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Oh dear

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I spoke to soon, fortunately my stream has gone down so I didn't see it.

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That will do

More desire, quicker play, crosses coming in from the wings, our strikers come alive - everything starts to look better.

Why we were chasing a right winger that doesn't create or cross is anybodies guess.

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Very poor from us. Some people on here might not like our tactics, but Steve Bruce is obviously a fan. Newcastle seem to be getting to grips with our framework, after adopting it. Hendrick cutting in to help midfield, St Maxim causing problems down the other wing ( ala McNeil ) their defenders throw...

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Do his free kicks show up on a heat map? No, but the fact that his highlight reels focus on him shooting and scoring from the centre of the pitch at fairly close range in open play ( and don't show any long rang shots apart from dead ball free kicks going in ) is quite telling. The absence of any c...

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Read that, but don't understand the loan bit, why would we do that? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8801679/Burnley-make-approach-Dundee-United-striker-Lawrence-Shankland-500-000-loan-deal.html Because he is unproven. He has scored a lot of goals, but they have all been in the Sc...

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Joe lolly being banded about now I can't see that one happening. Lolley is a good player and he strikes me as being a better fit for us than Wilson. He has done really well since he moved to Forest, becoming a firm fan favourite, and playing in front of Cash seemed to bring out the best in him. Whe...

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Of course, there's no guarantee with any investment. Burnley could get relegated - and struggle to win promotion again. Burnley could miss out on growth in value of Premier League clubs - but, that's the investment risk that the investors will be taking. Exciting times for everyone. UTC The quickes...

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You make a valid point. Chelsea openly touting Hudson Odoi, Tomori and Loftus-Cheek to go out on loan. I would take Hudson Odoi on loan. However, bringing in players on loan to shore things up is just piling up the work that we will have to do next Season. Work that we should have done this season,...

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I think we need a right midfielder to start ASAP, I don’t want to see Pieters play in midfield ever again and I don’t want to see our 2nd best central midfielder forced to play out wide. We look absolutely awful atm, the only side I would be confident of finishing above is Fulham. BOS to come off t...

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ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:34 pm
That, apparently, is where you are likely to be disappointed.

That, apparently, would be a sign of a recruitment team that is failing to do its job.

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Non of those players are good enough for the PL Ruling out players from Europe, except the really expensive and obvious ones, which is who we have been linked with. Ruling out players from other EPL teams. Ruling out older players. Ruling in players that fall within our financial constraints that c...

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The bit I don’t get is why the Americans (if they understand relegation) are not insisting we have a squad capable of surviving given they could take over and not have a window for months. One or two injuries to key people in a week’s time.....Tarky and Wood being two I’d fear. If we stay up then w...

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Lack of pace. check Lack of creativity. check etc. etc. You missed out **** recruitment on the back of heavy increased investment in that area. Similar to last season we seem to have wasted away most of the window and a lot of opportunities chasing after headline grabbers and older stop gaps. We sh...

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Two to three quid? Is the boat on Thomson Park Lake? Oops £2-3m - I suspect it would be the lower end or less ( Benson and Goodridge going the other way on loan ). Looks like we can cross Eliasson off that list as well. Off to Nimes for £2.25m. At that price we could have hardly gone wrong with sig...

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We've done right backing out if they weren't willing to budge on that valuation - no one else is paying it and I think Liverpool will regret this decision. Unlike LTL I do think Wilson would have been a good fit and an anonymous performance out of position in a disjointed rotation side doesn't chan...

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If that’s the case then not surprised we weren’t prepared to meet them. But surely the positive is that we do have at least £12m to spend (unless that was only with Tark leaving). Surely we have other targets? Niclas Eliasson - £2-3m ( left wing / right wing ) Connor Roberts - £4-6m ( right back / ...

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Honestly, from the snippets in the last couple of press conference I wouldn't be surprised if we have it in mind to go with what we have got. The idea being to risk it and regroup so we can have another go at it in the more difficult Covid Winter window. If that is the case then our foray into the W...

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Question: Would you take Eliasson (£2.7m according to reports) & BOS (£4.7m) over Watkins £16m total? That would give us cover for Dwight and JBG. Both might not be starters, as Wilson may be, but could be effective options from the bench/cover. Would also be cheaper wages-wise. I think I would in ...

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Hopefully, we have probably woken up to the fact that none of the other clubs seem to be remotely interested in signing Wilson, especially after his shop window performance last night. Leeds might have thrown a casual glance his way a few week ago, but they quickly moved on. Liverpool are rolling ou...

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Hard to believe Liverpool once attached a 30m price tag to his name and they are supposedly looking for close to 20m this time around. They are probably regretting their shop window gambit at the moment, all he had to do was look busy and score from a free kick ....... and not get them knocked out o...

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Eliasson looks like a cross machine, would be great for Wood, how much would Bristol City want do you reckon? I’m with LTL on this Wilson is a good player but very much a luxury player who we’d need to change formation for most likely. https://miro.medium.com/max/2160/0*-vsqKuS3T26lQQCr Granted, cr...

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AnfieldWatch have just reported that Leicester, Aston Villa, Fulham, Leeds, Newcastle and Southampton are all keeping an eye on him - although not sure if that's recycled information, as Leeds for instance were interested a while back, but now no longer appear to be. All it takes is 1 other Premier...

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I don't have the time atm to write a more detailed counter to your heat/shot/pass maps but IMO you're making some flawed assumptions based on the data. First off, I'm not trying to be disrespectful by truncating your post, I'm just reducing the length of my own by doing it. I agree that players wil...

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or maybe, Dyche is finally trying to add a different element to make us less predictable.......... He could be and that is were the scope for discussion can be found. What are we about, do we need to change our formation to move forward ? If Wilson isn't the answer who might be, people could sugges...

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LTL - do you not think that Burnley have analysts? Do you not think that the recruitment team and management have weighed up the risks with this potential transfer? If not, maybe you should send your heat maps to the analysisteam@burnleyfc.com? I'm sorry, I thought that this was a football forum wh...

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(b) we would play a different system to accommodate him. Nods, the only way that I can see us getting the best out of him, unless we are expecting his set piece ability to make a world of difference to our performances, is if he changes the way that he currently plays or we change the way that we c...

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Boss Hogg wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:12 pm
Posted too quick it’s gone longer again

I planned ahead and rambled away in word before copy / pasting it in. I figured splitting up all my thoughts into smaller bite sized pieces might be better. At least the repeat quotes will be shorter.

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There was talk of Leeds being after him a few weeks ago but that all seems to have gone quiet. According to the tittle tattle media Bielsa didn't think he was suitable for them. https://thisisfutbol.com/2020/09/blogs/premier-league/leeds-united-david-ornstein-claims-marcelo-bielsa-decided-harry-wil...

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Harry Wilson - Scoring https://miro.medium.com/max/875/0*PnTUsNow0KJXVB1B https://miro.medium.com/max/875/0*zaoAT3WarvEvcqmd Here is the kicker, Wilson scores lots of goals and he can take sublime free kicks. I bet those titbits of information had our Metric Mesiah drooling. If we can add those goa...

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Harry Wilson - Creating Chances https://i.ibb.co/23dLtGB/Harry-Wilson.png If we look at the chances he created at Derby and Bournemouth it isn't a pretty picture. Most of the chances he created at Derby came from the corners he took. Take those away and you get the level of production he showed at ...

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Harry Wilson - Heat Maps https://i.ibb.co/f8rLqQN/Wilson-Heat-Maps.png For anyone thinking that Wilson fits the way we play those heat maps should tell a different story. It is plainly obvious that his desire to get into the middle and shoot far outweighs his propensity for creating from the wings....

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Long Time Lurker Who do you consider are the most creative/technically strong/visionary young CENTRAL MIDFIELD players in the Championship division? That isn't an easy question to answer at the start of a season. A lot of the prime talent was in the promoted teams, like Periera at QPR ( yes, I know...

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Michael Buffer should introduce them

Lets get reeeaaaaddddyyyy to fum fum fumble!

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MACCA wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:26 pm
I'm not sure I'm too happy with person, why should the word son be used over daughter, it's as though girls are inferior to their male counterparts.

It has to be Isle of People.

To avoid any confusion just rename it Isle of Tax Dodgers.

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I want to know who "Long Time Lurker" is. We go from kids, presumably, who want to know why don't we sign Messi and Ronaldo to LTL's detailed analysis of 20 players I have never heard of. What do you actually do for a living? Are you Mike Rigg in disguise? (If that is the name of our Chief Scout.) ...

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Linked with a loan move for Reiss Nelson I mentioned this as a possibility on another thread. Here is a snippet from that post. Matt Doherty and Wolves / Arsenal / Spurs Reiss Nielson and Burnley / Arsenal Okay, all well and good, but despite replying to a previous comment what does this have to do...

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Not a link or even a recommendation but was reading an analytics report on Championship defenders last season. One name popped up as the best 'all rounder' centre half. Ball playing centre half called Cameron Carter-Vickers. 22 years old. Bournemouth were interested in him last season as a permanen...

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Is this correct from last year? Total income: £137m Expense: Wages: £87m Running costs: £17m Profit: £35m Player trading loss: -£30m Total Profit last season: £5m. Sort of, but if you are trying to get an idea of what we might have to spend int his window you have to look at other areas of the bala...

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Apparently, Arsenal are also after Roca, so if they are, then I guess he's no donkey. If we can get him at a decent price and he excels, then it would be worth having two similar players. After all, Sean likes two players for one position and we haven't had one, since Marney left. As I say, time wi...

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With links in the press this morning to both Espanyol's Marc Roca and Celtic's Ryan Christie, neither of whom would come cheap, this whole argument may be irrelevant by next week. Instead of lambasting both Sean and Mike Garlick before the window closes, why don't we just let them do their respecti...

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I think the criticism of Dwight is completely fair. He has been awful for the last 10 games and barely looked like an EPL player for most of last season. Oh, hold on a minute, he wasn't on top form in ONE match and with the exception of Taylor nobody else seemed to be either. Get a grip people, we a...

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Sorry for the re-post. I put this in the Harry Wilson thread a couple of days ago ( as a rambling response to a comment about the impact ALK might have on our scouting ), but it probably fits this thread better. I could be wrong, but I think a number of false impression are being generated. ALK only...

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Article in The Times, Saturday about "blank cheque companies" - otherwise known as Special-Purpose Acquisition Companies, SPACs. The financial media could have done better with the acronym for them. Special Purpose Investment Ventures or SPIVs for short Urban Dictionary entry for a Spiv A flashy, s...

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Throwing more money at a problem to find a solution doesn't always work. Hard work and talent are what is needed to make a difference. Relying upon the idea of spending more money to increase options is a lazy and unproductive route to a successful outcome. We didn't need to spend a fortune in this ...

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All fizzle and no pop. If things aren't working you change it - but we don't have any real options on the bench to vary our play

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Vydra off, no worse than anyone, but he isn't getting much joy - especially with high balls. Pieters at left back, Taylor left mid, Dwight right mid ( cutting in ) and Brownhill attacking midfield. Crap, we don't have much to throw in the pot in respect to changes - other than a whacky shuffle to ov...

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No penalty for me. Contact and Wood goes down so it looks like one, but when you look at it from another angle and more closely it is really soft. However, I agree a top six club would have got something. Plenty of effort from the lads, but things aren't quite clicking. Southampton are passing us of...

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Wilson is of the age we should be targetting but unless he comes on leaps and bounds the rumoured fees are probably the peak of his value. For the amount mooted and the wage it would take we could sign Oseyi-Samuel and Nathan Holland with some left over. Would they make the same instant impact? Deb...

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Personally, I know nothing about Wilson but with CIES Football Observatory valuing him at £29.9 million https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/transfer-news/harry-wilson-burnley-transfer-liverpool-18998031 then I'm more than willing to give him a chance. Especially if we get him at less than half th...

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