Think we paid c£12m for BergeAlargeClaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:07 pmOnce Kolo has a season under his belt he could be a cracker it has to be said , Berge I’m not so sure , he’s certainly decent but I’m not sure he’s a 20m+ player .
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- Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The £100 million
- Replies: 89
- Views: 3988
Re: The £100 million
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Home before the final whistle
- Replies: 121
- Views: 5346
Re: Home before the final whistle
Nah, can't really blame anyone for leaving early yesterday.
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Home before the final whistle
- Replies: 121
- Views: 5346
Re: Home before the final whistle
Finances were never discussed before apart from during Covid when Garlick was forced to comment, so not sure why or what they’d need to say. Again, last season, when we were winning, there were no comments on disassociation or being detached. The club did an amazing job on the documentary and fans ...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Is Relegation such a bad thing really?
- Replies: 146
- Views: 5280
Re: Is Relegation such a bad thing really?
It all depends on whether we get promoted in a season or possibly two. Whilst it would be a failure if we didn’t, there's obviously no guarantee it would happen, and it's hard to see what resources we will have next season. If we don't swiftly get promoted it will be a very bad thing.
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Home before the final whistle
- Replies: 121
- Views: 5346
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:54 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Which team wins
- Replies: 63
- Views: 2143
Re: Which team wins
Appreciate that view and it’s a good point albeit the counter is that here we are cherry picking an injury hit, confidence hit team that just got well beaten against one of the best teams in the world. It’s a difficult one cause we haven’t seen this team have 5 games in a row against poor teams who...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:52 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Which team wins
- Replies: 63
- Views: 2143
Re: Which team wins
Muric Roberts THB Beyer Maatsen Cullen Cork Benson Brownhill Zaroury Barnes Trafford Assignon O'Shea Esteve Delcroix Berge Brownhill Ramsey Amdouni Odabert Fofana Which team wins the game? How have we managed to get so much worse?? It's a close call. I'd lean towards the former. But it's a moot poi...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:47 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Which team wins
- Replies: 63
- Views: 2143
Re: Which team wins
Let’s make the comparison a bit fairer and use the team that lost 5-2 at Sheffield United mid season and had some injuries ——————Muric Vitinho THB Beyer Maatsen —————Cork Cullen Benson——Bastien—Zaroury ——————-Tella Which team wins? The one that should have got a point at Anfield or the one that got...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:27 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cowards
- Replies: 76
- Views: 4743
Re: Cowards
I labelled Trafford a coward a couple of weeks ago and was shot down by the usual crowd. Seems more and more people are finally waking up to what i’ve been telling them for months. It seems more and more people see that there is a case for starting Muric over Trafford. There is and has been for a w...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:19 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: If we'd signed no-one else?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 785
Re: If we'd signed no-one else?
I get that, but we obviously wouldn't have let the players go out on loan that we did. I'm not suggesting for a minute that squad would be good enough, but fewer than a paltry 13 points? I think the simple answer is we're probably getting relegated with the current squad and would've done without t...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:08 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: If we'd signed no-one else?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 785
Re: If we'd signed no-one else?
If we'd have signed nobody else our injuries would have been even more of a problem.
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:13 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Home before the final whistle
- Replies: 121
- Views: 5346
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:07 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The £100 million
- Replies: 89
- Views: 3988
Re: The £100 million
The sheer cult like status some fans hold VK in , they’re simply unable to offer a critique of this shocking season or the staggering failure of the players thus far. As an eternal optimist I’m somehow hoping we can get serious points in our next 4 “winnable games “ and this allied to the possible ...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Next 10 games
- Replies: 128
- Views: 5040
Re: Next 10 games
I'm not Newclaret. By linking it to jdrobbo's sponsorship, it would be particularly sensitive if the loser didn't pay the cash.
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Next 10 games
- Replies: 128
- Views: 5040
Re: Next 10 games
I absolutely would. It's here for all to see. Deal?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:34 pmAfter Newclaret bottled his lost bet last time I’m ok thanks.
As I know exactly what will happen, you won’t come through when I win but if I lose il be bullied by multiple posters to go through with
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Next 10 games
- Replies: 128
- Views: 5040
Re: Next 10 games
Shall we have a friendly bet for charity - say £20 sponsoring jdrobbo for the London Marathon?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:28 pmNo chance we get anything from Brentford, Wolves, Everton or Brighton
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Vincent Kompany...
- Replies: 69
- Views: 4286
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Vincent Kompany...
- Replies: 69
- Views: 4286
Re: Vincent Kompany...
Pick your poison. I'd prefer some composure and leadership in game and to really make a point when afforded the opportunity with a well thought, articulated point. Not going mad at the forth official - maybe a bit less of that and a bit more of actually managing the team? They all do it. As we've j...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
- Replies: 601
- Views: 15939
Re: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
Much more likely than us being contractually bound.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:53 pmThe other possibility is that 2 changes, Fofana and Rodriguez for Foster and Amdouni, is too much.
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Vincent Kompany...
- Replies: 69
- Views: 4286
Re: Vincent Kompany...
Never said that. Sure there's a better way than getting carded though? Think making some proper points in a presser would be more poignant than going at the 4th official as well. Surely it's more understandable, and certainly not embarrassing, that Kompany reacted instinctively in the moment, rathe...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
- Replies: 601
- Views: 15939
Re: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
Anything is possible contractually providing the two parties agree. Very unlikely though I'd have thought.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:49 pmIs it possible that VK is contractually bound to play Fofana ?
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Vincent Kompany...
- Replies: 69
- Views: 4286
Re: Vincent Kompany...
Bound to lose his cool from time to time. Like many other PL managers.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:44 pmHmm, I'd prefer more making a point in pre game / post game pressers and not getting booked on the side of the pitch when he's got a team to manage.
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Vincent Kompany...
- Replies: 69
- Views: 4286
Re: Vincent Kompany...
Not embarrassing. As said, Dyche had the same punishment today.
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?
- Replies: 71
- Views: 3693
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?
- Replies: 71
- Views: 3693
Re: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?
There remains a strong case for Muric to start.
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Trafford individual errors/points lost
- Replies: 63
- Views: 3003
Re: Trafford individual errors/points lost
You hadn't said.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:08 pmWe're a much better unit with Muric between the sticks and that's a fact.
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s games
- Replies: 41
- Views: 1836
- Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Did we change too much or too little?
- Replies: 84
- Views: 3251
Re: Did we change too much or too little?
Changed too much but crucially got the balance wrong in terms of the players/positions we signed and too much focus on potential (including possible growth in value) over experience.
- Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:04 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: My Prostrate Diagnosis
- Replies: 65
- Views: 3011
Re: My Prostrate Diagnosis
Best wishes, beddie. All the best with the operation when it arrives and your recovery. It's probably a good time to remind the over 40s on here who haven't had a PSA test of the Barry Kilby Prostate Cancer Appeal: https://bkpca.mypsatests.org.uk/. There are upcoming testing events locally on 23 Mar...
- Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:35 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Season Tickets
- Replies: 55
- Views: 4213
- Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:19 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match presser
- Replies: 183
- Views: 8340
Re: Post match presser
Mourinho
- Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:54 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
- Replies: 129
- Views: 6519
Re: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
You said this you dimwit.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:29 am'And I certainly wouldn't give any player a few seasons to adapt whilst getting in the starting eleven on a regular basis.'
yet the manager did
- Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:43 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
- Replies: 129
- Views: 6519
Re: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
are you being daft on purpose T ? he's been here virtually the same time as Vitinho and despite you saying you wouldn't give him a few years Kompany has played him 51 times in the league over the period. Kompany joined 14th June 2002 Vitinho joined 28th July 2022 No I'm not being daft. You said the...
- Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:33 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
- Replies: 129
- Views: 6519
Re: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
I've no idea what you're on about. Our manager has only been here two seasons.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:29 am'And I certainly wouldn't give any player a few seasons to adapt whilst getting in the starting eleven on a regular basis.'
yet the manager did
- Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:55 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
- Replies: 129
- Views: 6519
Re: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
Did what?Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:49 amyet the guy with more football knowledge than all of us did......
- Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:37 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
- Replies: 129
- Views: 6519
Re: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
That's as maybe, but it's pretty common for young foreign lads to struggle in their first few seasons in English football, especially in the PL. Like I said, you very often see very expensive players have exactly the same issues - Gvardiol was absolute crap against Forfana and he cost 80+ million a...
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Current first team squad
- Replies: 23
- Views: 1693
Re: Current first team squad
Yep, goes without saying reallydougcollins wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:21 pmIsn't the value of the players very much related to our place in the top division?
Nothing will drop the stock value quicker than relegation.
Staying in the PL would have been a better plan.
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Q and A Sessions with VK
- Replies: 90
- Views: 4043
Re: Q and A Sessions with VK
If the club don't want supporters clubs doing these events and collections at the club, could they not arrange to hold them away from the ground. Food collections points on the way to the ground, or in the local pubs. Player of the year event could be held elsewhere, or would the club ban the playe...
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Loan players - Stay or Go
- Replies: 30
- Views: 1845
Re: Loan players - Stay or Go
Roberts won't come back
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
- Replies: 129
- Views: 6519
Re: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
Isn't this why we have brought in Assignon? Presumably, he thinks Taylor is good enough on the other side... either that or we just failed to land his replacement this window, once we knew Maatsen wasn't coming. We should've strengthened those positions in the summer, not in January. I've no idea w...
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
- Replies: 129
- Views: 6519
Re: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
Agree. But Roberts was having a pretty awful season prior to being dropped (like most of the team) Would have been interesting to see how Roberts would have fared as we started to improve and concede less goals and chances. Vitinho is just not good enough - it’s a long time since I have seen a burn...
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
- Replies: 129
- Views: 6519
Re: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
Vitinho is barely good enough to play right back in the Championship. Pretty irrelevant what we paid for him in the context of needing to play our best eleven or to strengthen in postions of weakness. Roberts should've been starting ahead of him.
- Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Actual Transfer News - NO BICKERING or pointless debates...
- Replies: 386
- Views: 50969
Re: Actual Transfer News - NO BICKERING or pointless debates...
Time will tellPremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:17 pmI totally get that, but no model is perfect. Look around at what goes on at other clubs and I think we can count ourselves fortunate.
- Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Actual Transfer News - NO BICKERING or pointless debates...
- Replies: 386
- Views: 50969
Re: Actual Transfer News - NO BICKERING or pointless debates...
Our model, especially financially, will inevitably be a cause for concern for some supportersPremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:58 pmIt’s interesting how people see things differently. I think this is a great time to be a Burnley fan. All depends what you value most as a supporter I suppose.
- Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Berge
- Replies: 22
- Views: 3576
Re: Berge
Utter garbageQuickenthetempo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:51 pmDon't get sent off playing for Vinny.
You don't seem to play much afterwards.
- Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany's Signings (Complete List)
- Replies: 218
- Views: 7667
Re: Kompany's Signings (Complete List)
I literally put " I agree 100% that they got the balance wrong on this though, they should have signed 3 or 4 of these rough diamonds and the rest should have been more experienced." that's a short term view though, how does the club (or clubs our size) grow so at some point it can get into the PL ...
- Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany's Signings (Complete List)
- Replies: 218
- Views: 7667
Re: Kompany's Signings (Complete List)
You asked a question about growth and competing in the PL. So I answered you do both - a better mix between youth and experience.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:26 pmyeah that's pretty much exactly what I put ! Staggering how badly wrong they got it though
- Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany's Signings (Complete List)
- Replies: 218
- Views: 7667
Re: Kompany's Signings (Complete List)
Why would I disagree with them? I can't possibly know whether they'd be a success and neither can you. I can give my opinion, I do know that we were heavily linked with Lokonga and Townsend was with us, the recruitment team chose neither. Many on here would have wet themselves if we'd signed Barkle...
- Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany's Signings (Complete List)
- Replies: 218
- Views: 7667
Re: Kompany's Signings (Complete List)
that's a short term view though, how does the club (or clubs our size) grow so at some point it can get into the PL and complete properly ? I agree 100% that they got the balance wrong on this though, they should have signed 3 or 4 of these rough diamonds and the rest should have been more experien...
- Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany's Signings (Complete List)
- Replies: 218
- Views: 7667
Re: Kompany's Signings (Complete List)
The reason why we didn't buy proven Premier League quality is because we have put our emphasis on buying young 'rough diamonds' in the hope that enough of them will turn into successes and will be sold at a huge profit. No doubt that may give us financial success, but it clearly won't keep us in th...