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by KRBFC
Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?
Replies: 212
Views: 13999

Re: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?

Leeds aren't a big club because they "pushed the narrative that they're massive" though are they? They're a big club because Leeds is a really big city with an absolutely huge catchment area. Is it small minded to think that the American owners can't make us into a really big city and take away the...
by KRBFC
Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?
Replies: 212
Views: 13999

Re: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:06 am
I know how to grow a business, I've done it several times.
Come back to me when you're able to do the same.
Well I wasn't expecting a rude response from a genuine question, anyway the answer is onfield success.
by KRBFC
Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Feelings about Jay Rod
Replies: 44
Views: 5183

Re: Feelings about Jay Rod

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:39 pm
Thoughts about JRod:

3. Lucky to have him

:lol: :lol:
by KRBFC
Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Feelings about Jay Rod
Replies: 44
Views: 5183

Re: Feelings about Jay Rod

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:28 pm
Jay is Burnley through and through
I cant believe people are calling him
If he were anywhere else we would be raving about signing him
raving about signing a 32 year old with 1 PL goal all last season? I don't think so.

You said Tammy Abraham was sh!te, he's a million miles ahead of J Rod.
by KRBFC
Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Replies: 10134
Views: 1174788

Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Absolutely. Would have to dig through and can’t really be bothered but fairly sure an Irish journalist broke Collins initially and he’s just followed that on this summer and got lucky. Similar strategy with Worrall that hasn’t worked (yet). Can’t remember the original BPF source but he then linked ...
by KRBFC
Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?
Replies: 212
Views: 13999

Re: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?

It's being done alongside. We've got Collins, we've got what appears to be a decent No2 goalie. We very nearly signed young, we are trying to get Albrighton and Cornet. There are probably other things going on we haven't heard about, but the club are clearly trying to get players in. Do you know th...
by KRBFC
Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?
Replies: 212
Views: 13999

Re: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?

One of the reasons why Utd and Spurs signed South Korean players was for their marketing potential. It's one of the oldest tricks in the book but it works. Yes they had to be good enough in the first place, but part of the attraction was expanding the global brand/fanbase. If we went out and signed...
by KRBFC
Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?
Replies: 212
Views: 13999

Re: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?

Gradually we will grow from remaining in the Premier League, Everton have never been outside of the PL. What is their income compared to ours?
by KRBFC
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2 Weeks to KO
Replies: 37
Views: 3898

Re: 2 Weeks to KO

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:37 pm
Basically there's nothing wrong with the squad that £50million wouldn't comfortably fix ;)
The squad has been left to age and rot for a number of years, it's due a refresh and with the amount of players out of contract next summer it's important we start that refresh now.
by KRBFC
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2 Weeks to KO
Replies: 37
Views: 3898

Re: 2 Weeks to KO

That's true but all teams rely on their solid spine, even someone like City struggle if they've got mainstays missing, the difference is they can afford to pack their squad with multi million pound fringe players, so if they do suffer injuries they aren't as impacted as a club near the foot of the ...
by KRBFC
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2 Weeks to KO
Replies: 37
Views: 3898

Re: 2 Weeks to KO

1 injury and we can't win a game, we were absolutely appalling without Pope last year. We started without Mee/Tarkowski and were dreadful. Wood had a poor run of form and we couldn't score. We are heavily heavily reliant upon Wood, Mee, Tarkowski and Pope. If 1 of those is missing we'll struggle, if...
by KRBFC
Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Celtic in danger of crashing out of the CL early again
Replies: 50
Views: 5242

Re: Celtic in danger of crashing out of the CL early again

In what sense? Fan base? That’s all They have. The quality of their side is miles behind any premier league side, commercially Rangers and Celtic are miles behind any Premier league side. They play in a backwater league. Why do you think all the players are want to move to the premier league? You c...
by KRBFC
Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?
Replies: 212
Views: 13999

Re: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?

IanMcL wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:28 pm
Anyway 7.5m views is not to be sneezed at.
1% in shirt sales would be err...
750,000
0.1% 75000. The size of Burnley, coincidently.
:o :o :shock: :shock: :roll:
by KRBFC
Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?
Replies: 212
Views: 13999

Re: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:53 pm
Are you a Troll, or are you genuinely as naive as your posts suggest :shock: :?:
Naive to what? Which part am I missing?
by KRBFC
Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?
Replies: 212
Views: 13999

Re: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?

At the moment we probably have enough player assets in Pope, Wood and McNeil to clear a large debt should the unthinkable happen and we go down. Would you be ok with ALK selling our most expensive 3 players to pay for their debt? A debt which was taken out to pay for their shares? Why would ALK not...
by KRBFC
Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Eight Football League clubs under transfer embargo
Replies: 48
Views: 6915

Re: Eight Football League clubs under transfer embargo

There's many clubs and leagues worldwide who are financially crippled at the moment, this is where the PL riches should be cherry picking and financially bullying the poor into handing us their best assets. It's a shame we are now poor and in debt too.
by KRBFC
Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackpool & Forest friendlies available to watch on Clarets +
Replies: 161
Views: 14071

Re: Blackpool & Forest friendlies available to watch on Clarets +

So what and where have you based your judgement on? I don't think you have been watching the U23s live and they only have very limited time in the 1st X1. So I think you're a little bit silly writing them off. I think some of them are real prospects, Richardson being the main one. It's a hell of a ...
by KRBFC
Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackpool & Forest friendlies available to watch on Clarets +
Replies: 161
Views: 14071

Re: Blackpool & Forest friendlies available to watch on Clarets +

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:00 am
How much of these lads have you seen to make a judgement?
Have you been to both friendlies?
1 thing is for certain, I wont be making any judgement over a pre-season friendly.
by KRBFC
Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackpool & Forest friendlies available to watch on Clarets +
Replies: 161
Views: 14071

Re: Blackpool & Forest friendlies available to watch on Clarets +

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:17 pm
A lot of usual worry about a pre season friendly performance. Normally bodes well for the season ahead.
We lost to Accy and Chesterfield in pre-season and then went on and won the Championship title ;)
by KRBFC
Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?
Replies: 212
Views: 13999

Re: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:37 am
just remind me how many players the other teams have signed ?...............
For me, this isn't about players incoming. I think we'll get a couple of cheap players in, I'm not hitting the panic button about the transfer window yet, I'll wait until the end of the window before making judgement.
by KRBFC
Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:35 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?
Replies: 212
Views: 13999

Re: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?

Spot on, we have rolled over and had our tummies tickled, no doubt - by people with long hands and very short pockets. We have reportedly paid Garlick £102M so far, with the £60M MSD loan, a little from ALK and the rest from the clubs £42m in the bank prior to the takeover. The worrying thing is we...
by KRBFC
Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:28 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?
Replies: 212
Views: 13999

Re: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?

Why assume Chester would do that? He has been incredibly sceptical of change from the very beginning. He’d only point out something factually wrong, not the sentiment. He's an informative poster is Chester, I enjoy his contribution more than most, he appears to just have an opposite view of the tak...
by KRBFC
Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?
Replies: 212
Views: 13999

Re: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?

Instead of the club spending £90m on transfers, the club has spent £90m on new owners. Many fans on here have previously said taking out debt for new players would've been ridiculous, irresponsible etc. If we spent £90M on transfers under Garlick in 1 window and used debt for it, many would be worri...
by KRBFC
Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?
Replies: 212
Views: 13999

Re: Have we sold out to owners to take us sideways ?

We'd have been in a much better spot if Garlick used the £30m (that ALK apparently used to buy the club with it's own money) on transfers. We'd have also been in a better spot if Garlick took out a £60M loan with MSD to fund transfers. We have spent a **** ton of money from the club, we have committ...
by KRBFC
Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dale Stephens
Replies: 57
Views: 6243

Re: Dale Stephens

Source? Fee: https://www.bing.com/search?q=dale+stephens+burnley+fee&cvid=2805b0259888457a9c1b3c2c3ca77366&aqs=edge..69i57.3359j0j1&pglt=43&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=U531 Salary: https://salarysport.com/football/player/dale-stephens/ https://www.spotrac.com/epl/burnley-fc/payroll/ https://www.burnleyexpress.n...
by KRBFC
Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dale Stephens
Replies: 57
Views: 6243

Re: Dale Stephens

We paid about 2 Bob for him! What were you expecting, Messi! Not quite Leisure, £1m transfer fee. £37,500 a week = £1,950,000 per season, 2 year deal = £3,900,000 in wages. As we all know agents are heavily involved in deals, players often receive signing on fees and here at Burnley players are mas...
by KRBFC
Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackpool & Forest friendlies available to watch on Clarets +
Replies: 161
Views: 14071

Re: Blackpool & Forest friendlies available to watch on Clarets +

I don’t want to agree, but I just can’t see it any other way. With the number of players out of contract next season I really expected us to invest 4-5 1st team players this window. A couple of the lads looked promising but I think expecting them to feature more than handful of games is unfair on t...
by KRBFC
Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackpool & Forest friendlies available to watch on Clarets +
Replies: 161
Views: 14071

Re: Blackpool & Forest friendlies available to watch on Clarets +

in my opinion - Richardson, Thomas and Gomez-Mancini all involved off the bench too this season I think? You're over egging it, I don't doubt we have some good prospects and I agree about Thomas but I see nothing to suggest they're good enough for a relegation battle in the Premier League. They may...
by KRBFC
Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackpool & Forest friendlies available to watch on Clarets +
Replies: 161
Views: 14071

Re: Blackpool & Forest friendlies available to watch on Clarets +

I bet he will be buzzing after that performance, keeping Dwight in check is no mean feat. He will be having tangerine dreams if he manages to get any sleep tonight. Decent run about, but Darth Vader called it. A couple of our youngsters did okay, but nothing to suggest we can draw on our youth squa...
by KRBFC
Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackpool & Forest friendlies available to watch on Clarets +
Replies: 161
Views: 14071

Re: Blackpool & Forest friendlies available to watch on Clarets +

Gordaleman wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:26 pm
Whoever he is, he's had a great game. I'm sure Sean will have noticed.
Yeah he's had a very good game.
by KRBFC
Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackpool & Forest friendlies available to watch on Clarets +
Replies: 161
Views: 14071

Re: Blackpool & Forest friendlies available to watch on Clarets +

Gordaleman wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:15 pm
Earlier, they said they weren't allowed to name him but he's very decent and he just put in a lovely cross field pass with his LEFT foot.
It's not him
by KRBFC
Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Replies: 10134
Views: 1174788

Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Long Time Lurker wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:41 pm
Winger Options

Good post LTL, an uninspiring list though. I see Amine Harit is still at Schalke, 10m euros fee ;)
by KRBFC
Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Peacock-Farrell goes on loan to Sheffield Wednesday
Replies: 60
Views: 7428

Re: ARTICLE: Peacock-Farrell goes on loan to Sheffield Wednesday

I'm hoping he has got the wages/fee wrong though. He said it was expensive. 300k including wages is pittance. 300k is a good fee, they pay his wages, give us 300k and give him first team football, it's a win win win for us. I can't remember how much we paid for him but I'd guess 300k is around half...
by KRBFC
Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Peacock-Farrell goes on loan to Sheffield Wednesday
Replies: 60
Views: 7428

Re: ARTICLE: Peacock-Farrell goes on loan to Sheffield Wednesday

boatshed bill wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:50 pm
I think he played around half a season at about 21 yrs old
He was their first choice for a period but was replaced swiftly.
by KRBFC
Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Peacock-Farrell goes on loan to Sheffield Wednesday
Replies: 60
Views: 7428

Re: ARTICLE: Peacock-Farrell goes on loan to Sheffield Wednesday

Another transfer Nixon has called absolutely bang on, I don't understand the Nixon hate.
by KRBFC
Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Peacock-Farrell goes on loan to Sheffield Wednesday
Replies: 60
Views: 7428

Re: ARTICLE: Peacock-Farrell goes on loan to Sheffield Wednesday

superdimitri wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:55 pm
No doubt it is. But I think people are surprised that he couldn't get first team football in the championship. Not s good sign for the lad going down to league one but it's a chance to impress nonetheless.
He couldn't get first team Championship football when we signed him.
by KRBFC
Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Olympics thread
Replies: 254
Views: 15637

Re: Olympics thread

When is the 100m?
by KRBFC
Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Replies: 10134
Views: 1174788

Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

mill hill claret wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:02 pm
Peacock farrell gone to Sheffield Wednesday year long loan
Nixon called this weeks ago
by KRBFC
Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Replies: 10134
Views: 1174788

Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:03 pm
He left QPR for about £500k. I’m sure even we could’ve stretched to that if we were serious enough to enquire.
He never said we bid anything for him.....


Alan Nixon
@reluctantnicko
·
Jan 26, 2020
Burnley. Looking closely at Bright Osayi Samuel. No wonder. Poss signing for this window or next.
by KRBFC
Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Replies: 10134
Views: 1174788

Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

For every one he gets right he gets several wrong. Throw enough mud, some will stick. Wilson and Worrall last summer as examples. Linked us to Osayi Samuel, rubbish. I’m not buying these Albrighton/Cornet rumours either. I don’t think he has any links with us at all because he’s been proven time an...
by KRBFC
Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Replies: 10134
Views: 1174788

Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:08 pm
Do people still really think Nixon has a clue what’s going on at Burnley??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Wait people still believe Nixon hasn't got a clue about Burnley? CT can confirm but Nixon had deep connections for years
by KRBFC
Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Celtic in danger of crashing out of the CL early again
Replies: 50
Views: 5242

Re: Celtic in danger of crashing out of the CL early again

Not to mention if Rangers and Celtic came to England they'd likely attract huge foreign investment on top of the PL riches.
by KRBFC
Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: John Terry leaves Villa
Replies: 18
Views: 2489

Re: John Terry leaves Villa

Can't not be impressed with how he's just quietly gotten on with his coaching career, no fuss, not expected to land a managerial job straight away. Undoubtedly he's learnt a lot in the 3yrs at villa that should set him in good stead for the future. I was just gonna say that, he's done it the right ...
by KRBFC
Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Replies: 10134
Views: 1174788

Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Oh come on though. 65m down the pan? You quoted our most expensive signings ever, and even that was 30m lost. Those are just Brighton’s departures this window and not even their biggest signings 🤷🤷🤷 my point wasn't to make a comparison on the numbers, my point was we got great value out of Hendrick...
by KRBFC
Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Replies: 10134
Views: 1174788

Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:51 am
We finished 7th...

Let me know when they finish top 10
You don't win a trophy for finishing 7th though, more prize money sure. If we qualified for the Europa League, I'd agree with you.
by KRBFC
Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Replies: 10134
Views: 1174788

Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

First of all... They spent way more than 10M on Maupay. Second of all probably very few of those players are being scouted at those prices. White is, however they didn't sign him from anyone. Bissouma and Lamptey are the only ones attracting much interest. I don't particularly rate Bissouma and if ...
by KRBFC
Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Replies: 10134
Views: 1174788

Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

This is just this window: Jahanbaksh cost 18m, sold for 1m Propper cost 11m, left on a free Izquierdo cost 13m left on a free Bernardo cost 9m left on a free Locadia cost 15m been on loan to MLS for 2 years basically worthless. If we did that we’d be bankrupt and this board would be in meltdown. Gi...
by KRBFC
Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Replies: 10134
Views: 1174788

Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Yes it is and they haven't been despite having the 11th highest net spend in European football. net spend includes assets purchased but doesn't factor in what those assets are worth. Go through their squad, there's easily another £200m+ of assets, add in the potential £50m sale of Ben White. They d...
by KRBFC
Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Replies: 10134
Views: 1174788

Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

In the four seasons that Brighton & their free flowing football have spent in the Prem, they have finished in 15th, 17th, 15th & 16th. Shows they have wasted lots of money for not much gain. What do you mean not much gained? What have we gained that they haven't? Surely the objective for both clubs...