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by Royboyclaret
Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

It could be the pre-season game at Bury August 68: 701571-4.jpg This is Bury 1967 taken at Gigg Lane in which the stand behind looks similar. imgID104505144.jpg.gallery.jpg Ah right, now it all makes sense, Bury it is then in a pre-season friendly at Gigg Lane. Clearly the team photo was our early ...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

1.jpg Another great team photo W_C_Z. Is that before the first game of the 1968/69 season at the City Ground, Forest? The team that day was......Thomson, Angus, Latcham, O'Neil, Waldron, Merrington, Coates, Lochhead, Casper, Bellamy & Thomas........A young 20 years old Martin Dobson and Len Kinsell...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Any body got a pic of Burnley v New Brighton fav 1957. We played in navy shirts which I think is the only time ever. I remember when Burnley took to the field nobody cheered as they thought it was New Brighton. Still a mystery why we played in Navy For anyone who has the "Burnley....A Complete Reco...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

ClaretTony wrote:Wasn’t referring to the YouTube but the pic. No way as I can see of determining which of the two games.
The youtube clip shows Noble scoring and wearing No.7, which he did at Arsenal in '74/'75.

In the pic he's wearing long sleeves and and he wore No.2 in '73/'74.

Can't be much clearer than that.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Not sure whether that Arsenal v Burnley pic is 73/74 or 74/75. We sort of wore that kit at Sheffield United but only the shirt. We had white shorts and claret socks that day. Definitely '73/'74 in the pic in post #185. Take a look at the youtube of Noble scoring in post #191. He's wearing No.7 and ...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9978
Views: 1013724

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Like you Roy I am a little sceptical as to the figures - especially as he has not said what data he has used - can't imagine we have records at companies house going back that far - though I do like the fact we are the only founder member with an overall profit - though it looks like we have swappe...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9978
Views: 1013724

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

@KieranMaguire looks at the 4 primary types of financing in football - then looks at the entire history for financial performance in football and finds only 11 clubs have a trading profit over their lifetime - we are one (coming 5th overall - top of the founder members and some £362m more than them...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leaving as a claret
Replies: 52
Views: 5199

Re: Leaving as a claret

Worth pointing out that at the exact time of leaving Mac was far from a fan of the Club, and Bob Lord in particular. Plenty of animosity between the two and some of Mac's departing words as he left us included " Good enough for my country but not for my Club."
by Royboyclaret
Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jimmy McIlroy
Replies: 22
Views: 2476

Re: Jimmy McIlroy

Simply the best.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Goals galore at the Oval in Belfast
Replies: 6
Views: 1417

Re: ARTICLE: Goals galore at the Oval in Belfast

That first league game at Leeds was the first time I visited Elland Road. Still remember it but for very contrasting reasons. We played really well to win 3-2 for the first of several away wins that season, but proudly showing off my Claret & Blue scarf on the way back to Dad's car some Leeds fan de...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Steve1956 wrote:I'm sure there is a you tube video with Noble scoring ..maybe 73/4
Steve, that was the following season '74/'75 when Uwe scored in a 1-0 win.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:28 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Didnt we win there 1-0 in that kit ,? Think it was 1-1 with a Brady own goal giving us a point. Remember the first away game of that '73/'74 season at Sheff Utd when we ran out in that kit. It was quite a shock to the system as we'd only been used to a white alternative shirt in previous seasons. O...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Steve1956 wrote:Roy can you name the guys in the yellow strip though? :D
Wouldn't know where to start, mate. Well, apart from 3 or perhaps 4.

Can anyone else?
by Royboyclaret
Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Steve1956 wrote:You sure know your stuff Roy,I wasn't even born...imagine that. :D
I thought I was the luckiest little lad in Lancashire, I could actually watch them train at Gawthorpe from my bedroom window. :)
by Royboyclaret
Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andy Lonergan
Replies: 34
Views: 4400

Re: Andy Lonergan

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Used to love away days at their place. That huge stand behind the goal bouncing. Not always had the best results but worth it for King Arthur
Played in beautifully by a Messi-like Alan Moore.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg Can anyone put names to the middle team can only make out Adamson. Steve, that's 1955 at Gawthorpe, the first summer we moved in. Back Row......David Smith, Les Shannon, Harold Rudman, Colin McDonald, Bobby Seith & Doug Winton. Front Row.......Billy Gray, Peter McKa...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Cheers again W_C_Z for the team photos.

This time 1960/61 (after Pilky had departed for Bolton) and 1962/63 (with the Wembley strip), I think.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Tricky Trevor wrote:You are always my first port of call. Who is the player to the right of Harry Thomson, in the middle photo? I know the rest.
Trevor, that's Freddie Smith.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

First pictures ive ever seen of the old brunshaw road stand. Andy, that stand had a life of some 61 years, from 1908 until it was used for the very last time against Sunderland in April 1969. Took a while for it to be replaced though and the Bob Lord stand was opened against Villa in Feb. 1974 and ...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Here’s our third kit....
Replies: 89
Views: 16132

Re: Here’s our third kit....

Looks good, unveiled at Arsenal tomorrow, then.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Superb team photos W_C_Z.

Perhaps 1967/68, 1964/65 and 1963/64 in that order.

Be quite something if we could assemble team/squad photos for every year of the Club's existence. I have some from the 1880's, 1890's and 1900's.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

ClaretTony wrote:Never mind that, what a fanstatic player getting the shot in
Looking beyond Brian in the photo, is that hoarding separating the CFS terracing to the Longside?

Would that have been one of the last home games before the CFS terracing was demolished in 1967/68?
by Royboyclaret
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick on 'Turf More'
Replies: 136
Views: 26622

Re: Mike Garlick on 'Turf More'

agreenwood wrote:The bit about wages was interesting.

I don’t think it was long ago he was saying that fees aren’t the problem, but wages were.
Well, wages certainly wouldn't be a problem bringing a player here from Leeds.
by Royboyclaret
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is this the worst penalty ever taken at the Turf?
Replies: 35
Views: 4587

Re: Is this the worst penalty ever taken at the Turf?

Quicknick wrote:Informative post. Both sets of fans in the CF End.
Aye, no segregation of fans back then, Quicknick. And no bother whatsoever.

Full team was......Des Thompson, Jock Aird, Harold Mather, Jimmy Adamson, Tommy Cummings, Reg Attwell, Billy Gray, Jimmy Mac, Bill Holden, Les Shannon & Brian Pilkington.
by Royboyclaret
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is this the worst penalty ever taken at the Turf?
Replies: 35
Views: 4587

Re: Is this the worst penalty ever taken at the Turf?

Brilliant footage. 52,011 attendance and 48,284 for the replay on a Wednesday afternoon which we lost 1-0. http://www.uptheclarets.com/fixtures-results/195354-results" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Superb footage and first time seen, for me. The match was in Jan'54 and it's odd to s...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Antwerp in for Defour
Replies: 102
Views: 14189

Re: Antwerp in for Defour

Apparently nothing it but not sure why you’d be gutted, he doesn’t play. Simple answer to that is we'd be losing our finest footballer since Jimmy Mac. If, as Dyche now says, he's back running on the grass, perhaps in a month or so time he'd be ready to form a partnership in midfield with Drinkwate...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Antwerp in for Defour
Replies: 102
Views: 14189

Re: Antwerp in for Defour

Looks like I'm in a minority, along with C&J, who would be gutted to see him leave.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Venky's support for t'Roverrrs ...
Replies: 54
Views: 6853

Re: Venky's support for t'Roverrrs ...

It's getting harder each year, look at the likes of Derby, Leeds etc. Yeah we were fortunate with the first promotion under Dyche, everything just went our way, but Rovers look miles off that right now. From a financial point of view they are hardly geared up for a promotion push. With a Wages/Turn...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: First Turf Moor floodlights switched on
Replies: 25
Views: 3449

Re: ARTICLE: First Turf Moor floodlights switched on

The steelwork was done by Watson’s of Bolton and the towers were identical to those at Burnden Park. If memory serves there were 48 bulbs on reach tower. Those original floodlights lasted just 18 years before being replaced in the mid-1970's at a cost of £30,000. The new lights were first used for ...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: First Turf Moor floodlights switched on
Replies: 25
Views: 3449

Re: ARTICLE: First Turf Moor floodlights switched on

Roy Stephenson in the Blackburn side that night. He'd been at Burnley for 7 years from '49 to '56 and was a decent little player. No real recollections of that game but remember Dad taking me to Peel Park (perhaps a couple of seasons later) for the switch on of Accy's new floodlights when we were th...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

tim_noone wrote:CT has it....
Aye, on closer inspection CT has it because the new CFS opened in August 1969.

In fact the last game for the CF terracing was December 1967.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9978
Views: 1013724

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Is this something Burnley has/currently do?
No indication from the accounts that Burnley adopt this policy, although clearly many PL clubs now do.

Simply means that we wait say three years, over installments, for the full transfer fee to be received.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Great pic of Ralphy, all about blood, sweat and tears and how he always gave his last ounce of effort in every game.

Shot of the ground looks to be dated in the early 80's with the sloping back of the Bee Hole End.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9978
Views: 1013724

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

For anyone left wondering how Arsenal made a widely reported £45m transfer budget pay for over well £100m of purchases @SwissRamble explains all https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1161170044086341632" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Top drawer analysis yet again from Swiss Ramble....
by Royboyclaret
Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Couldn't manage for the same reason he had to finish playing though Must be the briefest managerial career of all time. Hard to believe Martin will now be 70 years old, seems like only yesterday he was here at Burnley but he was 36 at the time. He said he was bitterly disappointed by his decision t...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting stats
Replies: 26
Views: 3137

Re: Interesting stats

Shearer, for me, nailed it on MOTD when he said Barnes now has the belief that he belongs in the Prem.

That belief counts for a hell of a lot when goal-scoring opportunities arise at this top level.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

ClaretTony wrote:About four months
Buchan must have had serious doubts regarding his ability to make that transition from player to manager. The two year contract he was offered remained unsigned and just 110 days after his appointment he quit.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

EarbyClaret wrote:CT's post #53 - who is the other goalkeeper next to Alan Stevenson and who is on the end of the front row next to Eric Probert?

cheers
Jeff Parton & Paul Bradshaw.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Reached the peak of our spending...
Replies: 40
Views: 6005

Re: Reached the peak of our spending...

Not for one minute do I think we've reached the peak of our potential spending power. The overseas broadcast Income has just increased by 35% for the current three year deal and with the continuing emergence and growth of the Chinese market there's no reason to believe a similar increase won't be av...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Is that a young David Davies interviewing Casper?

If so, he was on the BBC News channel just last week reviewing the newspapers.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:37 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Morgan was here from 1960 when he was 16 Fair enough, had it in my head Morgan became an apprentice in late '61. On that Tottenham pic, of course we played them again some seven weeks later in the FA Cup Final. Between the league game on the Turf and the Wembley final we played 13 League and Cup ga...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

ClaretTony wrote:Pitch looks in good nick for the Spurs game
Look at the packed Longside. 46,810 on that day in March'62.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Not sure he ever played in the first team and don’t know a lot (anything) about him, but that’s who it is. Pic probably 1959 so aged about 16. Gonna be a bit later than that, George, because Willie Morgan only arrived here in October '61. So either late '61 or even '62 when Morgan would have been 1...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

How do you remember goals that were scored over 50 years ago,the memories of some posters on here amazes me,I find it hard to remember last seasons goals. Steve, great memories last forever. That win against Liverpool was very special, Irvine scored the first with the best header I've ever seen fro...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Oo_George wrote:Here is the rest of the OP’s picture.
Blimey, Willie Irvine looks about 14 as well.

Who's the lad in the middle?
by Royboyclaret
Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Ralphy, great player and a very humble man. One of the very best.

Two of my favourite goals of Ralph's, against Liverpool on the Turf in '66 when we beat them 2-0 and against Napoli the following January when he played centre-forward and scored in our 3-0 win.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121137

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Willie was 17 years old when he arrived here, but he looks more like 14 in the photo!! Reputed to be the first British player to have his own fan club. He replaced John Connelly in our team in the early sixties and later both John and then Willie left us for Man Utd, both terrific players and yet co...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 679733

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Let's say you worked in sales, with a relatively low basic salary topped up by commissions, and you had a period in which those commissions went through the roof for reasons that you could only partially control - and you knew that as a result, while it was nice while it lasted, those commissions w...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 679733

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Spijed wrote:But even though we can pay transfer fees can we afford to pay the wages as well?
Spijed.....it's all there in #3631 & #3633.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 679733

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Lord Beamish wrote:We have pots of cash but can’t get deals over the line because of our wage structure. Whichever end is up, however you look at it, we can’t compete in the Transfer Market. Saying we choose not to is making a virtue of a neccesity.
To avoid repetition, see post #3631.