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- Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
If we as a country are going to have adequate staffing levels in the NHS,care homes and the hospitality industry to name just 3 things off the top of my head,we need inward migration that's just a fact. Even the Conservatives have seemingly now abandoned targets,and as you rightly point out they we...
- Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Solo winter sun. Any tips? mid March-ish
- Replies: 32
- Views: 3008
Re: Solo winter sun. Any tips? mid March-ish
I wouldn't bother. (Godfather makes it look better than it is.)LS7 wrote:I’ve always fancied a trip to Sicily.
- Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
(...shudder...)AndyClaret wrote:If labour was full of John Mann's, Ian Austin's and Frank Fields I could vote for them, but it isn't.
- Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Julie Cooper MP to stand down .... ?
- Replies: 342
- Views: 18978
Re: Julie Cooper MP to stand down .... ?
20/1ClaretMoffitt wrote:Tories won't win in burnley, brexit party can
Stick your money on!
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- Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
I have to agree with Ringo here, there's a lot of mingling between Brexit and the right wing and they can be viewed separately. I suspect in part it's due to how Brexit and immigration have been linked. Obviously it's not possible to be left leaning and vote for a party headed by Johnson or Farage ...
- Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
It'll be an interesting test as to just how bad Boris is in head to head debates, because considering the ludicrousness of Labour's positioning over the last few months, I feel even I could wipe the floor with Corbyn!Spijed wrote:Going to be very interesting as to how the TV debates go.
- Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
I see we're still using the But it was only 'advisory' argument. Come on.Lancasterclaret wrote:But if this election doesn't give clarity, will you accept that two parliamentary elections show that an advisory referendum in 2016 shouldn't perhaps run the whole country till the end of time?
- Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
This post sums up Corbynistas to a tee. Everything else is wrong. Not Corbyn though, its everything else. If labour get badly beaten in this election, I do worry that people still won't realise. (I hope they do well, simply because I think Corbyn is a better bet than Johnston, but that is because b...
- Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
A few points. Firstly, I'm not so sure an electorate swayed by enough bull$hit to demand Brexit without a plan wouldn't be equally as susceptible to being swayed by enough bull$hit to deliver a Tory govt, even a minority one, and the fact Labour have already lost three elections this decade and wil...
- Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:14 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
I have only ever voted labour. This is the first time I wont as the leader is totally out of touch with historic core labour values. I am now torn between a puppet and mirage. Personally this town being what it is will vote for Brexit and tactically I will vote with the mindless masses and vote for...
- Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:54 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Would you rather ... ?
- Replies: 46
- Views: 2812
Re: Would you rather ... ?
I'd trade relegation for an FA Cup win. But I'd trade hardly anything for 'losing finalist', and absolutely nothing for 'losing semi-finalist'.
That's the thing - it's a bit all-or-nothing, the FA Cup.
Yeah, go on, then. Let's go for it.
That's the thing - it's a bit all-or-nothing, the FA Cup.
Yeah, go on, then. Let's go for it.
- Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
Legally, you can, yes.Lancasterclaret wrote:You can believe in Brexit and still vote Labour.
It'll be immensely hard work, though.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:08 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Facts About the NHS
- Replies: 91
- Views: 5612
Re: Facts About the NHS
Of course the counter argument would be “why should others have to pay for my healthcare?” There are practical and principled arguments: In principle, I should not welcome a sentient being suffering a miserable and untimely demise on account of a condition he had absolutely no control over. In prac...
- Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Facts About the NHS
- Replies: 91
- Views: 5612
Re: Facts About the NHS
in essence, its a fantastic, iconic british institution, but ruined by ******* govenmental dpartments and abused by the public its there to care for. not to mention the millions wasted on delivering services for the undeserving scamsters, and those permitted to screw it for every penny without ever...
- Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Facts About the NHS
- Replies: 91
- Views: 5612
Re: Facts About the NHS
That's what I thought, too. This stink about alleged privatisation isn't saying (at least, most people aren't) that no aspect of healthcare should ever be prvided by a limited company; it's saying that the current degree of private enterprise employed by the NHS is about right or too high and it sh...
- Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Facts About the NHS
- Replies: 91
- Views: 5612
Re: Facts About the NHS
What do you mean by privatisation? Do you mean that the government is selling shares in the NHS and then paying dividends out of the NHS "profits"? Or do you mean that the NHS is using McAlpine to build its hospitals and GlaxoSmithKline to produce its drugs and the shareholders of those companies a...
- Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Facts About the NHS
- Replies: 91
- Views: 5612
Re: Facts About the NHS
I'm not sure the NHS worked fine "20-25 years ago" - 1990s. Obviously it is somewhat subjective. Whilst not faultless, the 1990s version of the NHS worked like a dream when compared to the current one. We need to make a decision: full insurance based system, motivated by the self-interest of all pl...
- Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Julie Cooper MP to stand down .... ?
- Replies: 342
- Views: 18978
Re: Julie Cooper MP to stand down .... ?
Is anyone canvassing for Labour this time? How's it going?
It was easy, and seemed very successful, in 2017. Just wondered if there was the same buzz and conviction now as there was then.
It was easy, and seemed very successful, in 2017. Just wondered if there was the same buzz and conviction now as there was then.
- Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Facts About the NHS
- Replies: 91
- Views: 5612
Re: Facts About the NHS
Hi iibyw, the thing is, if the situations you describe existed in the private sector their management would either (1) sort it out or (2) go bankrupt and be replaced by someone who could sort it out. Therein lies the problem with any state owned activities, if the state (tax payer) will always pay ...
- Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Facts About the NHS
- Replies: 91
- Views: 5612
Re: Facts About the NHS
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Spot on there. Everyday health care workers get up and go to work and think "I wonder how I can **** up some poor patients life today?" Not all called Shipman or Allitt you know. Ha, yes. Obviously not those that get up and try and do their job. But the gra...
- Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:50 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Facts About the NHS
- Replies: 91
- Views: 5612
Re: Facts About the NHS
The NHS is an embarrassment now. It doesn't seem capable of doing the simplest of things, like treating acutely ill people, without some laughable charade or other.
Which was the plan, of course.
Which was the plan, of course.
- Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where is best place to buy foreign currency?
- Replies: 34
- Views: 2041
Re: Where is best place to buy foreign currency?
So I've had a quick look on Google and asked the question (in varying forms) 'what countries do not accept the US dollar'. What came up was a whole host of answers that said which countries DO accept it but only one I could find that came up with the answer. As soon as I tried to open the page it p...
- Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where is best place to buy foreign currency?
- Replies: 34
- Views: 2041
Re: Where is best place to buy foreign currency?
I don't know! Probably, I imagine.houseboy wrote:What even Russia?
Do they not? Worth knowing if so.
- Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where is best place to buy foreign currency?
- Replies: 34
- Views: 2041
Re: Where is best place to buy foreign currency?
Can't comment on Phillipines because I've never been, but everywhere I've been it works out best sticking your card in a local cash machine. Make sure you choose "charge your bank in local currency". If you must, take 50 US dollars to cover you until you find a cash machine. Absolutely everywhere on...
- Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
Yes, I thought it was a Lib Dem increase, but either way more jumping to the BXP than the Conservative (Still Workington:) I've checked the actual tables again. Just over half of those voting Labour in 2017, that are likely to vote, say they will vote Labour again. Of those saying otherwise 16% are...
- Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:40 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
Eh? His previous post was about Lewis Goodhall's view or Workington. When did the switch from Workington to nationally occur??Lancasterclaret wrote:I think he's talking nationally.
- Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:29 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
But if you look at that poll the Conservative vote hasn't gone up much, rather Labour dropping in favour of the Lib Dems. Are we looking at the same poll? The one that shows the Lib Dem vote falling to 5%? https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1190402686828580865" onclick="window.open(this.href...
- Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:22 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
Different people to those Survation were speaking to, clearly.Spijed wrote:So who were those people Lewis Goodhall was speaking to who were laughing at the phrase 'Workington man'?
- Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:21 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
But are they actually voting Tory though? My sympathy with the areas of the country that were destroyed by the Tories would completely disappear if they voted Tory to be perfectly honest. I don't know, but they're saying they will. Whether they actually do remains to be seen. By the way, I'm not su...
- Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:13 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
I know the point! I'm saying that the number holding this view seem to be fairly limited. They really are voting Tory this time. I know some of them personally!Spijed wrote:But the point is many Labour voters will NEVER vote Tory regardless of whether they want to leave the EU or not.
- Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:10 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
But they aren't if they are labour voters. You might well be, with your long term lexit plan, but poll after poll after poll suggests that the majority of Labour voters are remainers* *its obviously skewered on a more local level, but that is why the labour party has reached the decision it has on ...
- Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:02 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
I'd await some polls to confirm that, but if all leavers think like that, then Farage is going to do really well. As no one is predicting that he's going to, it does suggest that isn't the case. That post makes absolutely no sense to me. Leavers are (nearly) all going Tory. Actually, that's an exag...
- Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:57 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
You should read Lewis Goodhall's tweet about Workington man. Basically he thinks the Labour vote is so deep rooted it won't shift enough. I did. That's what started this discussion. But that was just an opinion, one that the only poll data we have - however limited - directly contradicts. Leavers a...
- Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:17 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
They're not. Survation are fine. The Workington poll is tiny though with a massive amount of respondents 'undecided', and the Daily Mail's representation of it is a joke, but that's not Survation's fault. Hmm. 22% undecided - quite high, yes. Also quite a lot 'would consider' voting Labour, if they...
- Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
with genuine respect...its totally accepted in journalistic circles that when polls are commisioned via these chancers , that they are told what results the paper wants....they are utter jokes...the Daily Mail will have commisioned the result here....not the poll. That I really don't know. I'd be s...
- Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
thats a bloke...with a twitter account...he'd predict a surge in support gor the Peaky Blinders if you bought him a pint. I'm not saying the poll isn't fixed, anything is possible, but it was conducted on behalf of the Mail, who wrote a story on it. I don't think it's just some bloke making polls u...
- Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
2/1 Ladbrokes.Lowbankclaret wrote:At this time I think Burnley will return a Tory MP.
As such your correct.
Edit 9/4 William Hill
- Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
Looks like Workington man won't vote for Boris. If that's the case what chance have the Tories in other Labour seats? https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1192160778754895872" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Lewis Goodall @lewis_goodall · 1h 7) Corbyn is unpopular here, huge conce...
- Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:10 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fireworks warning
- Replies: 28
- Views: 1901
Re: Fireworks warning
Do you know, that's a really good point, one I hadn't thought to question before. It's not as if they're scary or anything is it? Just annoying for others, basically.Foulthrow wrote:Why do they make them with a bang? What's the point? It just disturbs those folk who are trying to get some kip.
- Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Zip Merging
- Replies: 83
- Views: 6647
Re: Zip Merging
This has been a great thread! I can hardly wait for the next chance I get to do this now!
- Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Zip Merging
- Replies: 83
- Views: 6647
Re: Zip Merging
The point is that if all those who got over to the left early instead tried to get as close to the front as possible there would be no room to zoom down the right because the void of the right hand lane would not exist. If it be your will (do you like what I did there ;)) to get over to the left as...
- Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Zip Merging
- Replies: 83
- Views: 6647
Re: Zip Merging
To me it's analogous to fluid mechanics... If you consider a pipe (road) with a fluid (vehicles) flowing through it approaching a narrowing of the pipe (roadworks), it is definitely not quicker to get some of the fluid (vehicles) to stop to one side of the pipe (left lane of road) leaving a void to...
- Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:24 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Zip Merging
- Replies: 83
- Views: 6647
Re: Zip Merging
Once it becomes obvious there is a queue forming, it's rude to then attempt to gain an unfair, advanced place in that queue. Think of any queue, passport control or whatever, yes, in the mess it's perfectly possible to gain a few places, and sort of half pretend you didn't really mean to, but really...
- Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
Accuse the other side of what you're doing and then when they accuse you of it it just looks like mud-slinging. It's a pretty simple tactic used to undermine political discourse. Most people with critical minds saw through it though, which is probably why the lover educated voters skewed much more ...
- Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
Johnson blocks release of a report into interference of the 2016 referendum until after the election. Trump ordered to hand over his tax records but will fight it in the supreme court, also on a day he's been sued by a rape victim for defamation. Two utter scumbags. I don't how people square teachi...
- Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
Well I suspect you weren't the target for ads such as: but others clearly were and a lot of money was spent getting these out there. However, my point was more that blocking this report looks quite bad for the Tories. As such, I wonder what is in the report that is worse than the reputational damag...
- Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Election Is On
- Replies: 5094
- Views: 203512
Re: General Election Is On
You've got to wonder what is in this report on Russian interference that it's better optics to delay publication rather than release it https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/04/no-10-blocks-russia-eu-referendum-report-until-after-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; But i...
- Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Zip Merging
- Replies: 83
- Views: 6647
Re: Zip Merging
But if you all hadn't moved into the inside lane to early and stayed in the outside lane until the roadworks they would never be an empty lane. What you are doing by going slowly in the empty lane is what would happen naturally without you if everyone just filled up both lanes I am not sure where y...
- Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:08 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Zip Merging
- Replies: 83
- Views: 6647
Re: Zip Merging
Our motorways are one massive queue these days. Don’t know if you’ve noticed. As I said earlier, British drivers are too territorial. I prefer to make progress safely. If there is still half a mile of lane left, why not use it? Use the full capacity of the road and people wouldn’t be able to “fly” ...
- Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:43 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Zip Merging
- Replies: 83
- Views: 6647
Re: Zip Merging
But if both lanes are used to the merge point both lanes go at the same pace and the whole thing flows better right up to the roadworks. All the slow car in the outside lane is doing is moving the problem further back down the road (they become the artificial roadworks) cos as the traffic slows dow...