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- Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Get this clown out
- Replies: 203
- Views: 10246
Re: Get this clown out
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Get this clown out
- Replies: 203
- Views: 10246
Re: Get this clown out
When you’re employed to do a job. Football manager or other wise. And when you do it as badly as VW has this season whether is scouting or buying players… picking the team deciding on tactics… and you fail miserable you deserve sacking. There no way back for him now with this club. Even if we win t...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The objective for the rest of the season
- Replies: 95
- Views: 5569
Re: The objective for the rest of the season
Ok - rephrase my OP to 'one of the worst ever' which is a term that's often used. I used five because all the graphics showed the five worst teams - not sure why that's what you're focusing on. I suppose I'm placing more focus on it than I should do to be fair - I acknowledge that. That's because e...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Get this clown out
- Replies: 203
- Views: 10246
Re: Get this clown out
Do you not think it might be appropriate to consider the different levels of football?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:35 pmAccording to the old internet in a 3 point season our lowest ever points tally was 30.
We are going to come some way short of that. Stats wise this is our worst ever season
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Bournemouth - Player Ratings
- Replies: 86
- Views: 5236
Re: Burnley v Bournemouth - Player Ratings
Trafford 5
Assignon 6
O'Shea 3
Esteve 4
Taylor 6
Vitinho 7
Berge 8
Cullen 8
Bruun Larsen 5
Odobert 5
Fofana 3
Amdouni 3
Assignon 6
O'Shea 3
Esteve 4
Taylor 6
Vitinho 7
Berge 8
Cullen 8
Bruun Larsen 5
Odobert 5
Fofana 3
Amdouni 3
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The objective for the rest of the season
- Replies: 95
- Views: 5569
Re: The objective for the rest of the season
A lot? People always look back and reflect on really good or really disastrous teams that have played in the PL. No, not a lot. Who really talks about the five teams with the lowest point in PL history - I would suggest very few people. You're just creating a narrative and different angle to critic...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Get this clown out
- Replies: 203
- Views: 10246
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The objective for the rest of the season
- Replies: 95
- Views: 5569
Re: The objective for the rest of the season
How many times have you heard about or discussed the worst five teams in PL history, or is this just about finding something else to kick at when we are down?CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:23 pmI knew Villa and Sunderland were in there but not their respective points total.
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cullen
- Replies: 44
- Views: 2428
Re: Cullen
Cullen and Berge controlled the middle of the park - shame about the first and final third.
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The objective for the rest of the season
- Replies: 95
- Views: 5569
Re: The objective for the rest of the season
VK simply has to get more than 19 points; we do not want to be known as one of the five worst teams in PL history. https://theanalyst.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/lowest-points-in-a-premier-league-season.png https://theanalyst.com/eu/2024/02/worst-premier-league-teams/ https://theanalyst.com/eu/2...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lack of speed
- Replies: 26
- Views: 2009
Re: Lack of speed
Baffling how long we were taking on the ball at the back when we were getting beat.
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: No need to apologise
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4449
Re: No need to apologise
It's not the club model It's his model that he sold to the Board, and helped him convince Pace to spend circa £100m this summer on kids Not sure how many we actually signed this summer for £100m but that figure would have brought some reasonable experience into the side if Kompany had decided that ...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tad unlucky to lose today- me thinks!!
- Replies: 67
- Views: 3476
Re: Tad unlucky to lose today- me thinks!!
Not sure how anyone can watch that and conclude that O'Shea was MOM.
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:16 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Coleman and Bell
- Replies: 35
- Views: 3698
Re: Coleman and Bell
There's absolutely no chance Mee should be dropping down to play in League 2Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:14 amA player manager is a way forward it would be a good start for Ben Mee
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:36 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
- Replies: 180
- Views: 7062
Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
It's a good point. There just have to enforced changes. Very risky if Kompany doesn't.PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:33 amMuric starting today, will give us a better chance of winning the game for one reason. The change in atmosphere around the ground.
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:30 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Zaroury
- Replies: 31
- Views: 3459
Re: Zaroury
Odobert should be dropped. A complete luxury that we can’t afford currently. His performance level has certainly dropped. Personally I'd still start him today because he's one of our players most likely to open up Bournemouth. If he doesn't perform and show enough desire in the first half he should...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:49 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
- Replies: 180
- Views: 7062
Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
You are so entrenched in the Trafford/Muric divide - you highlighting and labelling that save as 'cracking' exemplifies that point.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:41 amGive credit for any decent saves Traff has made, just don't think he's particularly made many and his overall positioning is dreadful.
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:37 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
- Replies: 180
- Views: 7062
Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud_61KGbDEk Cracking save by our best goalkeeper at 00:56 as well If you look on SofaScore/FOTmob at the players' average positions in that game vs the league games you'll notice that the players are a lot more spread out over the pitch. Wonder why :P It was a standa...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:59 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
- Replies: 180
- Views: 7062
Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
If we get beat today without any changes, I fear there will be a significantly different tone at the Turf today, and Kompany would be leaving himself wide open.
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:56 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mark Clattenburg - Forest
- Replies: 30
- Views: 2873
Re: Mark Clattenburg - Forest
It should be banned
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:50 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley Grammar School/Habergham High School
- Replies: 157
- Views: 23685
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley Grammar School/Habergham High School
- Replies: 157
- Views: 23685
Re: Burnley Grammar School/Habergham High School
Does he still have them orange shorts?
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley Grammar School/Habergham High School
- Replies: 157
- Views: 23685
Re: Burnley Grammar School/Habergham High School
Gordon Alison, a Forest fan
Habergham had some brilliant Maths teachers - Saunders, Blezard, Sutcliffe, Bentley
Habergham had some brilliant Maths teachers - Saunders, Blezard, Sutcliffe, Bentley
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 3:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today's Football
- Replies: 178
- Views: 6404
Re: Today's Football
Second for Swansea
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
- Replies: 180
- Views: 7062
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:48 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
- Replies: 180
- Views: 7062
Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
Check the Final PL Table for 2021/22 and you will discover it was the 3 lowest scoring teams that were relegated not those that conceded most goals. That is a fact. Burnley only conceded 53 goals that season and plenty of clubs above us conceded more than that. We don’t create enough chances and th...
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:54 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
- Replies: 180
- Views: 7062
Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
It's multifaceted, including lack of goals, but our defensive weaknesses and mistakes, and the high number of goals conceded, which Trafford has clearly contributed to, have been crucial.LincsWoldsClaret wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:48 amWe aren’t going down because of our keeper - it’s because we can’t score goals or pass accurately
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:42 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ben Mee
- Replies: 40
- Views: 3413
Re: Ben Mee
Mee was excellent for us. But saying he was better than Tarkowski is stretching it somewhat.
- Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
- Replies: 180
- Views: 7062
Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
It's refreshing to see a subject that hasn't been, or has rarely been, discussed on here
- Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: No need to apologise
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4449
Re: No need to apologise
full presser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBEiiYh7aRE&t=147s short clip: https://x.com/BurnleyOfficial/status/1763644329430507943?s=20 Cheers. Only watched the short clip - might watch the full version later - and I wouldn't describe him as dejected, but acknowledge the tone may be different in...
- Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: No need to apologise
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4449
Re: No need to apologise
Haven't seen it be unsurprising and understandableCoolClaret wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:01 pmVK honestly looked like a different man in his presser today than the breathe of fresh air that we had last year, summer and even the sort of first third of the season.
Looked really dejected.
- Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ben Mee
- Replies: 40
- Views: 3413
Re: Ben Mee
You would like to think he would get a good reception after 10 years at the Turf but you never know … I mens Dwight McNeil should have been applauded but for some inexplicable reason booed every time touched the ball .. Thought McNeil got a good reception at Turf Moor, unlike at Goodison which was ...
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Season tickets next season
- Replies: 839
- Views: 60092
Re: Season tickets next season
Seriously considering not renewing The excellent work VK did the season before has been eradicated by some unknown belief that he could move to another higher level by buying inexperienced young guys who knew nothing about the Premier League And even when it was clear this plan was not working he f...
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fan's Voice
- Replies: 106
- Views: 5530
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tonights footy
- Replies: 71
- Views: 2701
Re: Tonights footy
Mellon scored
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:53 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Making the league more even
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2530
Re: Making the league more even
Yup, based on turnover etc Barcas is a lot less and they’ll have work to do this summer The point is, they’ve got one and they get on with it whilst English fans whinge at the very thought of it Yup, and you specifically referred to Real Madrid whose salary cap is enormous and substantially above w...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:50 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
- Replies: 85
- Views: 3998
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
I don't see how it can be anything other than this.
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Making the league more even
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2530
Re: Making the league more even
Real Madrid's salary cap exceeds €700m.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:07 pmLa Liga has a salary/budget cap
Real Madrid do well in Europe
They’re also widely regarded as the biggest club in world football
English football is known for overpaying average players
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8879
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Was a really good post I agreed with until “The only way ALK will make money out of Burnley is by selling the club.”. Consider the size of the investment (low), that most of it was debt (which will gradually get paid back) and the ever increasing fees for players even from mid ranked teams (e.g. Ca...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:59 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: REPORT: A long day out and another defeat
- Replies: 38
- Views: 3133
Re: REPORT: A long day out and another defeat
Can nothing be raised on fan advisory board about Trafford. This is cruelty to the lad now, putting him on the firing line every game. Not only that, Muric's distribution is what made us so dangerous last season. For some reason VK can't see around it. Good grief. One has to wonder how someone can ...
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Available Managers...
- Replies: 112
- Views: 5837
Re: Available Managers...
He's a winger and has missed multiple games through injuryCoolClaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:43 pmLukebakio with... checks notes... 2 goals in 12 for Sevilla?
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have we all calmed down today!!
- Replies: 54
- Views: 2885
Re: Have we all calmed down today!!
Stayed away from the posts today ,but it’s the same old same old ,from approx 5 pm on a Saturday posters (ranters ,people with agendas ,people that aren’t really Burnley fans ,people that should go and watch Rovers ,people that should remember how brilliant VK last season,people who hate JT ,people...
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:18 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Worried more about next season
- Replies: 42
- Views: 2639
Re: Worried more about next season
Getting your ducks in a row for next season - good planning.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:15 amIl be amazed if we are not promoted next season.
We will have by a country mile the most expensive squad. Anything but promotion will be a catastrophic failure
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:16 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Trafford Contract
- Replies: 90
- Views: 5482
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:36 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Simple vote for Kompany to stay or go…no debate
- Replies: 424
- Views: 16245
Re: Simple vote for Kompany to stay or go…no debate
I was referring to the point about the value of the outgoings being relevant.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:21 amhttps://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/burnley ... on_id/2022
Not 100% accurate but that isn't "cheap", it's well invsted, no doubt.
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:15 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Simple vote for Kompany to stay or go…no debate
- Replies: 424
- Views: 16245
Re: Simple vote for Kompany to stay or go…no debate
He's not wrong at all. Objectively or otherwise.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:59 pmYou might think it does, but you'd be objectively wrong.
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The stats don't lie
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1045
Re: The stats don't lie
Back to the Championship and hopefully Kompany and the Board will learn important lessons and we comeback stronger and better equipped.
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Defensive Coaching
- Replies: 45
- Views: 1832
Re: Defensive Coaching
Do you disagree?
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Defensive Coaching
- Replies: 45
- Views: 1832
Re: Defensive Coaching
The standard of the opposition last season is starkly different to this season. That's the mean reason.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:56 pmWhat's one of the reasons as to why we could keep the ball so well and not have to defend as much last season?
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: pace
- Replies: 89
- Views: 5898
Re: pace
I am flummoxed how people are still looking to blame Pace. Kompany is the manager, Kompany scouted the players (using his scouting network), Kompany has failed to deliver. Kompany HAS to go this weekend. Pace has backed his man, it worked last year, it’s failed this year. Some of the people on this...