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keith1879

Pimlico_Claret wrote: ↑
Mon May 25, 2020 5:18 pm
I can't remember stopping to fill up with petrol. FFS, give up now man, you are becoming a laughing stock.

He lost me properly there as well.

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Having listened to his account I feel that he acted reasonably....but boy should he have made all this clear before. I still feel however that he should have sought childcare and alternative accommodation in London....he has influential connections.

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With respect Aggi that person is stupid. If someone needed 999, and the other person was “very unwell” at the time, the law clearly allows them to take steps to protect their child, their top responsibility. I think the government were wrong not to make this clearer at the time, but nobody in our c...

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Ah yes....she was called Cordelia .....what a name to saddle a child with.

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Can't resist this one.

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics ... 0525196813

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It would have been worse if Corbyn had been driving.

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Now you really are asking silly questions. On 31st March, do you seriously think that both Cummingses knew exactly how their illness was going to progress? Cummings took the boy to Durham because he was afraid of what might happen. Coronavirus is not an exact science. It isn't possible to look at s...

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If you go to dailymail website there’s an arial picture of the two houses. That's fair - it's a separate building in the same grounds so the contact between households could have been minimal to zero. I see that the Daily Mail are being less than supportive....if their support has gone then it is s...

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NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat May 23, 2020 8:00 pm
Definitely a completely separate house.

I have no doubt that it was a separate house from his sister (I think it was his sister who was the potential child-carer). Can you provide any evidence that it was a separate house from his parents?

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I assume you know the house well? Or maybe not but you thought you would spout off anyway. No....and neither was I spouting off. I was relying on the information in this article published in a newspaper published in the North East of England. https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/dom...

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Clearly the coronavirus scare is coming to an end. All the BBC, together with the usual suspects on this thread, can find to get excited about is Cummings. Other than the BBC who report, as one of their headlines, that their Medical Guy has been tested as having had the virus without knowing it. A ...

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Another, separate house, just the 3 of them.... Sorry if it wasn't clear enough. I'm not convinced that you are correct here. I believe that Mr and Mrs Cummings and their son actually stayed in his parents' house (while his parents were there)....but self-isolating in part of that house. No matter ...

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And if you read the official gov advice, on self isolating, after it tells you what you cannot do, there's the bit about children, which states not all these rules can be abided by. How do you possibly know who was available closer to home, and even if there was, what their commitments were that mi...

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Let's look at the current guidance. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection At the point where they drove to Durham our understanding is that his wife was ill but he wasn't. So Dominic...

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CombatClaret wrote: ↑
Sat May 23, 2020 4:41 pm
What would you do Shapps asks..?
So people who obeyed the rules didn't love or worry about their children enough?

Just like the people who died didn't fight or have the strength of character like the PM.

Spot on.....don't bother staying home if you have the slightest excuse..

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Every question so far (including from the telegraph) on the Cummings issue. If they don't dump him the lockdown is undermined beyond repair I would say.

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NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat May 23, 2020 4:08 pm

I’m definitely not Ringo, sorry to disappoint.

It is disappointing to think that there are two of you

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This is the danger Analysis: Who knew what about Cummings? An explanation has now been given by Downing Street for Dominic Cummings's trip - but questions remain. In Westminster, they're likely to revolve around who exactly in No 10 knew what, and when. In the rest of the country though, they may w...

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There is no point at all in engaging with Ringo (sorry "Newclaret") on this (or any) topoic.

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Think he was making a point that whilst chastising him, they are actually breaching the rules themselves, in a far more reckless way. What he did is take his immediate family, in a private car, to self-isolate in a house near his extended family, should his child require care. What they are doing i...

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I can feel tears of sympathy for the Cummingss. It doesn't seem to mention the bit about driving up the A1 though?

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Remember we are talking about 31st March here. Anything that was said in April and May isn't relevant to Cummings' decision. The big question is, what at that time was the correct thing to do? It's been suggested that he should have put the child into "care". It's been suggested that he should have...

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The police don't say they interviewed him. They say they spoke to the owner of the property but the self-isolating person was in another part of the house. Fair comment....but this is what the police said. "In line with national policing guidance, officers explained to the family the guidelines aro...

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Hi Billy, don't you think these are three different circumstances: Scottish CMO, making two trips to her second home - please don't go to second homes was the rule; Ferguson - please maintain social distance with other households was the rule. Cummings - self-isolate if have symptoms, no travel exc...

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Maybe we will just have to accept a 0.5 -1% premature death rate after infection is the price that has to be paid for the country to return to some kind of new normality. The over 70s and those with serious underlying medical problems might be being protected but is mass unemployment, a collapsed e...

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This looks interesting. Just one of many things being tried I expect. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52754280

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He’s certainly got a lot of serious vested interest in this malaria drug, that’s for sure. I wondered, but the fact checking websites all seem to think his interest is trivial. If you want one source that can be pretty much guaranteed to be anti-Trump it's this https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...

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Sad as all the deaths are there's an awful lot of folks recovering,and this needs highlighting to put the risk into perspective. And these numbers don't account for the many cases which are not being diagnosed. (Snipped out a lot for clarity) Thoroughly agree.....we should remember the victims but ...

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martin_p wrote: ↑
Mon May 18, 2020 11:25 pm
I repeat, has there ever been a February 2024 before?

Yes or no?

(and will repeat this question ad nauseum to deflect from the fact I’m wrong, writing this in small font at the bottom of the post for no apparent reason)

There would have been if Corbyn had been in charge.....

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Better figures Keith, but dubious and not sure the ‘big upsurge’ is anywhere near enough to give any reliable figures, especially as the tests are aimed at a specific demographic. Testing needs to be carried out on general population, until then, any figures are, at best, pretty inconclusive. Still...

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I thought you did not like lies? The Johnson "take it on the chin" quote is the very opposite of what he said. He said some people might say "take it on the chin" but we (Boris and the government) are NOT saying that and we need to tackle the virus. I'm sure it's just a mistake on your part rather ...

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Two points of good news from the UK are that the all-locations 7dma death figure has dropped to half of its peak and that the 7dma new cases figure is now falling steadily at roughly the same rate as the deaths figure. (The two figures have tended to follow similar paths in other countries with clea...

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Context (as Andrew once said when it suited his cause) matters Keith. Do you know of Boris displaying any prejudice? So are you with Corky? I don't believe that Boris Johnson is racist. Am I allowed to have that opinion in your book or do you go along with Corky's view of the world: I think this is...

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I think they're counting on the numbskulls who actually buy the rag reading the headline and a bit of the story but getting bored and stopping reading at the point their assumptions and biases are met but before the actual reality of what's transpired. Exactly ..... I get depressed sometimes thinki...

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evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑
Sun May 17, 2020 10:47 am
Anybody see Gavin Williamson's er, briefing yesterday...................

Saturday seems to be the day where they wheel out the dead wood.

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And replaced by a sycophant. A friend of the bloke being investigated. These posts are normally held by 'non partisan' people. It beggars belief what this genuinely mad President is getting away with. He's turning the place into a facist state. I was prompted to look up the definition of "mad". "me...

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Have you read the article Keith? Morning Android. Before I made my original posting I tried to find the full article on line without success. I managed to find this piece which includes an extended quote https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/tory-leadership-race-boris-johnson-called-black-people-p...

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CombatClaret wrote: ↑
Sat May 16, 2020 6:58 pm
The band is back together again.

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Truly awesome what some people will believe (or claim to believe). I suspect that most people on here across the political spectrum will struggle with those sentiments.

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Corky - have you read the article with the offensive terms or the letterbox article? I believe that one of the phrases used by Johnson in the past was as follows. "It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving...

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Ringo who?

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Think we are far too dependent on international trade to imagine that we can get an advantage from such a strategy. The realistic alternative to Europe is not "on our own"....it's the far east. (Personally I don't ever expect a huge increase in trade with USA).

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Just looked at their Twitter feed and they come across as a bunch of fake news covid conspiracy theorists from the David Icke school of thinking who see it is all some sort of Bill Gates / 5g plot to takeover the world Based on that I will be completely ignoring anything this set of screwballs have...

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Interested to know what people on here think of this: https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/15/watch-uk-chief-medic-confirms-again-covid19-harmless-to-vast-majority/ I would say the following. 1. I understand that from all the apparently authoritative information I have seen I am (overall) at little per...

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I think there may be a new predictable right wing argument to add to "you're just virtue-signalling" and "it would have been worse under Corbyn". I give you "It's too early to make international comparisons". Mind you I think it's too early to be sure.

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Grumps wrote: ↑
Sat May 16, 2020 12:22 pm
It's what they said in the briefing yesterday, and in today's press...

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/uk- ... -increase/

Agreed....that's what I heard/saw.

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ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue May 12, 2020 4:51 pm
Probably before he found out who Phil Boden was

Phil Biden?

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Get rid of first past the post, and use proportional representation instead. Every vote counts, and the government formed will be representative of the votes cast. Yes, it will be a coalition, and big tent parties such as the Tories and Labour would probably break up into smaller ones, but at least...

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That's why I try and just listen to the experts :D The guy from ONS has just been on tv and seems pretty certain on what he says. It's up to others to interpret them moving forward. Agreed 8-) The point I was trying to make was that your(ONS) figure and some of the larger numbers regarding the tota...

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Don't normally go much for stats, but found this interesting The Office for National Statistics says its data suggests an average of 148,000 people in England on any given day had COVID-19 between 27 April & 10 May which is an estimated 0.27% of the population EDIT.... So interesting that sky news ...

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ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Thu May 14, 2020 2:27 pm
Stop your virtue signalling you precious little snowflake. You’ve got no counter argument so all you can do is call people “wacist”.

Yeah....and Corbyn would have done no better. Actually that doesn't really make sense here. Oh what the hell....these bot accounts make mistakes like humans.

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