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- Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wigan Points Deduction
- Replies: 135
- Views: 12882
Re: Wigan Points Deduction
The point about any competitive sport is that success for one club/team/individual is inevitably (although not obviously) reflected in poorer outcomes for their competitors. The fans of every other club in competition with Wigan have already (in effect) had a potential points deduction because Wiga...
- Wed Jun 07, 2023 4:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wigan Points Deduction
- Replies: 135
- Views: 12882
Re: Wigan Points Deduction
If a club sign a player who is later found ineligible to play for that club under normal circumstances they get points docked for those matches where said player was involved. Should they be allowed to keep those points as it wasn't the supporters fault. As for Man City, their supporters are quite ...
- Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:48 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Weghorst
- Replies: 485
- Views: 46644
Re: Weghorst
Yes it would but I didn’t realise he’d scored that many either. Nice attempt at sarcasm though but back to the drawing board, try harder next time.what_no_pies wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:42 amIf he hadn't played that many games for his his goals per game ratio would be even higher.
- Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:44 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wigan Points Deduction
- Replies: 135
- Views: 12882
Re: Wigan Points Deduction
You can't promote everybody. If we say that the fans of dishonest, cheating clubs should get the benefit of the cheating, then we're also saying that the fans of honest clubs should suffer the negative consequences of their honesty. It is of course impossible to prove that money bought success on o...
- Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Maatsen on Burnley
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2723
Maatsen on Burnley
Apologies if this has been mentioned (couldn’t see it anywhere) but great interview with Maatsen on Chelseafc.com. He absolutely loved his time here. Loves working with VK and said he felt at home straight away. Give it a read. Called it ‘a beautiful season’.
- Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Weghorst
- Replies: 485
- Views: 46644
Re: Weghorst
Was Wood one in three then. I stand corrected. I didn’t realise he played that many games for us.ClaretPete001 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:09 pmThank goodness someone else thinks that 49 in 144 is 1 in 4 - I thought it was just me.
- Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lesser-known songs
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1977
Re: Lesser-known songs
Ray Davies "Imaginary Man" Great record https://youtu.be/StAvRDRzB8Q From Working Mans Cafe. A great album. I Love One More Time from that album but it’s full of great songs. The Morphine Song is great too. Not too many people I talk to know the album at all. Big up to your choice too, Davies with ...
- Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Weghorst
- Replies: 485
- Views: 46644
Re: Weghorst
Timo Werner 19 goals in 37 Germany 34 goals in 45 Germany 12 goals in 52 England 11 goals in 37 England Let's hope we don't judge this guy on his record in Germany and spunk a load of cash on him 23 in 89 is not a bad return actually. It’s slightly better than one in four which is about what Wood w...
- Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Weghorst
- Replies: 485
- Views: 46644
Re: Weghorst
So he struggled because of Dyche not due to the league itself and to further back your point up you want to ignore his spell at United houseboy ? Not because of Dyche but because of the style of play…..possibly. And I didn’t ‘ignore’ his spell at United I said I didn’t know what had gone on there a...
- Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:50 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Weghorst
- Replies: 485
- Views: 46644
Re: Weghorst
I’m not ignoring anything. I’m saying : 1) the World Cup can often give a false impression as to how a player will perform at club level 2) it is a big risk and a lot of money based on his current salary for any premier league club to buy Weghorst given how he has played in this league so far. Not ...
- Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wigan Points Deduction
- Replies: 135
- Views: 12882
Re: Wigan Points Deduction
Couldn’t agree more but until there are better safeguards regarding some of these owners then these issues will continue at clubs. Agreed totally. I don’t have the answers. I think though the other problem is it only seems to be relatively small clubs who get punished in this way. Clubs with financ...
- Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wigan Points Deduction
- Replies: 135
- Views: 12882
Re: Wigan Points Deduction
Punishing muti-billionaires in some cases, will mean nothing to their finances. So a pointless exercise. And secondly, how do you bar dodgy owners from owning a football club if there are no buyers for that club? I cannot disagree with you but I do know that punishing fans and the club whilst the g...
- Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wigan Points Deduction
- Replies: 135
- Views: 12882
Re: Wigan Points Deduction
If it's wrong to make the fans suffer points deductions because of the illegal payments, then by definition it must be wrong to let them celebrate points "earned" because of the illegal payments. Wigan won promotion last year, while (and presumably because of) spending money they didn't have. Logic...
- Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Weghorst
- Replies: 485
- Views: 46644
Re: Weghorst
To come on as sub yep ! In all seriousness you just can’t go off the world cup and any international football as a yardstick for whether they are good enough for premier league or not. There’s countless examples of clubs buying a player who has had a great international tournament at over inflated ...
- Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Weghorst
- Replies: 485
- Views: 46644
Re: Weghorst
How do you know it didn't work between Dyche and Weghorst? Largely because his strike rate in a major league was spectacular until he had to play Dycheball. I don't know what happened at United because I don't really care but his goals in Holland, Germany and Turkey were there for all to see. And a...
- Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Weghorst
- Replies: 485
- Views: 46644
- Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wigan Points Deduction
- Replies: 135
- Views: 12882
Re: Wigan Points Deduction
I find it rather sad that many on here seem to be happy, or at least not in the least bit sad, that a football club, with fans and a community, are in desperate trouble. Almost making fun of it. Points deductions are wrong, I've said it before and I will keep on saying it, because it punishes the fa...
- Wed May 31, 2023 11:45 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Full Sleeve Tattoos
- Replies: 73
- Views: 4795
Re: Full Sleeve Tattoos
Each to their own but nothing would ever persuade me to have a tattoo, let alone the full sleeve type. Never in even the most drunken stupor have I ever even considered it. I personally see it as disfigurement. If those with sleeve tats feel a bit silly when they do go out of fashion it’s their own ...
- Tue May 30, 2023 9:56 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Congratulations Sean Dyche
- Replies: 212
- Views: 10266
Re: Congratulations Sean Dyche
Congrats to Sean definitely but I am disappointed they stayed up yet again by the skin of their teeth. They have toyed with relegation too long and though I have no dislike for them they need a relegation to re-group I think. Super goal that kept them up though.
- Thu May 25, 2023 10:44 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: After the Dobbo article
- Replies: 56
- Views: 2926
Re: After the Dobbo article
Paul Fletcher
- Fri May 19, 2023 1:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Songs You Play Over & Over
- Replies: 80
- Views: 2940
Re: Songs You Play Over & Over
Too many but:
Whiteman - Roy Harper
Boys of Summer - Don Henley
Days - The Kinks (or Kirsty Mcoll’s cover)
Echoes and Comfortably Numb - Pink Floyd
Sound of Silence - Simon & Garfunkel
Refugees - Van der Graff Generator
To be honest I could be here all day.
Whiteman - Roy Harper
Boys of Summer - Don Henley
Days - The Kinks (or Kirsty Mcoll’s cover)
Echoes and Comfortably Numb - Pink Floyd
Sound of Silence - Simon & Garfunkel
Refugees - Van der Graff Generator
To be honest I could be here all day.
- Thu May 18, 2023 12:00 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Coldplay - Etihad
- Replies: 28
- Views: 2191
Re: Coldplay - Etihad
I’ll be there. Day before my birthday coincidentally. My daughter got four tickets the day they went on sale. She came to our house and waited till they went on sale. Joined the online queue twenty minutes before they went on sale and was about twenty thousandth (literally) in the queue. They are go...
- Wed May 17, 2023 11:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 100 years ago today
- Replies: 22
- Views: 2070
Re: 100 years ago today
The speedway / stock car track basically followed the touchlines and bye lines with the corners "rounded off" Aah yes. I can get that. Wondered if it might take a bit of physical alteration. It also answers another question: what was viewing like at a game with a speedway track there? Answer: there...
- Wed May 17, 2023 11:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 100 years ago today
- Replies: 22
- Views: 2070
Re: 100 years ago today
Can I just ask, in my ignorance, how the hell did they have speedway there, it looks square. I know they did of course but I’m struggling to work out from that pic where the track was.
- Wed May 17, 2023 11:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bradley Dack and Ben Brereton
- Replies: 41
- Views: 4488
Re: Bradley Dack and Ben Brereton
Ask any Rovers fan and they will tell you Brereton is actually sh!te. Yes he scores a few goals but apparently offers nothing and ‘disappears’ for long periods of the game. Their best period of the season was actually when he wasn’t playing.
- Wed May 17, 2023 11:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pizza Toppings
- Replies: 41
- Views: 1925
Re: Pizza Toppings
I like most things, especially a bit of spicey, but pepperoni with mushrooms is excellent.
I must say though that although I like both sweetcorn or pineapple shouldn’t be within a mile of a pizza. And stuffed crusts don’t exist in Italy to the best of my knowledge.
I must say though that although I like both sweetcorn or pineapple shouldn’t be within a mile of a pizza. And stuffed crusts don’t exist in Italy to the best of my knowledge.
- Wed May 17, 2023 11:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tonight's Footy
- Replies: 87
- Views: 4268
Re: Tonight's Footy
Why do some people some people think Luton going up would be better for us than Boro? They finished third, 5 points ahead of Boro, with far better recent form. They might struggle in the PL, but so would Boro, and so might we. Take Akpom out of that Boro team and they are ordinary at best.
- Tue May 16, 2023 10:49 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Least favourite Burnley players
- Replies: 146
- Views: 6896
Re: Least favourite Burnley players
Don’t quite see the point of this thread given some Clarets pre-disposition to criticising and a seemingly illogical tendency toward hating some individuals/clubs. It seems obvious that Weghorst is going to be mentioned a lot but given that VK has said he is going to have talks with him (good) to se...
- Mon May 15, 2023 3:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Our season
- Replies: 15
- Views: 2282
Re: Our season
At Ewood they wouldn’t have scored if we were still playing now. On run of play they got exactly what they deserved, beaten by the Champions. As others have said we deserved to lose one game all season at Sheff U. WBA needed a last minute scabby equaliser so I would also suggest that wasn’t a game ...
- Mon May 15, 2023 10:45 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Our season
- Replies: 15
- Views: 2282
Re: Our season
Apart from the obvious at Bramhall there were one or two where we got a result against the run of play. WBA comes to mind and, dare I say it, Ewood. We could have lost either of those on run of play but, thankfully, we didn’t. And although I didn’t see it I believe Coventry away was a bit nervy. It’...
- Tue May 09, 2023 11:12 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Should they stay or should they go?
- Replies: 169
- Views: 9003
- Mon May 08, 2023 10:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Should there be a designated Cocaine room in the CFS
- Replies: 127
- Views: 7761
- Mon May 08, 2023 10:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Should there be a designated Cocaine room in the CFS
- Replies: 127
- Views: 7761
Re: Should there be a designated Cocaine room in the CFS
42 and never done recreational drugs. Never smoked either Just to add some balance. To be honest I am a lot older but have never smoked cigarettes. I think many younger (I use the term loosely 😊) people use drugs a lot less than my generation did. Personally my belief is that it is each to his or h...
- Mon May 08, 2023 10:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Should there be a designated Cocaine room in the CFS
- Replies: 127
- Views: 7761
Re: Should there be a designated Cocaine room in the CFS
I had a thought reading this thread. Much condemnation about drug use coming from a bunch of guys whose average age puts them as part of the ‘swinging sixties’. Statistically there is a better than average chance many of them have indulged in the past (given that it seemed more did than didn’t back ...
- Mon May 08, 2023 10:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Barnes parting gift
- Replies: 18
- Views: 3744
Re: Barnes parting gift
Daft question - of course he’s a claret hero. It was ball to hand in any case. No guarantee Rovers would score either. 10 years of service is not undone by a potential ball to hand penalty which could have lengthened the pain of not getting promotion again for Rovers I’m not questioning his overall...
- Mon May 08, 2023 10:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Rovers miss out on the playoffs on GD - Hand of Barnes
- Replies: 21
- Views: 2834
Re: Rovers miss out on the playoffs on GD - Hand of Barnes
If it was accidental, as I think it was, then he is no hero because he didn’t intend it. If it was intentional then it was stupid because Muric had it fully covered and he could have cost us two points. Either way it’s not in any way ‘heroic’. If we are going to beat Rovers I’d prefer to do it witho...
- Mon May 08, 2023 10:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Barnes parting gift
- Replies: 18
- Views: 3744
Re: Barnes parting gift
I think it’s a bit odd that some fans hatred of Rovers runs to celebrating one of our players getting away with handball in the penalty area. I’d like to think it was accidental as there was no need to do it intentionally as Muric had it fully covered behind him. But just supposing the ref had given...
- Mon May 08, 2023 9:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bstrds & Millwall
- Replies: 22
- Views: 2955
Re: Bstrds & Millwall
Hell, I read curled one out there. I thought I didn’t see him have a sh!t on the pitch.scouseclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 7:00 pmIf only Manuel Benson hadn’t curled in one of his specials the other week…
- Mon May 08, 2023 9:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Stewards
- Replies: 106
- Views: 6971
Re: Stewards
Twice. Orient and last game of ‘74 at Deepdale when we got the point we needed for…well I never… the second division/Championship champions trophy.durhamclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 8:48 pmOnly once at the Turf, beating Barrow in the Lancs senior cup,
Once away, that famous night at York.
- Mon May 08, 2023 11:10 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: VK Contract
- Replies: 127
- Views: 9493
Re: VK Contract
Was very busy yesterday and only just seen this this morning. Just browsing the BBC sport app for anything Burnley related and actually did a full blown double take on the headline. Someone posted about ‘500 good news’ posts but what do they expect. It’s not just good news, it’s the best. Couldn’t b...
- Thu May 04, 2023 2:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: How many old 'uns/over 60's post on here?
- Replies: 167
- Views: 7557
Re: How many old 'uns/over 60's post on here?
By the way you mentioned people from school there, I often wonder how many are still around. I know Hawkeye went quite young and I think Mick Byrne is gone. Only person I see now is John Winfield (who I went through primary with too) but I only see him when someone dies cos he owns Fred Hamers.
- Thu May 04, 2023 2:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: How many old 'uns/over 60's post on here?
- Replies: 167
- Views: 7557
Re: How many old 'uns/over 60's post on here?
Hi Ian, I wasn't actually the oldest in our year, that was Ewan. I think his birthday was the 6th. Also Janet Bridge who was a day older than me and Gus Hargreaves who was a day younger. I used to run a bit up til nearly 8 years ago when I broke my hip cycling. I finally had a replacement OP last A...
- Thu May 04, 2023 2:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 63 years ago today
- Replies: 54
- Views: 3383
Re: 63 years ago today
Yeah I know.
- Thu May 04, 2023 12:46 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 63 years ago today
- Replies: 54
- Views: 3383
Re: 63 years ago today
Just tickles me how people have no issue with Southampton (as a random example) but we've won more than them and yet we get stick, makes no sense I have the same issue with West Ham. Always touted as a big club but silverware haul isn’t great and they have never been champions of England...ever. Al...
- Thu May 04, 2023 12:28 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Gordon Lightfoot RIP a great singer songwriter
- Replies: 26
- Views: 1781
Re: Gordon Lightfoot RIP a great singer songwriter
The very, very haunting "The wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald". Worth reading the story about this tragedy if you're remotely interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vST6hVRj2A I think I have a listen to this about once every few weeks. As you say a truly haunting account of a real tragedy. Supe...
- Thu May 04, 2023 12:17 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Gordon Lightfoot
- Replies: 1
- Views: 259
Re: Gordon Lightfoot
Apologies. Didn’t realise there had been a thread already. Only found out tonight.
- Thu May 04, 2023 12:16 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Gordon Lightfoot RIP a great singer songwriter
- Replies: 26
- Views: 1781
Re: Gordon Lightfoot RIP a great singer songwriter
Apologies for missing this thread. I started one earlier.
- Thu May 04, 2023 12:13 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Gordon Lightfoot
- Replies: 1
- Views: 259
Gordon Lightfoot
Just read tonight that Gordon Lightfoot died on Monday aged 84. Writer of some superb songs with an easy almost lazy vocal style. If You Could Read My Mind is probably his most famous, along with Sundown, and my personal favourite, the epic The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, the true story of the s...
- Wed May 03, 2023 9:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: How many old 'uns/over 60's post on here?
- Replies: 167
- Views: 7557
Re: How many old 'uns/over 60's post on here?
70 in Septober. 😆 Hey bud,if you’d been a few days older we wouldn’t have been in the same year. Seems a long time since Beaumont, Grocott and the like were hitting us with sticks and trainers. Can still see the shock on Beaumonts face when I came second in the school cross country once. I wonder w...
- Wed May 03, 2023 9:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: How many old 'uns/over 60's post on here?
- Replies: 167
- Views: 7557
Re: How many old 'uns/over 60's post on here?
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Exactly the same here bud. 69 on 1st June. Be at Etihad the night before to see Coldplay. Should be more fun than watching Burnley play there.