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by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

As it stands if Forest and Everton get a 10 point deduction for last year, we still stay up with a win on the final day :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes, I know. It is tempting to hope we don’t.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

People getting their collective knickers in a twist about that VAR decision at 3-0 down having played utter w@nk again to that point is hilarious, it was hardly going to affect things Was a bad decision though wasn’t it? Think we are now all debating football dispassionately, this game was gone at ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

BHA equalise on 95 is amusing. The 3rd spot not settled yet.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

Absolutely. I don’t miss having a strong, super well organised, battling team who stays in games to give themselves a chance at all. I’d much rather have the can’t attack, can’t defend, weak midfield, hopeless goalkeeper, tippy-tappy nothingness we’ve got now. When I compare the two title winning s...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

whiffa wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:54 pm
I suspect we won't have those three players next season.
Agree. Meant from VK not those three.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

The other thing that is corrupt about this league, is that the young 30 year old ref on a work experience placement / trial (2nd game in the PL) is hardly going to upset the “company” by overruling a VAR senior official. There should be a single ref. VAR is just there to stuff the little clubs, and ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

Vinny bringing those three on at 90 minutes is arguably the biggest item of evidence for a sacking, though I remain the lawyer for the defence not the prosecution, mainly due to what to expect NEXT season.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

Interesting that the freezeframe shows the keeper is not getting that ball so it is a goal. Yet VAR denies it.

Would have been 2-1 if we take the offside at the other end too (clearly interfering) but don’t worry, it will level up by the end of the season :lol:
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bad as Laws era
Replies: 70
Views: 2865

Re: Bad as Laws era

Where it is similar is that we were crying out for experience last month to help a relegation slog and we sign 3 youngsters. Laws signed youngster Jack Cork in similar situations. The young players heads dropping has been a similar theme in both seasons, though we had more experience in 2010 and wer...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

Everton now winning after hardly having a kick all game is so Dyche.

Don’t miss it though. Glad we had it. Not the same thing.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

What a horrid league this is. That VAR delay, the tinny announcement about it, the drum. It really does make the think “why bother”. Anyway…..this really does feel like our low point. This is worse than Arsenal. What amateurish defending from Vitinho. So odd why Benny wasn’t on at 1-0 to try to grab...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

Getting to the point soon where we may throw the final game at home to Forest to get a team with a lower spend relegated with us (Luton).

Would be a crying shame for Luton but arguably the pragmatic choice.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

Biggest problem is we have a team full of them, other Premier league teams integrate the odd one or 2, not a team full, again can only blame vk for thinking he could get away with it, is he really that stupid, it's very amateur from him, nobody would believe he'd been at the top level as a player a...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

What I don’t like about this club though, and this messageboard, is the singling out of 18, 19, 20, 21 year old players. We should be better than that as supporters. Players like Odobert will have quiet games at his age. He is a talent.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

On the plus side, Everton under an experienced manager and with better players are at mid table BHA and had 0 shots at half time too.

This is a tough league and unfortunately it looks like many of us need a season below to further develop, probably including Vincent who I would keep 100%.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

Poulton-le-Claret wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:44 pm
Or Trafford could just not make that pass?
Of course that was also a shocker, just saying Brownhill was also culpable.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

ElectroClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:46 pm
Think you'd struggle to top last week in that respect.
No, this is far worse. We were OK in patches against Arsenal who were ruthless. Was on the game. Watching on US TV today.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

IanMcL wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:43 pm
They would have walked it in.
Not the point though is it? We could come back from 1-0 and have the captain for Bournemouth. It's judgement in those finer moments again, not just from the younger players.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

100% red.

Probably worst performance of season so far.

Brownhill now missing 1 or 2 games so a brainless decision from the captain given Trafford could have made the save.

Really does sum up our season in 5 seconds.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

Foster is a solid 8 every week, Fofana looks like he ranged from 4-9. That’s why we miss Lyle. Amdouni is trying to find him with flicks but he is getting well marshalled. The whole team though, Trafford aside, look like they haven’t shook off the drubbing last week. May need experience today. Or m...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

Foster is a solid 8 every week, Fofana looks like he ranged from 4-9. That’s why we miss Lyle. Amdouni is trying to find him with flicks but he is getting well marshalled.

The whole team though, Trafford aside, look like they haven’t shook off the drubbing last week. May need experience today.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

If we get drums like that my season ticket will end after 30 years, gosh how annoying it is.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 17961

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

Who was that with the backpass? JBG I thought. Shocker to give your keeper that to deal with.
by CrosspoolClarets
Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonights footy
Replies: 106
Views: 2959

Re: Tonights footy

Really pleased for ex Claret Andy Gray with his lad getting the winner.

Brings back memories but it was the departure of him and others, and the arrival of the next crop like Paterson and Thompson, which sent us to where we now are.
by CrosspoolClarets
Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonights footy
Replies: 106
Views: 2959

Re: Tonights footy

It's a shame that we'll never know how our promotion team from last season would have done in the Premier League. Agree. A shame. But the manager clearly thinks they would have failed so really who are we to doubt him? We can see Beyer, Cullen and Brownhill have struggled, to name just 3 examples.
by CrosspoolClarets
Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonights footy
Replies: 106
Views: 2959

Re: Tonights footy

Leicester are on course to finish 10-15 points higher than us last season. If it finished 2-1 Leicester are on course to finish on 105, 4 points ahead of us. We had the massive drop off when the title was won, as may they. They really aren’t anything different to what we were. But their Premier Lea...
by CrosspoolClarets
Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonights footy
Replies: 106
Views: 2959

Re: Tonights footy

Both Leeds and Leicester look far better than we were last season. Both want to attack with pace and purpose. We looked good knocking it about round the back most weeks, but it's what happens in the opposition half that counts. Leeds would need 27 goals in their last 12 games to better our goals ta...
by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
Replies: 120
Views: 5936

Re: Aaron Ramsey injury

Some odd defending of the club here, nobody that I can is hammering them, just pointing out it is an odd policy compared to other clubs and makes it hard to have conversations about players in the pub, home or workplace. The club are trying to boost engagement, all we are saying is this doesn’t help...
by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
Replies: 120
Views: 5936

Re: Aaron Ramsey injury

Hi Crosspool, I've just listened to Vincent Kompany's presser. Funny how we can hear what Vincent Kompany says and arrive at different conclusions. I've no problem with Vincent Kompany looking to further build the team to compete in the Premier League after having previously assembled a team last s...
by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
Replies: 120
Views: 5936

Re: Aaron Ramsey injury

We know he’s injured and probably won’t be back till late this year. Not sure I need to know anything more. Not really any odds to me if it’s a break, ligament damage or something else. Agree with that but for shorter term things it doesn’t help with how evasive he is now and we do seem unique at i...
by CrosspoolClarets
Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 659
Views: 61729

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

"I thought the performance wasn’t quite as bad as some do (better “touches in the box for and against” stats than Luton v Man Utd for example)" Yet the XG stat that's often used on here to justify attacking intent was around 66% less on Saturday than in those two mentioned games You’re right, and o...
by CrosspoolClarets
Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - CHELSEA v BURNLEY
Replies: 2269
Views: 144469

Re: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - BURNLEY v ARSENAL

Palace 2 Burnley 1

Anderson 45

NL2
by CrosspoolClarets
Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 659
Views: 61729

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

I also found this my favourite episode. No sugar coating, but fair. Hasn’t been some other weeks (the “it isn’t Burnley” stuff and players not trying) but that is opinions for you. I laughed out loud at one or two bits joking about how bad it was. I particularly liked the focus of criticism being th...
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Zaroury
Replies: 41
Views: 4304

Re: Zaroury

And we never will know which is really my point. As I said, I get what you say about attitudes and abilities in training but I'd be very surprised if Tresor trained like Mbappe or Ramsey applied himself like James Milner. If loyalty shouldn't come into it, he appears to be showing it to this summer...
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chris Wilder
Replies: 50
Views: 4258

Re: Chris Wilder

He's a very nice guy, I have a lot of time for him on a personal level. Yes I agree, he is a nice guy. I know him to talk to locally, wouldn’t class him as a friend, don’t know him very well, but I know people who do and they praise him. He’s a bit direct, which is a good thing in this industry. I ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Zaroury
Replies: 41
Views: 4304

Re: Zaroury

Gotta to be good for us if Anass fires, got all the ability but at times looks like intensity startles him. Certainly doesn’t appear to have the demeanour for a relegation battle, but hopefully I am wrong. One of the reasons I would have played (to a degree) Zaroury, Benson and Muric is they have he...
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton v Palace
Replies: 78
Views: 3135

Re: Everton v Palace

ClaretLoup wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:36 pm
And lost 2 - 0 so what does that tell you?
That we deserved to win of course, as Roy said at the time.
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton v Palace
Replies: 78
Views: 3135

Re: Everton v Palace

Our problem comes from lack of steel in midfield and our dismal failure by VK to recognise and respond in January Tressor and Ramsey cost millions and offer the square root of sod all to our team why we pursued both is mystery I get mocked for supporting Tresor like in the above thread, I’ve never ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Referee confirmed for Crystal Palace game
Replies: 13
Views: 1152

Re: Referee confirmed for Crystal Palace game

Excellent. Only 30 years old so young enough not to have been tainted by VAR or the intimidation from these elite clubs. Good luck to him, can’t do any worse.
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: PL Prediction League - All Fixtures and Updates - WEEK 29 PREDICTIONS
Replies: 1468
Views: 118039

Re: PL Prediction League - All Fixtures and Updates - WEEK 25 PREDICTIONS

Week 26

Saturday 24th
Aston Villa 2-1 Nottingham Forest
Brighton 2-0 Everton
Crystal Palace 1-1 Burnley Fofana 27th Minute
Man-Utd 2-1 Fulham
Bournemouth 1-3 Man-City
Arsenal 3-1 Newcastle

Sunday 25th
Wolves 2-0 Sheffield United NAP

Monday 26th
West ham 0-1 Brentford

TOTAL GOALS 21
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton v Palace
Replies: 78
Views: 3135

Re: Everton v Palace

Yet they both beat us 2 - 0 at home without getting out of second gear, that’s why we are going down Would that be the Palace game where we had 68% possession, had 17 shots to 4, 12 corners to 1? They were lucky that Beyer made an error and that we had J Rod in for Foster. I’m not convinced had we ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton v Palace
Replies: 78
Views: 3135

Re: Everton v Palace

Stacks wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:16 pm
Mcneil just ran his a** off in full sprint trying to press. Have you seen Tresor or Ramsey do that all year?
I remember Tresor racing back at full sprint against both Chelsea and Liverpool to help his defence. I don’t think he has adapted yet to the tempo, but the ridicule is, well, ridiculous.
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton v Palace
Replies: 78
Views: 3135

Re: Everton v Palace

This game is the reason I have long said there is little difference between us and these teams. Add the VAR / ref robberies and our points are similar to Forest and Palace (Dyche of course would have Everton a bit higher but for the points deduction, because of a rock solid defence, but the rest of ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton v Palace
Replies: 78
Views: 3135

Re: Everton v Palace

Had to chuckle when they jeered Dwight for doing his usual turn back towards halfway when there was a chance to dribble forward. I don’t miss the Dyche years one bit. Effective, and gets my thanks, but it wears thin after a few years and we needed a change. Just because this young team we have now h...
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Half time entertainment v Arsenal
Replies: 69
Views: 3355

Re: Half time entertainment v Arsenal

Just heard the Bee Hole podcast discuss this and they were right. It really was embarrassing. The issue I have is that it is entertainment, a day out across the country, and at times one does question is it worth it? - Mind numbing half times (contrast to the days of the assault courses and even Pie...
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton v Palace
Replies: 78
Views: 3135

Re: Everton v Palace

Strangely, if Everton fail to win this (which I doubt) then overall we had a good weekend, considering the opponents.

Palace really do look rubbish though. Must be saving it for Saturday…..
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Home games remaining for Luton and others
Replies: 3
Views: 578

Re: Home games remaining for Luton and others

Our run is pretty good if we weren't crap. We basically need to outscore Forest by 9 or 10 points by the penultimate game if the season to give us a chance on the last day. That won’t happen obviously, hence why I only included us in case of a big points deduction, in which case the battle would be...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is Relegation such a bad thing really?
Replies: 146
Views: 5277

Re: Is Relegation such a bad thing really?

It’s likely Berge, Odobert, Amdouni could all go for £20m each. Tresor for £10m. If need be, Ramsay, Trafford and co would all go for decent sums. I have no doubts the books could balance. That’s before we factor in the possible compensation claim. So I see us in a far healthier state than 20 months...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Home games remaining for Luton and others
Replies: 3
Views: 578

Home games remaining for Luton and others

Wondering what chance Luton have got to stay up (particularly if any points deductions happen. So I checked it out based on home games left. They have a great chance (of course losing at home to us and Sheffield shows it won’t be easy). Luton H - Villa, Forest, Bournemouth, Brentford, Everton, Fulha...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Top 3 hopes for next season?
Replies: 76
Views: 3136

Re: Top 3 hopes for next season?

Don’t like the negativity of assuming we are down, so…… If we stay up: 1. We finally sign that high class defensive midfield powerhouse 2. The fans start to recognise what we are up against, stop whining, and get as one with our young team 3. We begin to get our fair share of unbiased ref and VAR de...