at least if they happen to have been born black). It's racist to think that people of the same skin colour should hold the same political opinions and all vote for the same party. This is very basic to be...
by AndrewJB
Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 864
Views: 46093

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

Wow. There are people on here who think the PM can "slip away" for a few days unnoticed. How do you think he does this? Take a quick EasyJet flight to to Venice? Tells all his security staff to look away constantly? This is as credible as the much repeated and disgraceful claims on this site agains...
by AndrewJB
Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:35 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Donald Trump
Replies: 2370
Views: 191372

Re: Donald Trump

Did you read the rolling stone article Charlie? It was basically all based on the words of an unknown source, with unconfirmed footage. On a page noted as being untrustworthy, and left leaning, forgive me for not accepting it as cast iron proof that someone else was lying. (I know you probably real...
by AndrewJB
Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Donald Trump
Replies: 2370
Views: 191372

Re: Donald Trump

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:30 pm
AndrewJB, PeterWilton, Damo, Greenmile, et al - are you Burnley fans? Odd I never see posts from you in the football threads but lots of exchanges in a Donald Trump thread while a match is on?!?
Why don’t you attempt reading a proper football thread?
by AndrewJB
Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Donald Trump
Replies: 2370
Views: 191372

Re: Donald Trump

Damo wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:24 pm
Its not like you to cometely ignore things, and just decide how they are according to your own thoughts pal
I would take factual with right or left bias, over non factual any day. Wouldn’t you?
by AndrewJB
Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leicester v Burnley - Match day thread
Replies: 494
Views: 31567

Re: Leicester v Burnley - Match day thread

Long looking comfortable. And our first away goal. Not all bad.
by AndrewJB
Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Donald Trump
Replies: 2370
Views: 191372

Re: Donald Trump

"These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation.  They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit re...
by AndrewJB
Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Donald Trump
Replies: 2370
Views: 191372

Re: Donald Trump

Damo wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:19 pm
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasf ... one/%3famp

Rolling stone as reported by mediabiasfactcheck
Rated “high” with factual reporting,
by AndrewJB
Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Donald Trump
Replies: 2370
Views: 191372

Re: Donald Trump

4:20 wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:54 pm
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/cu ... fa-877914/

Andy Ngo as reported on by Rolling Stone.
by AndrewJB
Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 864
Views: 46093

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/20/boris-wo ... -13297031/

When he’s not giving Johnny Foreigner the what for, man of the people Johnson worries about money, just like normal people do.
by AndrewJB
Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Donald Trump
Replies: 2370
Views: 191372

Re: Donald Trump

If the Democrats win the presidency and gain a majority in the senate, there’s nothing stopping them from increasing the number of Supreme Court justices.
by AndrewJB
Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 864
Views: 46093

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/17/angry-tory-mps-reject-joe-biden-comments-uk-eu-brexit-talks The attitude of “we will do whatever we like, and shape reality to our own liking” isn’t working in the real world. Even if Trump is re-elected, the Democrats can still block a UK deal via th...
by AndrewJB
Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 864
Views: 46093

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

my opinion is irrefutable in the fact our PM at the time said, what was offered was not enough from the EU and therefore we will have a referendum, the rest from that point is a series of well known facts that get us to today. You can blindly continue to offer some fact that you think support your ...
by AndrewJB
Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 864
Views: 46093

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

The EU became more Neo-liberal while we were in it, and I’d say that came down to our influence. We were on the losing side of votes about two percent of the time, so that’s no sign of us being pushed around. We stayed out of the Euro, and of Schengen. In which ways was Britain pushed around by the ...
by AndrewJB
Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Proof our migrant crisis is a hoax
Replies: 93
Views: 8905

Re: Proof our migrant crisis is a hoax

I'd deport foreign criminals upon completion of their sentance, regardless of if they've got family or a cat here. Religion - the only things that need restricting are the extremists, turf them out if they're here preaching hatred or lock them up, or if their church is still protecting child abuser...
by AndrewJB
Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Proof our migrant crisis is a hoax
Replies: 93
Views: 8905

Re: Proof our migrant crisis is a hoax

Britain 2020- "When we say we want to kill whitey , we don't really mean we want to kill whitey....we do" https://mobile.twitter.com/susiejmoon/status/1306339861759172614 People like you normalise and embolden anti white racism Andrew JB. You help to fuel institutional hate against white people. Th...
by AndrewJB
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 864
Views: 46093

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:43 am
So Osborne was telling fibs then, because if it was really needed, it would've been irrelevant who was running the country
Did you ever believe anything Osborne said? “We’re all in this together”
by AndrewJB
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:45 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 864
Views: 46093

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

Darthlaw wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:00 am
It’s like when the first ‘nice’ gangster turns up to explain the protection racket. :lol: Added the bit about the fees, Andrew ;)
We paid in as one of the richer members. Now we’ll be spending more than that on regulations.
by AndrewJB
Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 864
Views: 46093

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

Rowls wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:32 am
Wow! It's like 2016 all over again! :lol:
Are you thinking about the bus? And Gove telling the plebs they’ve heard enough of experts? 75 Million Turks? The easiest trade deal ever? LOL
by AndrewJB
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Proof our migrant crisis is a hoax
Replies: 93
Views: 8905

Re: Proof our migrant crisis is a hoax

The difference between you and me is that I don't project. I'm not trying to "appeal to baser emotional instincts " The fact is, a rapidly increasing number of people , the silent , majority in my opinion , believe that the multiculturalism which they have never consented to, or has any democratic ...
by AndrewJB
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 864
Views: 46093

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

The EU as a sort of benevolent colonial empire? Not a fashionable political system, I wouldn't have thought. It’s a club. If you meet the strict rule requirements (You’re a democracy, you have rule of law, etc etc) you can join it. You can also leave as we’ve seen. What you can’t have is the benefi...
by AndrewJB
Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 864
Views: 46093

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

Copied this earlier:- We’re a sovereign country we can make our own rules the EU have broken every rule they have made and we’ve had to pay for it they have deliberately destroyed our industries over 46 years they want us to be a third world country fully dependant on them I’m with Boris all the wa...
by AndrewJB
Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Proof our migrant crisis is a hoax
Replies: 93
Views: 8905

Re: Proof our migrant crisis is a hoax

That's why people claiming refugee status are low economic value migrants - because they aren't allowed to work. Therefore they pay no tax, therefore their costs are not offset by any earnings. I don't know how you can claim they "effectively pay more tax"? And if they arrive from France, in what w...
by AndrewJB
Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Proof our migrant crisis is a hoax
Replies: 93
Views: 8905

Re: Proof our migrant crisis is a hoax

I know it’s not an argument because you have none. Can square it off quite easily. More people = more demand and therefore pressure on the said services of which some are beyond capacity already. Which is the responsibility of the government to provide. Up until the Covid crisis, most people coming...