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by dsr
Thu May 05, 2022 12:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

I read it perfectly fine. What you're doing is making allegations that you cannot substantiate to suit your agenda, that's why you added the bit in brackets to try and avoid anything libellous. You're also the one who said he was planning to remove large sums from the club, it's there in black and ...
by dsr
Thu May 05, 2022 11:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

I think dsr's point is that the the club was run in order to facilitate a leveraged buy-out, which elevated the price to a point no one who could afford a football club would want to buy it. And the evidence certainly points that way. There were no other buyers because the sellers had a particular ...
by dsr
Thu May 05, 2022 11:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

That's a new allegation... You're saying that from the day he assumed majority ownership he kept the club on an even keel, running within its means, so he could take money directly from the clubs accounts? That's bold, but also shaky ground legally I don't wish to be rude, but you're either making ...
by dsr
Thu May 05, 2022 11:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

Yes, I know that but the idea that we could be bought by someone who saved money like MG did and spent money so we can compete is cloud cuckoo land, and I thought he was veering that way Apologies if incorrect btw I wasn't suggesting both spending and saving at the same time, if that's what you're ...
by dsr
Thu May 05, 2022 10:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Good analysis of Jackson's Burnley
Replies: 15
Views: 2004

Re: Good analysis of Jackson's Burnley

Grimsdale wrote:
Thu May 05, 2022 10:08 am
Here you go: https://totalfootballanalysis.com/head- ... is-tactics
Thanks.

So even like-for-like, stats under Jackson have improved. Long may it continue (or at least, for 4 more games!)
by dsr
Thu May 05, 2022 10:45 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

I'm well aware there are lots of different types of people who own football clubs but they do tend to fall into two categories. 1- run the club within its means 2- run the club beyond its means/at a loss and keep pumping money into the club to keep it afloat, either borrowed or their own until such...
by dsr
Thu May 05, 2022 9:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

Garlick didn't hoard every penny though, that's just a narrative built up in the last few years. Wanting the club to be sold to another Garlick defeats the object of wanting Garlick gone. Nobody wanted the club to be sold to another Garlick. You're getting obsessed with the idea that Garlick and Pa...
by dsr
Thu May 05, 2022 9:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Good analysis of Jackson's Burnley
Replies: 15
Views: 2004

Re: Good analysis of Jackson's Burnley

I wonder what the Dyche equivalent figures were for the same (reverse) fixtures? Watford and West Ham home, Southampton and Wolves away? We didn't win any of them, and I would certainly expect Dyche's figures to still be lower, but when making comparisons it's worth remembering that Jackson has had ...
by dsr
Thu May 05, 2022 12:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

Sell for less to potentially find an owner to run us in the same manner he had been doing? It was getting harder and harder to compete in the PL being ran in that way and yes more and more fans were showing their displeasure in use being ran that way. You seem to be assuming that if you don't strip...
by dsr
Wed May 04, 2022 11:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Real-City
Replies: 149
Views: 4108

Re: Real-City

The two commentators were definitely the worst performers of the game. I wonder if they will look back on the last few minutes of normal time and the first few of extra time and realise how cringingly bad they were? Probably not, they probably think they did a good job of telling people what an exci...
by dsr
Wed May 04, 2022 11:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

It’d certainly be hypocritical if the same people were now complaining about who he sold the club to. It certainly would not be hypocritical to complain about who he sold to. Total nonsense. Yes, the people (if any) who said that they want Garlick to sell and they don't care if it leads to penury a...
by dsr
Wed May 04, 2022 6:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

Just catching up on this thread and appreciate there are a lot of subsequent posts. But I’ve seen it mentioned a couple of times now that the £37m could have been used to sign a few players. It’s really not as simple as that is it. Players are paid a salary - lets say £2.5m per year for 4 years, th...
by dsr
Wed May 04, 2022 5:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Single Men - A Question
Replies: 40
Views: 2069

Re: Single Men - A Question

Maple Leafs wrote:
Wed May 04, 2022 5:15 pm
Every Leap year.
You'll be looking forward to 2100 then.
by dsr
Wed May 04, 2022 4:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: GREAT News for Everton Fans?
Replies: 25
Views: 4882

Re: GREAT News for Everton Fans?

Barnes already occupied the space and protected his possession of the ball, if the opposition player decides to "occupy" the same space then the ref is right to give a foul. Protecting the ball is one of the skills of football and you see it every week. If Barnes falls over and then pretends he has...
by dsr
Wed May 04, 2022 1:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

Just read this on the BBC website which made me feel a tad uncomfortable. Does anyone have any idea what the final comment means? At first reading it seems a bit dodgy. "The accounts also state that following the end of the reporting period, Burnley advanced £10m to a "fellow group company"." Apolo...
by dsr
Wed May 04, 2022 1:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

They've made it clear they would have to sell players. I know this is hard for people to accept but I suspect they would protect their investment before the club. And they are not necessarily the same thing.. Agreed bouncing back in year 1would be essential because of the additional loss of broadca...
by dsr
Wed May 04, 2022 12:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

I think that's a bit of an overreaction to say the least. If a chunk of the 65m loan is due, let's assume half of it, call it 35m. Cornet / Pope sales in summer would cover that. Any other sales provide funds, alongside the parachute payments, to rebuild in the Championship. ALK bought the club whe...
by dsr
Wed May 04, 2022 12:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

The top holding company will have a balance sheet something like this (before the minority shareholders were bought out): ASSET - Burnley Football Club, £180m. LIABILITY - debt owed to Burnley Football Club, £102m LIABILITY - balance of purchase price owed to Garlick and B, £60m SHARE CAPITAL - £15m...
by dsr
Wed May 04, 2022 10:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Single Men - A Question
Replies: 40
Views: 2069

Re: Single Men - A Question

I use the cherry stones method. This year, next year, sometime, never. Sometimes I need to add a cherry or two to get the right result.
by dsr
Wed May 04, 2022 12:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This Saturday
Replies: 17
Views: 2377

Re: This Saturday

They looked pretty revved up against Wolves. Let's repeat that.
by dsr
Wed May 04, 2022 12:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed May 04, 2022 12:17 am
So potentially that £100 million could end up back in the club to get it back on an even keel, meaning they'd be no better off
Yes, but that's only potential in the same way as if you win the euromillions £100m, you could put it all into the club. Why would you? And why would they?
by dsr
Tue May 03, 2022 11:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

At present Garlick is owed a shed load of money, so he benefits the most, but it's also been mentioned that he would takeover the club again under certain circumstances so in that instance he wouldn't be any better off if he didn't get his money. The point about Garlick is that he keeps the money n...
by dsr
Mon May 02, 2022 4:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Collins makes the 21 European Team of the Month
Replies: 5
Views: 900

Re: Collins makes the 21 European Team of the Month

IanMcL wrote:
Mon May 02, 2022 2:44 pm
Great recognition and well deserved.

I see he is lined up alongside Mr Wood. George Formby will be singing soon! (From the grave)

"Oh Mr Wood and Collins too"
That comment would work better with a less aggressive autocorrect! :shock:

(Mr Wood's an air raid warden now? :lol: )
by dsr
Mon May 02, 2022 3:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Richarlison flare thrower
Replies: 106
Views: 9147

Re: Richarlison flare thrower

Of course I understand the danger, but I don't see how suspending him from playing will help. He needs reminding of his responsibilities and education training. And I don't need your help thanks Ian. That's an argument against all suspensions. If for example a Watford man had committed a bad foul o...
by dsr
Mon May 02, 2022 3:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Richarlison flare thrower
Replies: 106
Views: 9147

Re: Richarlison flare thrower

Did anyone get hurt ? I'm not sure that's really the issue. The question for the FA/PL is, or should be, does throwing smoke bombs about in the crowd count as a serious offence that should be punished, or just a minor thing and won't be punished? They may of course decide that it's OK for players t...
by dsr
Mon May 02, 2022 3:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Richarlison flare thrower
Replies: 106
Views: 9147

Re: Richarlison flare thrower

Leisure wrote:
Mon May 02, 2022 3:45 pm
Really! Throwing a smoke bomb which could have hit someone in the crowd is passion! 🤔🤔🤔
Presumably. to some people, the passion involved would be an equally valid excuse for the thicko who threw it in the first place. :roll:
by dsr
Mon May 02, 2022 11:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton v Chelsea
Replies: 282
Views: 10524

Re: Everton v Chelsea

claretblue wrote:
Mon May 02, 2022 11:23 am
where’ve picked that phrase from? :?
If anyone is feeling too stressed they could always go "back on the grass". ;)
by dsr
Mon May 02, 2022 10:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: one more win
Replies: 114
Views: 7714

Re: one more win

I’m going off matching like for like scenarios we would finish above Leeds due to the GD but not Everton, I think some people are struggling with the concept that Everton’s extra game could potentially earn them 3 points which is more than the 2 we currently lead them by. It's not that people are s...
by dsr
Mon May 02, 2022 9:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: GREAT News for Everton Fans?
Replies: 25
Views: 4882

Re: GREAT News for Everton Fans?

Lord knows I seldom expect to agree with DA, but I do on this one (whether he's trolling or not). Saturday's ref was clearly minded to give free kicks every time a player fell over after contact. If the ref chooses to treat that as a rule, and Watford got the benefit many times before Barnes came on...
by dsr
Mon May 02, 2022 9:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton v Chelsea
Replies: 282
Views: 10524

Re: Everton v Chelsea

I’m not quite sure how many excuses we seem to be making to justify Everton’s upturn in form since the careless comments, I guess next Sunday we can say schmeichel hasn’t been himself for awhile or Brendan Rodger’s heads somewhere else or maybe something else, just anything to detract away from the...
by dsr
Mon May 02, 2022 9:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton v Chelsea
Replies: 282
Views: 10524

Re: Everton v Chelsea

Just read Everton’s comments (if correct) on Richarlison throwing the flare, “He was just trying to throw it out of the ground”. :lol: Former referee Hackett saying he should have been sent off. As I mentioned above after the Drogba incident I think he should receive an immediate three match ban. T...
by dsr
Sun May 01, 2022 1:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Why change a new winning formula?
Replies: 22
Views: 1142

Re: Why change a new winning formula?

I reckon the players had got a bit stale and were waiting for the manager to put it right. Then Dyche was gone and the players realised it was up to themselves to put it right. They had got too much into doing exactly what Dyche told them to, and now they can and must take more personal responsibilt...
by dsr
Sun May 01, 2022 12:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

Tall Paul wrote:
Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:45 pm
So there isn't then.
My apologies. I thought you were trying to be helpful with some advice, inaccurate though it was, about abbreviated accounts.

Had I realised you were being pitifully nitpicky in an attempt to mislead, I would have phrased my answer differently.
by dsr
Sun May 01, 2022 12:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Michael Jackson chant
Replies: 52
Views: 4164

Re: Michael Jackson chant

According to someone on the Watford website, Jackson has managed more points in his 4 games at Burnley than any of their 3 permanent managers have managers in their spells this season.
by dsr
Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: That was horrible, just horrible.
Replies: 50
Views: 3979

Re: That was horrible, just horrible.

We’ve been awful last 2 games , but we kept fighting against a side so poor it beggared belief . And a great win ensued. You can see the players totally want it. Last 15 with wings switched we played it on the deck too Awful against Wolves? Even Devil's Advocate wouldn't come out with stuff like th...
by dsr
Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

Tall Paul wrote:
Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:46 am
No such thing as abbreviated accounts these days.
Yes there is. They've just got a different name, but you can still file reduced accounts (eg. No profit and loss account) if your company is small enough.
by dsr
Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9911
Views: 831447

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

You really need to understand and have experience on the platform to really debate me on this, reading a few debunked poo poo'd Athletic articles full of fake news doesn't really cut it. Nor do I find ''they're suddenly gonna lose all licencing'' as realistic or even worthy of debate. It doesn't ne...
by dsr
Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK
Replies: 628
Views: 22765

Re: Burnley Football Club - first accounts under ALK

They might have made a coronavirus application to extend the deadline for 3 months.
by dsr
Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9911
Views: 831447

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Blackpool is 3 users, they don't have the ability to flood the market. There's 12 leagues tied in, with contracts for 3 years for full licencing and many more to come. Why would it suddenly go out of fashion? it's been around for over 2 years and still growing daily, I don't see fantasy football fa...
by dsr
Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Watford fan's
Replies: 35
Views: 6065

Re: Watford fan's

As far as I can see Claretmov has used 4 correctly out of 6. I've, I'd, what's, and let's, are all correct. So stop whinging. Tip for anyone interested - if you're adding an S to signify more than one of something, such as fans and forums, don't use an apostrophe. Not needed. Tip 2 - don't let miser...
by dsr
Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9911
Views: 831447

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

The gambling commission looked into it months ago, they must not deem it gambling (which it isn't imo). Football Index was fully regulated btw and thousands lost everything. Gaming is a weird one right, Fifa Ultimate Team resets every year but EA make billions a year from people buying FIFA coins, ...
by dsr
Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Name the next manager
Replies: 2361
Views: 151096

Re: Name the next manager

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:50 pm
I was thinking of Eddie Howe tbh. He has experience of managing a smaller club in the Premiership.
A smaller club with money. In their last 2 PL seasons, they spent £100m more than they took in, and still got relegated.
by dsr
Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Barrowford Primary School....
Replies: 185
Views: 8509

Re: Barrowford Primary School....

I think its fairly obvious, and that is why there is such a furore Put it one way, you aren't thick, so pretending you don't know why that clip has caused a fuss isn't a good look for you I suspect it has caused a furore because some people believe that certain opinions must not be spoken. Do you t...
by dsr
Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Barrowford Primary School....
Replies: 185
Views: 8509

Re: Barrowford Primary School....

Here's the clip dsr https://twitter.com/chrischirp/status/1519293906227183616 But that doesn't answer my question. I know what Mr Birbalsingh said, but I don't know why anyone is objecting to her saying it. Is it because they think she is wrong, or is it because they think the subject shouldn't be ...
by dsr
Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Barrowford Primary School....
Replies: 185
Views: 8509

Re: Barrowford Primary School....

What is it that is the issue here? I can't work out whether the objection is because: (1) girls are not reluctant to do physics and Ms Birbalsingh is wrong; or (2) girls are reluctant to do physics but that shouldn't be talked about; or (3) girls are reluctant to do physics but it's for a different ...
by dsr
Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lampard's penalty, whinge or realism?
Replies: 31
Views: 2166

Re: Lampard's penalty, whinge or realism?

Hipper wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:10 pm
Are Everton a little club these days? One of the founding five of the Premier league.
Another good reason to dislike them.
by dsr
Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Name the next manager
Replies: 2361
Views: 151096

Re: Name the next manager

There are only a few managers out there qualified to do what needs to be done at the club because there are only a handful of managers who have that experience. One is currently failing at Watford. Another was sacked by Burnley prior to Dyche and others, like Sam Allardyce, won't be tolerated by th...
by dsr
Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Name the next manager
Replies: 2361
Views: 151096

Re: Name the next manager

Well it depends. Let’s say, hypothetically, they go for Knutsen from Bodo Glimt. His system is 4–3-3 using inside forwards and 1 main striker. Therefore, would we need to try and renew all 3 OOC strikers? Probably not. Then the likes of Lennon, will he suit a high and wide winger role? Maybe back i...
by dsr
Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Social Media
Replies: 29
Views: 2001

Re: Social Media

The average player on social media:

Monday. Porridge for breakfast. My wife makes it with brown sugar. Chicken for lunch then a game of golf - shot 85. Off to the pictures tonight.
Tuesday. Why does no-one respect my privacy?
by dsr
Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lampard's penalty, whinge or realism?
Replies: 31
Views: 2166

Re: Lampard's penalty, whinge or realism?

I wouldn't have given the second penalty either. Gordon saw a defender coming and ran in front of him to block him, then threw himself down. You often see players get between the man and the ball as a form of legal obstruction, but you rarely see a free kick given against the obstructed man just for...