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by Vegas Claret
Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton - 2 more points deducted.
Replies: 72
Views: 4471

Re: Everton - 2 more points deducted.

I don't know why people consistently compare Everton's charges to Man City's.
by Vegas Claret
Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Relegation
Replies: 76
Views: 4929

Re: Relegation

we will have the pick of the bunch from Chelsea and City when it comes to loans. We will fill all 5 slots and be fine.
by Vegas Claret
Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 'The Project'...
Replies: 58
Views: 2516

Re: 'The Project'...

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:35 pm
That's what I suspect as well. Risk free now for them, sh1t or bust, for want of a better term.
not for the manager though, his managerial career will go one of two ways.
by Vegas Claret
Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 'The Project'...
Replies: 58
Views: 2516

Re: 'The Project'...

Certainly not triggered :D I used 'project' metaphorically and somewhat humorously to try and summarise how posters think the outcome of ALK's time with the club will play out, which so far, has been quite a mixed bag. I wasn't particularly pointing fingers on here, it's every supporter base especi...
by Vegas Claret
Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 'The Project'...
Replies: 58
Views: 2516

Re: 'The Project'...

Every club uses the word 'project'

Imagine being triggered by the word 'project'
by Vegas Claret
Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next 2 seasons
Replies: 29
Views: 1851

Re: The next 2 seasons

Sutton-Claret wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:54 pm
I don't want to go back to the Premier league......
we've gone from one of if not the most enjoyable seasons I've ever been lucky to witness to one of the worst :cry:
by Vegas Claret
Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next 2 seasons
Replies: 29
Views: 1851

Re: The next 2 seasons

We all have our dreams. I’ve always wanted to go out with Natalie Portman. Our life would be like an endless reel of perfume adverts. We’d go romping through summer meadows, laughing and loving each other’s company, take sunset walks on the beach. That kind of thing. Constantly. I’d casually introd...
by Vegas Claret
Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

Bedtime here so I'll be quick. I know you are not trying to put words in my mouth ,and maybe Kompany will learn over time , but on this season's evidence he will be nowhere near as good as those you mention. I believe he's been found out at the highest level unlike those on your list and I do not e...
by Vegas Claret
Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

Ok Vegas, I hope I didn't insult you. Sounds like you weren't used to playing in many winning teams in your playing days 😊. My experience of sport is the complete opposite and I had a lot of success as a team player , captain and manager. Maybe that's why we see things different. A team can be guil...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

I don't think we are on the same page here. You don't think the high number of goals we have conceded at the end of both halves has been been a recurrent problem of lack of discipline . I wish it was the odd worldy we were talking about and suspect maybe you haven't played sport much. Apologies if ...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

Nothing you can do about situations like that but I would say majority of goals we have conceded just before or just after half time have been from our own mistakes same for loads of teams that concede at the end of both halves, Man Utd being the prime example recently. Ten Hags fault a player dive...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v B@stards play off final
Replies: 32
Views: 2771

Re: Burnley v B@stards play off final

it would be at Wembley and it would be borderline unmanageable for the police, I hope it never happens.
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

Elizabeth wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:16 pm
We will have to disagree about how significant the timing of goals are when looking at a team's discipline
if a 70 million pound footballer sticks a 30 yarder into the top corner in the 44th minute (as a random example) what has that got to do with discipline ?
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tresor
Replies: 114
Views: 10525

Re: Tresor

I've no idea to be honest. The club don't readily give out information unfortunately, for example they reported Beyer's was just a loan in summer 2022 and we didn't even confirm Obafemi's permanent signing last summer at all. When Trésor signed I think we just said it was a straight loan but it was...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next 2 seasons
Replies: 29
Views: 1851

Re: The next 2 seasons

I'd rather us go up at the first time of asking and not make such a pigs ear of it if we do*

*only if they fix VAR, if they don't then I don't ever want to step foot inside the league again
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

Certainly I disagreed with the two Oliver reds - when VAR against Zaroury vs City (which was ankle / calf height) and yesterday. I also disagreed with Berge at Villa - incorrect application of the rules booking a player after advantage and a shot. The Foster one was frustration after a refereeing e...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tresor
Replies: 114
Views: 10525

Re: Tresor

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:39 pm
He was at Chelsea but not against Wolves
what's your gut feeling on if we've signed him or not ?
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
Replies: 61
Views: 3506

Re: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.

Corway wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:32 pm
The biggest question is why £20m was good business for us and will we ever get that back?
An absolutely crazy use of scarce resources when we had two keepers.
it wasn't 20 but yes, we didn't need him either way
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Premier league title
Replies: 34
Views: 1650

Re: Premier league title

City for me because I love watching KDB and Foden. Also, I despise fan bases that turn on a manager after a few defeats, Arsenals lot were trying their best to get Arteta sacked for a good few years so that rules them out. Liverpool fans don't seem to have any sort of 'fairness' radar - not a group ...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

All very true but I'm genuinely surprised at how Kompany has been unable to instil more discipline in the players as the season has progressed. The persistent poor timings of the goals and the very high constant number of red cards is evidence of a manager unable to be firm enough. tbh I'd say at l...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

Vegas -have been to Leicester games about 8 times this season. Lots of similarities with us last season. They will have major challenges if they go up. From what I have learned with ourselves they will be well short next year. Hermansen their GK is an exceptional young keeper and could thrive in th...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

I'll add, I 100% expected us to get relegated after the transfer window BUT I expected us to have at least another 10-12 points at this stage edit: I wrote the above incorrectly, I meant I expected us to finish with another 10-12 more than we have, I figured between 30-35 points at the end so we are...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

For sure - that's a huge factor. My point was more setting the team up for failure/success... It's up to the manager to have a style of play that maximises the talent available to them. Not shoehorn players into a certain style - because if it is that then you'll never have continuous success. If w...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Man U/ Liverpool
Replies: 45
Views: 1946

Re: Man U/ Liverpool

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:06 pm
That can't be right, it sounds like a decision that's taken fans into consideration.
:lol: :lol: :lol: right?!
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Man U/ Liverpool
Replies: 45
Views: 1946

Re: Man U/ Liverpool

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:48 pm
What was the reason for the odd kick off times today?
Spurs game was supposed to be Monday night but got moved because of the train strike tomorrow
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O'Shea ball control
Replies: 48
Views: 3334

Re: O'Shea ball control

Like most of the squad he's learning at this level, and needs to be cut some slack. When you are at the top you make errors and get away with it, at the bottom you get punished. and he' up against some of the best players around every other week, tough learning curve but he will only get better as ...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

But when we have so many 'individual mistakes' then perhaps it's because the system itself is weak? Management is about setting people (in this case a team of footy players) up for success; if the messaging isn't working then maybe it's the wrong message? there is a reason there are levels in footb...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

It was 54 and twice in 2017/18 and 2019/20. Those were remarkable returns and I’ll be astounded if we ever beat that in this league with any manager. and it's going to get tougher every year to stay up never mind beat those numbers. The money at the bottom of the league has run away in the last cou...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Man U/ Liverpool
Replies: 45
Views: 1946

Re: Man U/ Liverpool

Sheff Utd 2-2
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
Replies: 58
Views: 3746

Re: Post match interviews v Everton

TsarBomba wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:46 pm
Drinkwater wasn’t a Dyche signing.
I never said it was, he's talking about having good players in the dressing room and we had a room full
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Man U/ Liverpool
Replies: 45
Views: 1946

Re: Man U/ Liverpool

Arsenal still have to go to Spurs and Man Utd and have Chelsea at home, I'd be surprised if they win all 3 of those
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Man U/ Liverpool
Replies: 45
Views: 1946

Re: Man U/ Liverpool

it feels like Liverpool have had more chances in this game than we've had in half a season
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
Replies: 58
Views: 3746

Re: Post match interviews v Everton

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:59 pm
With hardly a penny spent because the money was going to the training ground.
that wasn't the point.
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
Replies: 58
Views: 3746

Re: Post match interviews v Everton

Its not about luck. Its about managing players. People thought Dyche was 'lucky' with Joey Barton. But he was able to manage the player and get good value out of him - AND had built a dressing room with a strong team culture that ensured Barton couldn't step out of line. Danny Drinkwater kills your...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How many goals do we concede just before half time
Replies: 33
Views: 1630

Re: How many goals do we concede just before half time

For the record I still wouldn't can him - just hoping that the manager and the board wise up a bit. They have to or we are royally screwed. I'm caught between being completely baffled how much of a pigs ear they made of it in the summer and having faith in them to bounce back next season. Logic say...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How many goals do we concede just before half time
Replies: 33
Views: 1630

Re: How many goals do we concede just before half time

The goals conceded just before half time/full time, along with the discipline record are tell tale signs of poor management tbh. Odd occurrences can be put down to being coincidental but when it's a repeated, frequent pattern? Suggests that this is a problem. inexperience, can you imagine the diffe...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How many goals do we concede just before half time
Replies: 33
Views: 1630

Re: How many goals do we concede just before half time

In terms of standards, I’ve observed a real lack of work rate from a number of players this season which shouldn’t be tolerated. So if Vinny does work hard, and I’m sure he does, this obviously doesn’t rub off on the squad as a whole. Those players not getting a bollocking, and then starting the ne...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How many goals do we concede just before half time
Replies: 33
Views: 1630

Re: How many goals do we concede just before half time

everyone talking about sloppiness and nobody talking about the single biggest thing in professional sport - confidence. Ours has been shot since the first month and we never really recovered no matter the personnel or the tactics, getting smashed most weeks must be very difficult for any professiona...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O'Shea ball control
Replies: 48
Views: 3334

Re: O'Shea ball control

I'm not surprised he's had an iffy season, the entire team has, confidence has been on the floor since day one for him.
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
Replies: 58
Views: 3746

Re: Post match interviews v Everton

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:14 am
Oh right. I didn't know Kompany had two promotions from the Championship.

My mistake.
in a season, pretty clear what I meant.
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
Replies: 58
Views: 3746

Re: Post match interviews v Everton

Which is what I said. Read it back. I give up with you. I don't need to read it back, you said in his first season we got relegated with more points. Well, lets give Dyche the relegated with more points trophy if it makes you feel better - the point I made was we still got relegated, who cares if w...
by Vegas Claret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
Replies: 58
Views: 3746

Re: Post match interviews v Everton

But yet we still managed to stay up. Admittedly we were really struggling in his last season, but we still had more points from fewer games than we have now. In Dyche's first PL season we went down with 33 points and were competitive most of the time. I don't think we'll get anywhere near that now....
by Vegas Claret
Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
Replies: 58
Views: 3746

Re: Post match interviews v Everton

fidelcastro wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:53 pm
I don't know what you watch :shock:
mate, we were ******* dreadful for at least the last 2-3 years under him and week after week he used to say we had played well. Undeniable
by Vegas Claret
Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
Replies: 58
Views: 3746

Re: Post match interviews v Everton

fidelcastro wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:36 pm
On his MOTD interview, he claimed we played well.

Absolutely clueless.
Dyche said it every week too and he was rarely right, the Everton fans are already sick of the same lines he comes out with every week. Typical manager speak, doesn't mean they are clueless.
by Vegas Claret
Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
Replies: 58
Views: 3746

Re: Post match interviews v Everton

Wokingclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:46 pm
No leave it out, a better Manager that knows what is needed for this division
Edwards is a good manager, good man too. Whilst you would have to congratulate them on taking the risk on Barkley they are VERY lucky they got the version of him they did.
by Vegas Claret
Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:28 pm
Southampton are third in the championship for premier league experience. With over 100apps more than Norwich

Leicester are top by a mile. Leeds and Southampton are the closest to each other.
what website are you looking at for this info ? I'd be interested in browsing !
by Vegas Claret
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:00 pm
Did Eddie Howe leave Dyche a squad with the most premier league experience in the league?
If it's just down to PL experienced players then why aren't Leicester an Leeds walking the League and how are Ipswich second ?
by Vegas Claret
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

I don't doubt for one moment that all the style and finesse we saw last season was down to Kompany. It was a joy to watch at times. What I do doubt, very much so, is Kompany's ability to build his own core group of players who will police the dressing room and set a strong culture. It's strange bec...
by Vegas Claret
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:00 pm
Did Eddie Howe leave Dyche a squad with the most premier league experience in the league?
we got rid of 16 players and brought in 15 (or something like that) - no ounce of credit for putting it all together or will we find that on Dyche's CV too ?
by Vegas Claret
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 16107

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

fidelcastro wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:55 pm
He generally isn't as good as those two though.

Although you'd think he was, given some of the comments on here about him in recent weeks.
Muric cost about 3 million quid, Allison cost about 70, Ederson about 35 - would you expect him to be as good as them ? Bonkers :D