it wasn't 20 but yes, we didn't need him either way
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- Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
- Replies: 61
- Views: 3437
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Premier league title
- Replies: 34
- Views: 1617
Re: Premier league title
City for me because I love watching KDB and Foden. Also, I despise fan bases that turn on a manager after a few defeats, Arsenals lot were trying their best to get Arteta sacked for a good few years so that rules them out. Liverpool fans don't seem to have any sort of 'fairness' radar - not a group ...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
All very true but I'm genuinely surprised at how Kompany has been unable to instil more discipline in the players as the season has progressed. The persistent poor timings of the goals and the very high constant number of red cards is evidence of a manager unable to be firm enough. tbh I'd say at l...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
Vegas -have been to Leicester games about 8 times this season. Lots of similarities with us last season. They will have major challenges if they go up. From what I have learned with ourselves they will be well short next year. Hermansen their GK is an exceptional young keeper and could thrive in th...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
I'll add, I 100% expected us to get relegated after the transfer window BUT I expected us to have at least another 10-12 points at this stage edit: I wrote the above incorrectly, I meant I expected us to finish with another 10-12 more than we have, I figured between 30-35 points at the end so we are...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
For sure - that's a huge factor. My point was more setting the team up for failure/success... It's up to the manager to have a style of play that maximises the talent available to them. Not shoehorn players into a certain style - because if it is that then you'll never have continuous success. If w...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man U/ Liverpool
- Replies: 45
- Views: 1903
Re: Man U/ Liverpool
right?!TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:06 pmThat can't be right, it sounds like a decision that's taken fans into consideration.
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man U/ Liverpool
- Replies: 45
- Views: 1903
Re: Man U/ Liverpool
Spurs game was supposed to be Monday night but got moved because of the train strike tomorrow
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: O'Shea ball control
- Replies: 48
- Views: 3281
Re: O'Shea ball control
Like most of the squad he's learning at this level, and needs to be cut some slack. When you are at the top you make errors and get away with it, at the bottom you get punished. and he' up against some of the best players around every other week, tough learning curve but he will only get better as ...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
But when we have so many 'individual mistakes' then perhaps it's because the system itself is weak? Management is about setting people (in this case a team of footy players) up for success; if the messaging isn't working then maybe it's the wrong message? there is a reason there are levels in footb...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
It was 54 and twice in 2017/18 and 2019/20. Those were remarkable returns and I’ll be astounded if we ever beat that in this league with any manager. and it's going to get tougher every year to stay up never mind beat those numbers. The money at the bottom of the league has run away in the last cou...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man U/ Liverpool
- Replies: 45
- Views: 1903
Re: Man U/ Liverpool
Sheff Utd 2-2
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3697
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man U/ Liverpool
- Replies: 45
- Views: 1903
Re: Man U/ Liverpool
Arsenal still have to go to Spurs and Man Utd and have Chelsea at home, I'd be surprised if they win all 3 of those
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man U/ Liverpool
- Replies: 45
- Views: 1903
Re: Man U/ Liverpool
it feels like Liverpool have had more chances in this game than we've had in half a season
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3697
Re: Post match interviews v Everton
that wasn't the point.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:59 pmWith hardly a penny spent because the money was going to the training ground.
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3697
Re: Post match interviews v Everton
Its not about luck. Its about managing players. People thought Dyche was 'lucky' with Joey Barton. But he was able to manage the player and get good value out of him - AND had built a dressing room with a strong team culture that ensured Barton couldn't step out of line. Danny Drinkwater kills your...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:00 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: How many goals do we concede just before half time
- Replies: 33
- Views: 1587
Re: How many goals do we concede just before half time
For the record I still wouldn't can him - just hoping that the manager and the board wise up a bit. They have to or we are royally screwed. I'm caught between being completely baffled how much of a pigs ear they made of it in the summer and having faith in them to bounce back next season. Logic say...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:38 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: How many goals do we concede just before half time
- Replies: 33
- Views: 1587
Re: How many goals do we concede just before half time
The goals conceded just before half time/full time, along with the discipline record are tell tale signs of poor management tbh. Odd occurrences can be put down to being coincidental but when it's a repeated, frequent pattern? Suggests that this is a problem. inexperience, can you imagine the diffe...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:27 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: How many goals do we concede just before half time
- Replies: 33
- Views: 1587
Re: How many goals do we concede just before half time
In terms of standards, I’ve observed a real lack of work rate from a number of players this season which shouldn’t be tolerated. So if Vinny does work hard, and I’m sure he does, this obviously doesn’t rub off on the squad as a whole. Those players not getting a bollocking, and then starting the ne...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:25 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: How many goals do we concede just before half time
- Replies: 33
- Views: 1587
Re: How many goals do we concede just before half time
everyone talking about sloppiness and nobody talking about the single biggest thing in professional sport - confidence. Ours has been shot since the first month and we never really recovered no matter the personnel or the tactics, getting smashed most weeks must be very difficult for any professiona...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:24 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: O'Shea ball control
- Replies: 48
- Views: 3281
Re: O'Shea ball control
I'm not surprised he's had an iffy season, the entire team has, confidence has been on the floor since day one for him.
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:21 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3697
Re: Post match interviews v Everton
in a season, pretty clear what I meant.fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:14 amOh right. I didn't know Kompany had two promotions from the Championship.
My mistake.
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:13 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3697
Re: Post match interviews v Everton
Which is what I said. Read it back. I give up with you. I don't need to read it back, you said in his first season we got relegated with more points. Well, lets give Dyche the relegated with more points trophy if it makes you feel better - the point I made was we still got relegated, who cares if w...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:07 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3697
Re: Post match interviews v Everton
But yet we still managed to stay up. Admittedly we were really struggling in his last season, but we still had more points from fewer games than we have now. In Dyche's first PL season we went down with 33 points and were competitive most of the time. I don't think we'll get anywhere near that now....
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3697
Re: Post match interviews v Everton
mate, we were ******* dreadful for at least the last 2-3 years under him and week after week he used to say we had played well. Undeniable
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3697
Re: Post match interviews v Everton
Dyche said it every week too and he was rarely right, the Everton fans are already sick of the same lines he comes out with every week. Typical manager speak, doesn't mean they are clueless.fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:36 pmOn his MOTD interview, he claimed we played well.
Absolutely clueless.
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3697
Re: Post match interviews v Everton
Edwards is a good manager, good man too. Whilst you would have to congratulate them on taking the risk on Barkley they are VERY lucky they got the version of him they did.Wokingclaret wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:46 pmNo leave it out, a better Manager that knows what is needed for this division
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
what website are you looking at for this info ? I'd be interested in browsing !Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:28 pmSouthampton are third in the championship for premier league experience. With over 100apps more than Norwich
Leicester are top by a mile. Leeds and Southampton are the closest to each other.
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
If it's just down to PL experienced players then why aren't Leicester an Leeds walking the League and how are Ipswich second ?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:00 pmDid Eddie Howe leave Dyche a squad with the most premier league experience in the league?
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
I don't doubt for one moment that all the style and finesse we saw last season was down to Kompany. It was a joy to watch at times. What I do doubt, very much so, is Kompany's ability to build his own core group of players who will police the dressing room and set a strong culture. It's strange bec...
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
we got rid of 16 players and brought in 15 (or something like that) - no ounce of credit for putting it all together or will we find that on Dyche's CV too ?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:00 pmDid Eddie Howe leave Dyche a squad with the most premier league experience in the league?
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
Muric cost about 3 million quid, Allison cost about 70, Ederson about 35 - would you expect him to be as good as them ? Bonkersfidelcastro wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:55 pmHe generally isn't as good as those two though.
Although you'd think he was, given some of the comments on here about him in recent weeks.
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3697
Re: Post match interviews v Everton
would that change the fact we are down or make you feel better ? Why would he need to explain something we already know and he has spoken about constantly already ?
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
worked well for Norwich, Southampton, Watford etc etc.forzagranata wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:48 pmAny normal football club would be looking to change manager of this season.
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
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Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
I know it does. I never said it didn't, but it cost us the game, or at least changed the way we had to try and get back into it. I was responding to someone who called it a freak goal, which it wasn't. Anyone who knows me (lucky them! :D ) will tell you last season I was constantly saying we'd need...
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
I define a freak goal as one you can't do anything about. This was entirely self inflicted. Breaking News: Player makes mistake Did you see the one 100 million quid Caicedo made for Chelsea against United ? Surely at 100 million he shouldn't be doing that or is it down to the fact he's young and re...
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
I do genuinely believe that last season was purely down to the ethos Dyche has imbedded in the key players in the squad. This next season will be a true indicator. It may sound harsh but I honestly couldn’t care less if we win every single game. He’s not a manager I want anywhere near this club wha...
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
I wonder why the promoted teams are the bottom 3, can't put my finger on the reason that would be.....
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
you don't get over 100 points in the Championship if you are a bad manager or are you suggesting a 46 game season was down to luck ?
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
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Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:49 pmI think the inevitable firesale will tell you the owners aren't exactly Abramovic!
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
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Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
yep, no argument123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:54 pmClub like ours part is pretty much every club outside the top 6. I find it crazy that a club with our finances can afford to have 15m players not even in the match day squad like we have this season. 15m players who don’t get in a best 11
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
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Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
It is true that we do not know how much money they have - what we do know is that apart from a strange £1m loan (which pales into insignificance against the £124.1m they have 'borrowed' from the club) is that up to account sign off date they have not put money into the club yep, hence my optimistic...
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
Clubs like ours can't afford to waste 100 million on players. We'll do very well to make a profit on any of them when they want away. thing is, the 'clubs like ours' is a bit of an unknown. We've no clue at all how much money the 'consortium' for want of a better term have (granted that's a VERY op...
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
I'm pointing out the obvious that people seem to struggle with mate, money guarantees nothing. Why aren't Chelsea top of the league ?fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:28 pmWe've spent a relative fortune, Viva.
I don't know why you keep defending the indefensible.
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
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Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
I agree with much of that, but if you're going to upgrade, then by definition, the new players need to be better than the players they have replaced. For the most part, they haven't been. Hard to do though, Brighton spent fortunes buying inadequate players before finding the gems. Leeds spent somet...
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Incredibly “ The Fat Lady “ still can’t gain entry !
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Re: Incredibly “ The Fat Lady “ still can’t gain entry !
we aren't getting a fat lady
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15795
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
Benson this Benson that zzzzzzz It’s pretty obvious we don’t have the defensive ability at fullback to carry a lazy weak winger. Foster 3 or 4 times in the first half was crucially back in his own box cutting out crosses. He wasn’t even trusted to start in the Championship every week. to be fair, B...
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 6:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3697