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by quoonbeatz
Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: The home defeats keep coming
Replies: 44
Views: 4709

Re: REPORT: The home defeats keep coming

The slight issue with your view is that it renders any success in the Championship rather pointless too. Surely Brighton and Brentford are good models for us. Able to have enjoyable seasons and stick it to the big boys whilst thriving with talented players spotted through clever scouting. And sure,...
by quoonbeatz
Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sheffield United is a must win or Kompany has to go
Replies: 116
Views: 14527

Re: Sheffield United is a must win or Kompany has to go

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:05 am
Why do people keep saying £100m? It’s probably nowhere near that figure.
It isn't. People like hyperbole though, makes everything seem more extreme than it is.
by quoonbeatz
Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ref Watch on the two penalty claims
Replies: 26
Views: 3147

Re: Ref Watch on the two penalty claims

He only gave the second because he knew he should have given the first. When you look at the United pen yesterday which was near identical, it shows what a bad decision our first one was.
by quoonbeatz
Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Terry Venables RIP
Replies: 38
Views: 2936

Re: Terry Venables RIP

Sad news. Euro 96 was tremendous. A proper football man.
by quoonbeatz
Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v West Ham - Player Ratings
Replies: 101
Views: 8128

Re: Burnley v West Ham - Player Ratings

Yet by a number of the comments a lot of people obviously don’t know that’s our tactic. I thought we were pretty seamless at playing out from Trafford yesterday - certainly the most effective and error-free we’ve been so far this season. In fact, had the game ended in the 86th minute I’m sure we’d ...
by quoonbeatz
Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: The home defeats keep coming
Replies: 44
Views: 4709

Re: REPORT: The home defeats keep coming

Isn’t that just the Premier League though? I think I stopped enjoying being in it the season we were in Europe. I was willing to buy the idea that our dominance last season might make this one more than just the typical newly promoted side’s relegation scrap, but that was extinguished pretty quickl...
by quoonbeatz
Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v West Ham - Player Ratings
Replies: 101
Views: 8128

Re: Burnley v West Ham - Player Ratings

You'd have to have not watched us for 18 months to not know that's our tactic. There were plenty of times where it worked brilliantly yesterday but there were times when he was put under pressure, not by the crowd but by taking too long so that most of the outfall were cut off. As with Muric last se...
by quoonbeatz
Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Sam Barrott v West Ham
Replies: 22
Views: 1642

Re: RATE THE REF - Sam Barrott v West Ham

Another name to add to the pile of woefully out of their depth, zero understanding of the game referees you get at this level. This guy had the the standard inability to know how to play advantage and not giving the first penalty shout, especially given where he's stood, is just rank bad.
by quoonbeatz
Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v West Ham - Player Ratings
Replies: 101
Views: 8128

Re: Burnley v West Ham - Player Ratings

A tough one to take as this was probably as well as we've played this season, with some very good performances through the team. Naivety from players but mainly from the manager has cost us, with too many subs and the wrong ones to boot. Trafford - 5 S. L. O. W. Didn't have much to do with his hands...
by quoonbeatz
Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sue or not to sue
Replies: 138
Views: 9518

Re: Sue or not to sue

Impressive straw clutching from the solicitor. Mind you, I read an article by the esk in the guardian earlier proclaiming that the non-punishment Everton have received for cheating is somehow harsh on them.
by quoonbeatz
Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton docked 10 points
Replies: 258
Views: 24307

Re: Everton docked 10 points

An absolute non-punishment. If clubs cheat, relegate them. Dead simple. Expect City to be awarded some points if their day of reckoning ever comes, that's how toothless the people in charge are.
by quoonbeatz
Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have Everton got away with their financial irregularities?
Replies: 69
Views: 7940

Re: Have Everton got away with their financial irregularities?

Looks like they'll be bottom for a week.

Lol etc
by quoonbeatz
Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Player Ratings Averages
Replies: 23
Views: 2603

Re: Player Ratings Averages

He's a good man. And thorough.
by quoonbeatz
Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:01 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?
Replies: 132
Views: 15065

Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:38 am
It’s a barometer of his value as an asset.

Very relevant.
Nope. It's a barometer of how each of those managers did at different clubs in different circumstances, and has no relevance whatsoever to how valuable an asset Kompany is to Burnley.
by quoonbeatz
Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?
Replies: 132
Views: 15065

Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:39 pm
How isn’t that relevant?

Performing at this level dictates the value of the asset. It’s literally the most relevant way.
Stats of other managers at different clubs have zero to do with it. Might as well rate their omelette as well while you're at it.
by quoonbeatz
Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?
Replies: 132
Views: 15065

Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Just to make a point I will list a few of the recent managers that have better points per game return than VK in the prem: Gerrard - 1.18 Lampard - 1.00 Dean smith - 1.18 Hassenhutel - 1.28 Marsch - 1.16 Nathan Jones - 1.07 Gary Neville (not premier league but he’s regularly mocked for his manageme...
by quoonbeatz
Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?
Replies: 132
Views: 15065

Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:55 pm
How can you come to that viewpoint?
Name a bigger one.
by quoonbeatz
Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tella
Replies: 84
Views: 8269

Re: Tella

This argument has a slight hole in it as we tried signing Maatsen throughout the summer. Early in the summer Chelsea didn’t want to sell as he was performing in pre-season, later on we’d had a £20m+ bid accepted and he didn’t want to come. I’m not sure what the club could have done? We also tried s...
by quoonbeatz
Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tella
Replies: 84
Views: 8269

Re: Tella

Think the big problem isn't having some patience with all the new wide players, it's looking at the situation that with so many of them realistically not all of them are even going to get a proper chance and we've spent so much on them. Whereas Tella feels to most of us like he would have been much...
by quoonbeatz
Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Postecoglu
Replies: 33
Views: 4214

Re: Postecoglu

Ange is a proper football man.
by quoonbeatz
Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Referee confirmed for Arsenal game
Replies: 15
Views: 1519

Re: Referee confirmed for Arsenal game

3 of the worst there, excellent news.
by quoonbeatz
Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spurs v Chelsea
Replies: 130
Views: 7770

Re: Spurs v Chelsea

They're already reviewing every goal anyway though, so I doubt there would be much difference there. Really the biggest issue with var in football, and the reason why it can never truly work, is that football is not like cricket and rugby, for example, which are stop start and are really a series of...
by quoonbeatz
Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spurs v Chelsea
Replies: 130
Views: 7770

Re: Spurs v Chelsea

I hope you are joking. Managers will use it like they use everything else, to try and win the game, either by time wasting, stopping the flow of the game etc.. You have to assume that, like players, they will cheat as often as they can to gain an advantage. Not if you limit how many times they can ...
by quoonbeatz
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spurs v Chelsea
Replies: 130
Views: 7770

Re: Spurs v Chelsea

LlandennyClaret wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:31 pm
Hints of Barnes against Chelsea …..
Exactly that. Not a foul.
by quoonbeatz
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spurs v Chelsea
Replies: 130
Views: 7770

Re: Spurs v Chelsea

They’re both nasty challenges, but I’m sure you wouldn’t be saying the Romero one isn’t a foul if they were playing against us. He knows exactly what he’s doing, horrible player. As Gary Neville pointed out first half, 4 red cards in 75 games for Tottenham, that’s not unlucky, that’s just the sort ...
by quoonbeatz
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spurs v Chelsea
Replies: 130
Views: 7770

Re: Spurs v Chelsea

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:21 pm
Oliver didn’t give it though - was sent to the monitor. Yes he wins the ball but it’s the follow through that’s done him. It’s a definite red for me.
It's still his decision even if var tell him to look at it.
by quoonbeatz
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spurs v Chelsea
Replies: 130
Views: 7770

Re: Spurs v Chelsea

Clear foul and red card. Cannot understand this opinion at all. Since when can you tackle with force shin high? You can't. But that isn't remotely what happens. Its not a tavkle dor a start, he's going to clear the ball. He kicks through ball from behind it with the side of his foot and catches the...
by quoonbeatz
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spurs v Chelsea
Replies: 130
Views: 7770

Re: Spurs v Chelsea

Udogie one is a red though. Mental they've not given that.
by quoonbeatz
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spurs v Chelsea
Replies: 130
Views: 7770

Re: Spurs v Chelsea

I'm a bit behind the times these days, but I thought a genuine attempt to play the ball (Romero's red card) was a yellow card and a penalty, not a red card and penalty. So is it a violent conduct red card? I mean, it was a bad tackle, but it was clearly an attempt to play the ball. Is there a serio...
by quoonbeatz
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spurs v Chelsea
Replies: 130
Views: 7770

Re: Spurs v Chelsea

Romero penalty isn't even a foul.
by quoonbeatz
Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: That idiot arrogant ref is at it again
Replies: 29
Views: 3869

Re: That idiot arrogant ref is at it again

Jarrow Bowen's goal at the weekend was very similar but clearly far more of a handball than Berge's was at Forest. And he scored so it didn't even need to be deliberate. Still given though.
by quoonbeatz
Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: If you could turn the clock back to last season
Replies: 21
Views: 2617

Re: If you could turn the clock back to last season

Wouldn't change last season for anything. Not really bothered how this one turns out, it was that good.
by quoonbeatz
Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Peter Bankes v Crystal Palace
Replies: 33
Views: 2632

Re: RATE THE REF - Peter Bankes v Crystal Palace

'....it's such an easy job.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: It's really easy. If you have players in your face like that, you have a red card in your pocket. They'll soon stop. Tell a keeper once to hurry up and if he delays again, book him. Its so so easy. Officials want respect...
by quoonbeatz
Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings
Replies: 73
Views: 8503

Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings

Best performance in weeks this, which tells you how bad the others were, and its no coincidence that it came when we had more of last season's team playing together. Really bright start that was shot to pieces by a ridiculous defensive error from a rusty centre half and you kind of knew that a manag...
by quoonbeatz
Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Peter Bankes v Crystal Palace
Replies: 33
Views: 2632

Re: RATE THE REF - Peter Bankes v Crystal Palace

He was good last time we had him but he was miles off that standard today. So unbelievably weak. Had 3 players screaming in his face at half time - just send them off, its easy. Allowed constant time-wasting at goal kicks or have they been instructed to stop carding for that now? At least 10 mins sh...
by quoonbeatz
Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Does Kompany own some of the club?
Replies: 54
Views: 5041

Re: Does Kompany own some of the club?

Have a day off lads. Maybe leave the house or something.
by quoonbeatz
Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Looks like we are buying Tresor
Replies: 124
Views: 9510

Re: Looks like we are buying Tresor

Was always going to take time to adapt to this level, which is why he's another example of a player who would be doing better if he was one of only a few changes from last year's team. The Belgian league is much closer to the Championship than the Premier league, which is why we had a load of player...
by quoonbeatz
Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Bournemouth brings another tough day on the road
Replies: 39
Views: 3215

Re: REPORT: Bournemouth brings another tough day on the road

Personally I think the way to have started the season would have been to give the players from last season a chance to perform at this level and to slowly introduce the new signings. Looks like we are going about it the wrong way round. Exactly how it should be done. We're doing a Fulham from a cou...
by quoonbeatz
Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Referee confirmed for Bournemouth game
Replies: 7
Views: 857

Re: Referee confirmed for Bournemouth game

In the select group at 30 means he'll never have played any proper football in in his life and will have zero understanding of the game. Nailed on to be awful.
by quoonbeatz
Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Drummers required...DRUMMERS
Replies: 378
Views: 36754

Re: Drummers required...DRUMMERS

There is nothing that is more tinpot and ruins what atmosphere there is, than a drum.

Absolutely no to this shitty idea.
by quoonbeatz
Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cards on the Table…
Replies: 204
Views: 13506

Re: Cards on the Table…

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:14 pm
Does the qualifiers for the competition count as the real competition? would that mean San Marino players could technically say they’ve represented their country in a World Cup?
Not even technically - they have. The last 32 is the finals event.
by quoonbeatz
Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Teams faced so far
Replies: 142
Views: 8430

Re: Teams faced so far

The only two results that have been wrong this season are Forest, where we were robbed of 2 points, and United, who we should really have beaten. Amdouni scores his big chance and we'd have won that. The rest we can have no complaints about. Chelsea are a good side in a false position. They won't be...
by quoonbeatz
Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dignity and respect…
Replies: 40
Views: 5705

Re: Dignity and respect…

The biggest problem with rugby is that it's not football.
by quoonbeatz
Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Al Dakhill
Replies: 66
Views: 6540

Re: Al Dakhill

Can't have been tactical cos there's no way any sane person would take him off ahead of Delcroix.
by quoonbeatz
Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Stronger 11 last season.
Replies: 150
Views: 9840

Re: Stronger 11 last season.

You can't really make a comparison, because last season's team was playing the likes of PNE and Millwall. If last season's team was playing Chelsea and City, their results would have been very different. You can definitely make a comparison if you've watched them both. It isn't true to say this sea...
by quoonbeatz
Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Stronger 11 last season.
Replies: 150
Views: 9840

Re: Stronger 11 last season.

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:46 pm
This team would win 7-0
Nope.
by quoonbeatz
Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Stuart Attwell v Chelsea
Replies: 9
Views: 846

Re: RATE THE REF - Stuart Attwell v Chelsea

He was fine. Nothing really controversial to deal with and the bookings were all justified.
by quoonbeatz
Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tresor
Replies: 24
Views: 3081

Re: Tresor

Awful 1st half and might as well have not been on the pitch in the 2nd. He's new to the country, the club and the league, and it's a steep learning curve at this level. Didn't look like he knew where he was playing today.

He does show some good touches though, going to need time.