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by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610963

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Someone has asked Nixon on Twitter if there are any left backs linked with Burnley and the only answer was Maatsen. Might have all of our eggs in one basket on this one. Or Nixon doesn’t know. Berge said in his interview that he knew of Burnley’s interest for a while, but then we only knew about it...
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610963

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Commy wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:36 pm
You could previously watch them on YouTube but there is nothing there.
Press conference on YouTube now.
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610963

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:46 pm
The alternative is winning nothing at Spurs….
But he’ll live off his own personal scoring record in the Premier League.
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610963

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

claretburns wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:25 pm
According to SSN he will be going nowhere.
I’m not sure why he’d go to Bayern to be honest. Yes he’d probably pick up silverware but winning the German league with Bayern is no great achievement, think they’ve won over 50% of German league titles.
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

We got an unsolicited discussion about framing theory out of that argument's premise, and some chat about religious zeal manifesting in football, and all sorts of stuff. It's about the friends you make along the way. (Someone said earlier in the thread that a prayer circle in the longside from the ...
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Spiral wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:22 pm
Embarrassed about what?
Maybe he’s talking about you being convinced this was a Mormon sports washing exercise based on about 5 seconds of video and going in about it for days?
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

But later it does veer closer to being an enhanced 'Season in Review' (which is fine for Burnley fans) and it isn't really a documentary. I’m not sure there’s anything happening other than games though. Jack Cork comments on the repetitive nature of a football season and if all you’re doing is winn...
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Town To Turf / Culvert update Thursday 10 August
Replies: 20
Views: 1964

Re: Town To Turf / Culvert update Thursday 10 August

775claret wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:44 pm
I'm presuming there are two certificates required - a ground safety certificate and an event safety certifcate.
Just a ground safety certificate as far as I know. The public highways and byways are outside the control of the club.
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Town To Turf / Culvert update Thursday 10 August
Replies: 20
Views: 1964

Re: Town To Turf / Culvert update Thursday 10 August

775claret wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:38 pm
I'm surprised we aren't far off losing the safety certificate for tomorrow's game.
Why would council roadworks invalidate a ground safety certificate?
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610963

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

blake's wand wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:35 pm
Also agree re: Gnonto - looked on fire at times, but not sure a position we're short of. Also surprising that nobody else has come in for him
I thought Everton had been linked.
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

You can for sure and it’s great if people enjoy it! I’m just trying being objective about is a sports doc. I don’t think it’s that strong as an encapsulating storyline and I’m not so sure that anyone other than Burnley fans will rate it highly. I mean, the doc was for the neutrals and to raise our ...
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

I think taking the claret tinted specs off and being objective about it anyone would come to the same conclusion. I’d advise those that own a pair on claret tinted spectacles to keep them firmly balanced on their noses and enjoy it to the full. We’ve just had one of our best seasons ever and this i...
by martin_p
Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)

Finished it. Loved it. Think there was some great behind the scenes stuff.
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Carabao cup
Replies: 54
Views: 3964

Re: Carabao cup

Difficult to think of a less inspiring draw.
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Paddy Power advert
Replies: 137
Views: 7351

Re: Paddy Power advert

forzagranata wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:27 pm
Some Burnley fans are so desperate for recognition, any kind of mention, they'll even get excited about utterly unfunny, crude stereotypes
I’m struggling with the stereotype thing, what stereotype is it portraying exactly?
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Paddy Power advert
Replies: 137
Views: 7351

Re: Paddy Power advert

quoonbeatz wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:43 pm
I'm from Manchester.
Did you recently record an advert for Paddy Power?
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Paddy Power advert
Replies: 137
Views: 7351

Re: Paddy Power advert

Well that’s the next Burnley based Paddy Power ad sorted. It’ll betray us as humourless miserablists who can’t take a bit of gentle ribbing.
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Paddy Power advert
Replies: 137
Views: 7351

Re: Paddy Power advert

I know that but it’s all the same ignorant bo0ll0cks. & btw for anyone that’s bothered, i’m not ‘offended’ more unbelievably bored of that depiction. Surely can do something a bit better? I’m a huge Dyche fan but it would be hard to argue against ‘rigid and direct’ characterising a large part of ou...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Paddy Power advert
Replies: 137
Views: 7351

Re: Paddy Power advert

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:37 pm
Dyche and Burnley do it and it’s Brexit 442 hoofball with 11 thugs on the field… boring and extremely unoriginal.
And also not in the skit you’re getting offended by. The worst thing said about the football is it’s ‘direct and rigid’.
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Paddy Power advert
Replies: 137
Views: 7351

Re: Paddy Power advert

Thought it was funny. Understand the stereotype stuff but don't think that advert is majorly guilty of it. Many of those things were said on this very messageboard last summer and heck, you only need to read the Muric thread throughout last season to see the total hyperbole and misunderstanding peo...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Paddy Power advert
Replies: 137
Views: 7351

Re: Paddy Power advert

I won’t go all afternoon/night on this but I’ll just add - half of its ******** as well because it’s another lazy stereotype about our playstyle under Dyche that whilst not total football it wasn’t necessarily the hoofball people would have you believe. Same boring stereotypes that prevented Mee/Po...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Benson extends his stay at Burnley
Replies: 25
Views: 1913

Re: ARTICLE: Benson extends his stay at Burnley

I saw it mentioned a couple of days ago somewhere that he was about to sign a new deal - but finally confirmed this afternoon. It is, in effect, just one more year; he was already contracted for the next three years. I suspect it’s a pay rise and maybe some protection for the club in terms of a min...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson contract
Replies: 15
Views: 1323

Re: Benson contract

Excellent news!
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Paddy Power advert
Replies: 137
Views: 7351

Re: Paddy Power advert

Some people might remember the Fast Show sketch 'Julio Geordio' - which made fun of the idea of a South American/Spanish player playing for Newcastle and mixing in Geordie football cliches with broken Spanglish. That was also based on some stereotypes, as much humour is, but it was original and fun...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Paddy Power advert
Replies: 137
Views: 7351

Re: Paddy Power advert

Some people might remember the Fast Show sketch 'Julio Geordio' - which made fun of the idea of a South American/Spanish player playing for Newcastle and mixing in Geordie football cliches with broken Spanglish. That was also based on some stereotypes, as much humour is, but it was original and fun...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Paddy Power advert
Replies: 137
Views: 7351

Re: Paddy Power advert

What’s honestly so funny about repeating mindless done to death stereotypes? It’s well unoriginal So what, not many jokes are original and plenty depend on stereotypes. If you had a brighter outlook on life you might realise the whole thing is a massive complement to the club and how we’ve managed ...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Paddy Power advert
Replies: 137
Views: 7351

Re: Paddy Power advert

Some people need to lighten up, it supposed to be a joke. I thought it was funny!
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New offside rule
Replies: 16
Views: 1238

Re: New offside rule

Is an air shot not the same as an attempt? a bit similar to when I someone is in the goalies eye line ,but doesn’t actual touch the ball,and is deemed office,or interfering with play. I think this is the key passage’ If a player is considered to be in control of the pass, attempt to gain possession...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New offside rule
Replies: 16
Views: 1238

Re: New offside rule

Carwin261 wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:42 pm
So if the centre half does an air shot the forward then becomes onside again,how to make a mess of a simple rule.
No, you have to play the ball.
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New offside rule
Replies: 16
Views: 1238

Re: New offside rule

I think the clarification is around the attempt to gain possession really. So if a pass comes to you and you make an attempt to control it but miscontrol it and the ball goes to an attacker in an offside position it’ll count as deliberately playing the ball rather than a deflection and the attacker ...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 12:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New offside rule
Replies: 16
Views: 1238

Re: New offside rule

I think its the other way round in its more if a ball deflects off an attacking player either from a defender or a different attacker and would have been onside but for the deflection then this change would mean the deflection wont be considered as a deliberate play so it will still be onside. If a...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 12:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Gambling endorsements and advertisements in our game
Replies: 93
Views: 4274

Re: Gambling endorsements and advertisements in our game

There are definitely adverse heath effects with vaping. We know that because we know that nicotine is an extremely dangerous substance. The issue is that we don't know the extent of the nicotine effect with vaping, or with the other substances contained within (especially the illegally imported vap...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:45 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Gambling endorsements and advertisements in our game
Replies: 93
Views: 4274

Re: Gambling endorsements and advertisements in our game

Good post. Based on this, would I be right to assume that you would be okay seeing a return to alcohol sponsorship on shirts? Or perhaps even tobacco/vaping products? The vast majority of people around the world (who choose to) can enjoy a few drinks and the occasional cigarette, without it causing...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Gambling endorsements and advertisements in our game
Replies: 93
Views: 4274

Re: Gambling endorsements and advertisements in our game

I think at some point personal responsibility comes into this. A very, very small percentage of those who enjoy gambling become addicted and, unlike smoking, if I gamble responsibly I’m not negatively impacting the health of myself or anyone who happens to be standing near me. I don’t think it’s dow...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Wout Out Again
Replies: 108
Views: 5805

Re: ARTICLE: Wout Out Again

This notion that VK wouldn’t have played him this season seems a bit of a stretch. Let’s say Foster and Jay got injured what would we do then? Just refuse to play him? Also I haven’t followed pre season all that closely but hasn’t WW been given a decent amount of minutes? If VK has ‘sussed’ him out...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610963

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

claretandy wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:18 am
Gyokeres money is Coventry's, not sheff utd.
But it’s a great trick if you can pull it off, spending the money from another team’s player sale! I think it’s the way to go!
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Wout Out Again
Replies: 108
Views: 5805

Re: ARTICLE: Wout Out Again

I know someone who has a directors box at Hoffenheim and he has told me that due to Weghorst being such a nasty man and a bad egg that Burnley agreed to pay his wages and also pay Hoffenheim a fee of £500k to take him on for the season. If he fails to score more than five goals and upsets more than...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s Blast from our Recent Clarets Past (VII) - Alan Moore
Replies: 16
Views: 888

Re: Today’s Blast from our Recent Clarets Past (VII) - Alan Moore

Part of that brilliant few months at the end of 2001 that saw us to the Championship. Remember that as a very exciting time where, for the first time, I dared to dream we might end up in the Premier League.
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610963

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

"Sheffield United's hierarchy told Sander Berge that he would be frozen out of the squad this season if he did not leave or sign a new contract. The Norwegian was happy to stay at United this season before deciding his future next summer." ouch. That sounds unlikely. If he’d decided to stay I can’t...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Carabao cup
Replies: 54
Views: 3964

Re: Carabao cup

Tranmere away as it the nearest ground to my house!
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610963

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

I thought Coventry were ‘holding out for £15m’ for Hamer according to the reports when we supposedly bid.
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Wout Out Again
Replies: 108
Views: 5805

Re: ARTICLE: Wout Out Again

There isn’t a single Premier League manager that currently wants Weghorst and he’s actually worked for three of them. I think that’s the judgement to look at and trust.
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Wout Out Again
Replies: 108
Views: 5805

Re: ARTICLE: Wout Out Again

I presume you're going off goals scored, in which case statistically Ben Mee was a better striker in the EPL than Jay Rod and Foster over the last couple of seasons, so you've not really thought that one through. Foster has never kicked a ball in the Premier League and no one is suggesting that Jay...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Wout Out Again
Replies: 108
Views: 5805

Re: ARTICLE: Wout Out Again

Can't say I'm hugely disappointed, some fans have never forgiven him for being shouted at by Connor Roberts. The worrying thing is that we've lost our best centre forward and now find ourselves now weaker in this department than last season. Hopefully this will make room for another signing. Not su...
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Wout Out Again
Replies: 108
Views: 5805

Re: ARTICLE: Wout Out Again

We can all breathe a sigh of relief now.
by martin_p
Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Article in today's Gaurdian
Replies: 68
Views: 4839

Re: Article in today's Gaurdian

This line from the Telegraph article is going to disappoint those who were expecting the documentary to be a Mormon ‘sportswash’ exercise. ‘ “Mission to Burnley” is a nod to the fact that the owners, including Pace, are all members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints – more commonly k...
by martin_p
Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610963

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:28 am
When we say the same about Hamer it Gyokeres that doesn’t seem to matter!
Because Coventry aren’t looking to get rid of them and more than one club have expressed an interest in buying.
by martin_p
Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mission to Burnley (including spoilers from page 9)
Replies: 868
Views: 51634

Re: Mission to Burnley

eastcoastclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:50 am
Article in the Gaurdian
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... dApp_Other
Trigger warning - contains the ‘M’ word.
by martin_p
Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.
Replies: 15428
Views: 1610963

Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

If you’re looking to offload a player then their value takes an immediate massive hit.