Arsenal do.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 3:29 pmyeah that's smart - do other clubs not do the same ? (us included)
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- Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Info - Chelsea (a)
- Replies: 26
- Views: 1811
Re: General Info - Chelsea (a)
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 7936
Re: Mud analytics
Maybe things will change but there is no indication at the moment that there are significant monies going through MUD. If you compare it to something like Agents' fees you'll see millions going out through there. A third party doing analytics isn't that unusual, although part owned by a manager is u...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Clarets vs Bournemouth - Match Thread
- Replies: 472
- Views: 10450
Re: Clarets vs Bournemouth - Match Thread
Where was this consequential contact thing against Villa?
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Clarets vs Bournemouth - Match Thread
- Replies: 472
- Views: 10450
Re: Clarets vs Bournemouth - Match Thread
Assignon on the wing maybe. He kept appearing there last week which the wingers didn't seem to be expecting.
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:49 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Coleman and Bell
- Replies: 35
- Views: 3547
Re: Coleman and Bell
Seems like the relationship has been breaking down for a while from following Andy Holt on twitter.
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8255
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Because what is the alternative? There has been £80 million of external investment into a business like Burnley with no equity, publicity or anything? There are mystery individuals who lend tens of millions to pay off loans when required? ALK couldn't find enough money to pay the former owners up f...
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:16 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12654
- Views: 1224758
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Deja vu Kettering Capital Comapnies House 2024 02 26.png Calder Vale Holdings Comapnies House 2024 02 26.png Confirmation statements have now been filed. For Calder Vale and Kettering Capital. Calder Vale is still owned by Kettering Capital, Kettering Capital is still owned by Velocity Sports Ltd i...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8255
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
And that to some extent answers all your points above. If ALK can get short term loans of tens of millions then how can you know that they haven't used these kind of loans along with clever financial management to defer inter company loans to the summer of 2023. No to avoid it being published in th...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8255
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
It depends how you define high interest, really. However you swing it, the interest on the new loan is going to be £6m a year or so. Compared with the figure before we took out that loan, £zero. Every year, BFC is paying out large sums of interest on a loan that benefits the club not at all , and t...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8255
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Thanks for this, have had a good look now. So go back to £170m for 84% valuing bfc at £202m. Think you said somewhere, can't find, that ALK now at 94% bought up more shares, that's £190m or thereabouts. Is that financed ALK £10m, Bank £65m, bfc £115m, total £190m. The 'bank' figure has seen various...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8255
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
We have always been a selling club but we cannot simply be a club that only buys with a view to being able to sell at a profit I don’t know who picked the summer signings was it Vince , Pace or Williams ? Whoever it was got it badly wrong by just looking at profit rather than building a team The ot...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
- Replies: 85
- Views: 3719
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
If the result and the performance are there then I'd say, by definition, Kompany has got the team sheet right.
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: First three April fixtures will not be televised
- Replies: 17
- Views: 1808
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Magic Numbers 23/24
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1012
Re: Magic Numbers 23/24
Bumping for those who really want to see it.
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Magic Numbers
- Replies: 3
- Views: 452
Re: Magic Numbers
I did it at the start of the season but for some reason the interest hasn't quite been there.
Let me track it down.
Let me track it down.
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8255
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
If we don’t get back up after 3 years ( more than possible) how is the debt then serviced and will the asset sales cover this ? Then what are we left with ? I’m not desperate for Burnley to be in the Premier League. I would be quite content if we were a stable Championship club like we were for man...
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8255
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
technically ALK/VSL owe the club £114.8m and because it is not carrying interest it can be called in at any time - even the accounts note this. We do not know, if that debt was transferred to Velocity Capital (UK) Holdings Ltd from Calder Vale Holdings Limited when the controlling shareholding in t...
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8255
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
I agree with all of that, and I do understand why people feel like that, but the time to criticise is when it goes pear shape, not now. Although arguably when it goes pear shaped is too late. It's failing at the moment but we are quite a way from it being failed. Go down and learn some lessons abou...
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:21 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12654
- Views: 1224758
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
At present, it is to ALK's advantage to keep BFC running because the assets are greater than the liabilities, mainly because we could certainly sell a few players and have parachute money to come in. If we don't get back up within 2 years and have heavy contract liabilities and bank loans and the l...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12654
- Views: 1224758
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
I would really like to know in the worst case scenario and the Americans pulled without servicing the debts what would happen to BFC ? I don't think that's really a scenario. It's not as easy as many think to asset strip a business, particularly a football club, so what would be in it for ALK? They...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: REPORT: A long day out and another defeat
- Replies: 38
- Views: 3046
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: REPORT: A long day out and another defeat
- Replies: 38
- Views: 3046
Re: REPORT: A long day out and another defeat
Good report CT especially for us that didn’t attend. It must be disappointing having to write similar reports each week. It doesn’t change much does it. Incidentally I don’t know how you manage all this standing at grounds, your knees must be holding up well. Thanks for the report. It was surprisin...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Everton points deduction reduced
- Replies: 122
- Views: 7093
Re: Everton points deduction reduced
It's hardly anything new though. Loads of teams got promoted to the Premier League after breaching Championship FFP rules and all they got was a slap on the wrist.
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Everton points deduction reduced
- Replies: 122
- Views: 7093
Re: Everton points deduction reduced
Summary:
Can't say I'm familiar enough with the EFL rules to judge whether that is a reasonable benchmark.
Can't say I'm familiar enough with the EFL rules to judge whether that is a reasonable benchmark.
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 17961
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Was that a red? Looked harsh from the stands
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Transfer electronic tickets
- Replies: 5
- Views: 580
Re: Transfer electronic tickets
They can only be in one wallet at any time but you should be able to remove them from the wallet, forward the email and someone else add them.
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Rosenior comment last night on Hull performance
- Replies: 33
- Views: 3073
Re: Rosenior comment last night on Hull performance
It isn't that simple though, especially with a young squad, new to this country, new to this league. You build a team around experienced solid performers. Hence a strong spine down the middle. We screwed up badly with hindsight, not keeping, or buying a couple of leaders on the pitch. I suspect, al...
- Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2023/24: Crystal Palace v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 60
- Views: 3393
- Tue Feb 20, 2024 6:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2023/24: Crystal Palace v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 60
- Views: 3393
Re: 2023/24: Crystal Palace v Burnley – Ticket Information
It looks like it's an NFC ticket so it's not a barcode or qr you can print, you have to add it to your wallet and hold your phone to the reader.
- Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mission To Burnley Series 2
- Replies: 62
- Views: 3550
Re: Mission To Burnley Series 2
Honestly what makes you come to that conclusion? Take last year out of the picture. This season alone, be it man management, tactics, in-game decisions. What has he done that makes you think he'll have a decent management career at a pretty high level? His name alone will give him time and job opps...
- Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mission To Burnley Series 2
- Replies: 62
- Views: 3550
Re: Mission To Burnley Series 2
I hear there's going to be a back alley and some cobbled streets on it so I would like to register my early disgust at that.Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:08 pmWill we be spared ten pages of people judging it before it’s even been released this time?
- Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Time to hear from Chairman Pace
- Replies: 36
- Views: 4134
Re: Time to hear from Chairman Pace
For the opposite approach it's interesting to follow Andy Holt (Stanley owner) on twitter.
He's very open and it's interesting to read but I'm not sure whether airing all that he does is positive for the club or not.
He's very open and it's interesting to read but I'm not sure whether airing all that he does is positive for the club or not.
- Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Everton v Palace
- Replies: 78
- Views: 3135
Re: Everton v Palace
As good a manager as he is, I can’t see Dyche lasting much longer. As we’ve seen on this board of late, it’s very difficult to please the modern day fan and Everton fans are a tough crowd at the best of times. The Everton fans I know are just enjoying a bit of stability and pragmatism under Dyche, ...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:55 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Potter?
- Replies: 34
- Views: 2351
Re: Potter?
Really? Potter has proved himself to be an excellent premier league manager. No one has managed to get a tune out of Chelsea so he can’t be judged on that. Excellent may be pushing it. Until Potter left, Brighton were underperforming their xG consistently. It took a new manager coming in to push th...
- Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 659
- Views: 61729
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
It was pretty obvious. We all know you've never drunk a pint of bitter in your lifedandeclaret wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:49 pmAbove post was a joke of course, before it gets taken as too seriously..... I feel all Sean Dyche in a press conference now that I've confirmed that.
- Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:33 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New York
- Replies: 63
- Views: 3378
Re: New York
On one of my trips to NY I went to watch New York City FC in the Yankees stadium. Particularly weird as it was the club's first ever game, a really bizarre atmosphere.
- Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Superbowl parade shooting
- Replies: 52
- Views: 2487
Re: Superbowl parade shooting
I've only been into any Walmarts in Texas and Nevada and nothing, my brother lives in Wisconsin so I'll ask him if he's seen any up that way - he's never mentioned it and knowing how anti-gun he is I'm sure he would have done. It must vary by state as you say. Where do you live aggi ? I'm in London...
- Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Superbowl parade shooting
- Replies: 52
- Views: 2487
Re: Superbowl parade shooting
Never seen anything gun related in a single supermarket or generic sports store. The ONLY non gun shop place I've seen a gun in was Bass Pro Shops in the hunting section - but they absolutely has AR15's etc. You can't just go in and buy one from those stores though, they do (for what they are worth...
- Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Superbowl parade shooting
- Replies: 52
- Views: 2487
Re: Superbowl parade shooting
I reckon in the 15 years I've been here I've probably been in 40+ grocery stores, not once have I seen a single 'gun' related item let alone ammo in any of them.......and that includes 6.5 years living in Texas !!! Doesn't Walmart sell ammo? It may be limited by state but it definitely used to and ...
- Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:17 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Superbowl parade shooting
- Replies: 52
- Views: 2487
Re: Superbowl parade shooting
He was busyBordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:53 amNo good guys around with guns again i see, until it’s too late.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/bizarre-f ... or-gunshot
- Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kayak?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2527
Re: Kayak?
Some sound information so far thanks. How do you go about getting insurance for a car here when you aren't sure of which car you'll get, and certainly the reg number? It's car hire excess insurance you're getting. It's basically insurance against being charged by the car hire company, not insurance...
- Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New York
- Replies: 63
- Views: 3378
Re: New York
I don't read red tops, or any other newspaper for that matter. I live close enough to and travel regularly enough into London and the smell of cannabis is omnipresent. Maybe not on the scale of NYC (this will be my first visit so i can't comment yet) but it is certainly one of the most pervasive ar...
- Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New York
- Replies: 63
- Views: 3378
Re: New York
Lots of places closed down since I last went pre-covid. https://www.eataly.com/us_en/new-york-city has some decent Italian options including the rooftop bar at Flatiron. https://thedeadrabbit.com/ for expensive drinks https://mothersruinnyc.com/ for not as expensive drinks https://www.legends33.com/...
- Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kayak?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2527
Re: Kayak?
Hi all, I'm looking to rent a car abroad and I have come across Kayak. Have any of you had experience with them, and are they any good? TIA Kayak have been around for years, they're owned by booking.com. They're just an agent and the booking will be with a specific hire firm. I normally tick collec...
- Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 659
- Views: 61729
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
I enjoyed the Payton episode. Interesting contrast to the Duff one and the difference in the two eras of football not that far apart.
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: VAR (AGAIN)
- Replies: 44
- Views: 3024
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:47 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Times: Burnley owner tries to heal rift over EFL package deal
- Replies: 25
- Views: 2464
Re: The Times: Burnley owner tries to heal rift over EFL package deal
https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/1756199906287448305?t=Xsr-PsMAZpQrmoRxUO0EqQ&s=19 I don't think Burnley are sounding like the good guys on here. I don't think that's specifically aimed at Burnley. They're just an illustration of a club that has spent more time in the football league than premi...
- Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 659
- Views: 61729
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
No of course. But a world class passer would get a lot further in the game. Tackling itself isnt the skill, its reading the game and anticipating where the ball's going to go so you can intercept. World class players dont get tackled very often. Pep also famously said he never practices tackling, i...
- Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Did we change too much or too little?
- Replies: 84
- Views: 3250
Re: Did we change too much or too little?
Well it does if you read the rest of what i said. Well that's a speculative the amount of change was fine, it was just the wrong change. Obviously it's hard to tell but going from a team with 100+ points in the Championship to this position suggests that something is the problem. It's not unusual t...
- Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Did we change too much or too little?
- Replies: 84
- Views: 3250
Re: Did we change too much or too little?
The amount of change has been absolutely fine, just a bit unbalanced and lacking physicality needed for this level (which we’ve clearly gone to rectify in Jan). If we had these 3 signings since the start we’d be over 20 points right now. Absolutely fine doesn't really tally with 3 wins and 13 point...