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- Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
- Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:09 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Why would you put a thrice defeated/ thrashed deal in front of the public? What Boris is doing has to be tried imo. The remainer HOC has blocked progress from day 1. A brexiteer should be given a chance to get a deal and there is a chance that threatening no deal could work. We seem to be heading f...
- Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:34 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
What a terrible proposal. None of those are any use, especially May's deal, which just about pisses off everyone. I voted leave and would again but would rather remain for now than hand all the cards to the EU. A GE must happen now but labour are worried about the outcome. Bet they wished they had ...
- Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:51 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Maybe not, but it's an example of a falsehood or misrepresentation quietly slipped by in an attempt to justify an argument. Far to many of those around.dsr wrote:I may have posted some controversial stuff, but I don't think that last statement is going to raise many hackles.
- Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:33 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
What I'm trying to say is that anyone who believed and believes that the UK will be financially better off post-Brexit is virtually certain to be someone who is temperamnetally and politically opposed to the EU anyway. I doubt that many people who tend towards liking the EU and thinking that the EU...
- Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:21 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
The UK government and civil service, lead by the Chancellor and Prime Minister, gave all sorts of detailed and confident predictions of the immediate financial meltdown that would follow a Brexit vote. On the other hand, as you point out, some optimists pointed to intangible and incalculable benefi...
- Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:03 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
For another, pre-referendum the UK voted to leave for political reasons while the EU wanted us to stay for both political and economic reasons; but post-referendum, the UK wants a financial deal that is good for both parties but the EU wants a financial deal that is bad for the UK. As you and many ...
- Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
I'd be happy with an election on the 1st November, it makes perfect sense. Shelve Brexit for a month or two and then use a GE to break the deadlock. As Brexit will be the only real issue in the GE someone should emerge with a consensus be it deal, no deal or remain or people's vote. I would prefer ...
- Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Leave means the just same as when the PM , David Cameron said Leave meant ,BEFORE , everybody voted. Ending free movement of people. Ending the jurisdiction of the ECJ Leaving the single market. Leaving the customs union. Why do remoaners want to rewrite what everybody knew Leave meant AFTER the re...
- Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Rees-Mogg has likely made a killing from Brexit and stands to make a lot more.jrgbfc wrote:It OK for all these millionaire Tories like Boris Johnson and Rees-Mogg to be pushing for no deal, if it all goes tits up it's not them who'll lose their jobs or be struggling to pay the mortgage is it?
- Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:57 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Rees-Mogg *chap whos newly EU relocated hedge fund is shorting the pound) on LBC this morning says we can't have a second referendum "because it would overturn the first one".
- Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Dean Marney
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3191
Re: Dean Marney
Last games he played appear to be from 18/19 year's FA cup in December & January
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- Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today's football
- Replies: 44
- Views: 4184
Re: Today's football
Hammers lead Canaries
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
But how many of those poorest areas are occupied by immigrants, or second generation migrants.They dont look on the world with same eyes as someone living in a poor area of Lancashire, who's family have lived here for generations. Same circumstances, but a completely different point of view. Colbur...
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
That sounds reasonable a ballot paper of remain or 6 different options of leaving. Do you think by splitting the vote youd have a chance to win? As I said to aggi, there is now way of wording it, other than it was, that doesn't undermine leave. Well if all the options were being campaigned for whic...
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Don't you also think it odd that with all this talk of regaining Sovereignty of our Parliament the EU are completely powerless to do anything regarding events in the last few days? They way Brexiteers talk, you'd think the EU has the power to control the things we do in the House of Commons. We're ...
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
there was no other way of wording the ballot paper, that wouldnt have served to undermine the leave vote. By presenting the many different and often mutually exclusive options all of which were campaigned for (with the exception of a No Deal) at once. Many said it was flawed from the beginning and ...
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nigel Farage’s Ego
- Replies: 24
- Views: 3096
Re: Nigel Farage’s Ego
Sonmeone who knows he can say whatever he likes, because he will never have to action them or deal with the consequences.
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
The new benchmark for Brexit being a success = the world not endingdsr wrote: And of course people will realise on 1st November that the sky hasn't fallen.
It was meant to be better.
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
If you truly believe that, why didn't you say something before the vote, or were you just stupid. Many many people said before the vote that a lot of the thing being promised were incompatible, it was a common cause for concern. I haven't heard anyone who voted to leave saying they only wanted to l...
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
The red lines were not on the ballot paper, neither was No Deal or Norway + etc.Colburn_Claret wrote: The red lines are Brexit
That's why we're in this mess, because the only thing Brexit means is... Brexit..?
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
I know, I just wanted the signature in but without all the guff about One Nation Conservatives, whom he's also shafted.SonofPog wrote:That's a bad (like really bad) photoshop surely, the two halves of paper aren't even the same colour.
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
All hail the lying PM!
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:56 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
- Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:50 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
3rd Brexit secretary suddenly understanding something everyone has been saying since day 1.
- Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
A little thing call context, upon which almost all of our rulings, laws, conventions etc are based.dsr wrote:How can the courts rule on it? Proroguing Parliament typically happens every year, and until recently it was at this time of year, and it's overdue. How can a court overturn it?
- Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
1, The government didn't produce leaked documents of an expected scenario, but a wrost-case scenario done on the basis that no preparations were made. The Yellowhammer leaked docs were not the worst case scenarios, as Gove tried to spin it (also lying about them being old when they were dated Augus...
- Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Hardly a threat. More of a statement - "This deal is so bad that every party in the House of Commons opposes it. If further negotiations don't lead to anything better, or further negotiations don't even happen, then we won't have a deal". If someone tries to sell you a car at a ridiculous price, an...
- Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
I’m talking about the two years when Davies was minister and zero progress was made. The actual deal was cut when May realised that the ‘no deal is better than a bad deal’ approach the government was taking was going to lead to exactly that, no deal. The facts are as they have been from day one, Le...
- Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:39 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Could you point out just one single occurrence where the leave campaign suggested voting to leave meant a no deal Brexit? Theresa May herself said No deal was better than a bad deal, and she is a remainer. If negotiations had been carried out by some who believed in Brexit we wouldnt even be having...
- Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:06 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Combat, you are one of few leave voters who are happy with what has gone on in Parliament over the last 3 years so forgive me if I disregard your comment as trivial Sorry I was playing the role of a leave voter. Just pointing out no deal was never campaigned on, nor is there is no mandate for it. S...
- Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Someone told me in 2016 we've have an excellent free trade deal like Norway or Switzerland, it was Nigel Farage in fact, I never heard about this 'no deal' so I voted to leave. Is that right?Elizabeth wrote:Someone told me remain voters lost the only relevant vote in 2016. Is that right?
- Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
- Replies: 22828
- Views: 1186172
Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth
It would not be fitting to let this day pass without posting a big 'Thank You', to Boris Johnson. It has been great to read all the desperate quotes from MPs and others who have been allowed to think they can stop what 17.4 million clearly voted for. It's not over by a long way but at last it's a p...
- Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Not so Mighty on the night Clarets versus Slumberland
- Replies: 371
- Views: 31324
Re: Mighty Clarets versus Slumberland
Too early to mention focusing on the league..?
- Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Not so Mighty on the night Clarets versus Slumberland
- Replies: 371
- Views: 31324
Re: Mighty Clarets versus Slumberland
One consolation, great song.burnleymik wrote:Will Grigg on fire belting out from Sunderland faithful now.
- Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: R.I.P. Dad
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2172
Re: R.I.P. Dad
I'm sure he may have sung Burnley til I die, but the truth is he'll be a Claret forever.
- Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: First name on the teamsheet?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2687
Re: First name on the teamsheet?
Aaron Lennon, if you have OCD.
- Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:03 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Hacksaw ridge
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2985
Re: Hacksaw ridge
Found the action a bit OTT in terms of stunt choreography. There's explosions everywhere which without fail throw people through the air. Once or twice, cool, but I'm sure not every single grenade in WWII launched someone off the ground.
- Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The game has gone mad
- Replies: 50
- Views: 8564
Re: The game has gone mad
How’s VAR to blame? Didn’t the ref give the pen? Or are we whinging in general? I'd argue that VAR is to blame because it's clear this season they are backing referee penalty decision, so far, 100% of the time. Making it almost redundant with the exception of the offside checks. They said themselve...
- Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Any news on JBG?
- Replies: 42
- Views: 7318
Re: Any news on JBG?
Tool alert out for a midnight fish.Giftonsnoidea wrote:His injuries are becoming a joke, too many sick notes in the squad need to get rid
- Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Any news on JBG?
- Replies: 42
- Views: 7318
Re: Any news on JBG?
Trying to anything in the T&C's
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- Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: NEVER EVER
- Replies: 89
- Views: 9873
Re: NEVER EVER
For clubs like us, I believe VAR is more fair to us. The big club bias we've seen against us appears to be something that VAR can remove from the game. It's the main reason I am personally for VAR. So when VAR said at the start of the season they would set a "high bar" on overturning decisions, ess...
- Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: We look an impressive side
- Replies: 37
- Views: 5627
Re: We look an impressive side
I agree we look solid and coherent.
Table looks great but then you realise were 8 places up on goal difference.
Was hoping some more teams would still be on 1s & 0s still
Table looks great but then you realise were 8 places up on goal difference.
Was hoping some more teams would still be on 1s & 0s still
- Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: NEVER EVER
- Replies: 89
- Views: 9873
Re: NEVER EVER
Course it was a penalty.. VAR check all angles.. it's not a inplay instant judgment decision. Like said above if that was us, we would be fuming if it wasn't given. VAR makes things 100% fair (wether certain rules are fair or not) but VAR follows the rule by the letter. We will get rightful decisio...
- Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wolves Imports versus MIGHTY CLARETS
- Replies: 228
- Views: 17958
Re: Wolves Imports versus MIGHTY CLARETS
well var is more inconsistent than refs..the tackle on silva not given today quite clearly stood on his foot ,,,and the one against pieters which is less obvious is...a joke I don't think VAR has overtunerd a ref decision yet this season as to pen or no pen, ManU had two l nailed on pens denied. Cl...
- Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wolves Imports versus MIGHTY CLARETS
- Replies: 228
- Views: 17958
Re: Wolves Imports versus MIGHTY CLARETS
5mins + penalty faffing, var check, pen taking & resetTread Warily wrote:9 mins of injury time played,where did that come from?
- Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today's footy
- Replies: 71
- Views: 6231
Re: Today's footy
Give me strength 1st half Cahill drags down a player through on goal, gets a yellow, should be off. Now Martial dragged down in the box, nothing. Both denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity. VAR quite happy to rule out lovely goals because of a millimeter three passes hence but not actually get...
- Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today's footy
- Replies: 71
- Views: 6231
Re: Today's footy
Watford losing already
- Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today's footy
- Replies: 71
- Views: 6231
Re: Today's footy
Not bad for a free transfer
- Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: what3words
- Replies: 54
- Views: 6080
Re: what3words
ClaretTony wrote:I’ve just arrived at simple.easy.convenient but there is no London Bridge in sight