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Vegas Claret wrote:hope Stoke carry this performance on on Tuesday !

Me too too!

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Caernarfon_Claret wrote:When did Wardy last put a foot wrong?

Against Denmark

You know when somebody knows the spirit in which a post was written.

But..........

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When was the last time that Stephen Ward put a foot wrong?

He's an absolute rock. The quiet man that just gets on with his job. And does it to perfection.

And how much did he cost?!

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Thought she was pretty weak to be honest, certainly I wouldn't want an expert in her field saying that economists can't predict accurately in advance. I get that they can be wrong, but how else does anyone plan if you can't do that? Bernard Jenkins was appalling if you knew anything about the EU, b...

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Ha Ha this is nothing new at all, read THE KALERGI PLAN, the Bildebergs don't just meet for coffee, if you can't get the Kalergi documents let me know I'll let you read them what you are hearing now was planned in the Bildeberg Hotel in the late 40's The Bilderburg group that even denied it's own e...

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Dazzler wrote:Not sure if anyone listened to this when I first posted it,but Tony Gosling explains how there are financial similarities with the EU and Nazi Germany.

https://youtu.be/oAq1q1_swyM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hitchens has drawn similar conclusions.

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Same old England.

Helping Europe!

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Not very PC but that's a good effort Eddie. I think you should try and get that going in the Bob Lord v Watford Exactly! Referring to Italian people as "wops" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I think there's a Guardian subscription cancellation coming thru the letter box of Eduardos, it's not racist if I sa...

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evensteadiereddie wrote:Ringo the Dingo, full of snide.
Foams at the mouth and is swivel-eyed.
Hates the Krauts, the Poles and the Wops.
But he's bloody good when it comes. To. Full. Stops.

Evensteadiereddie, it's really time to go to bed now.

All tucked up with your favourite teddy.

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ontario claret wrote:USE=Germany running the show=what Hitler wanted. Isn't this what WW2 was fought for?

What Hitler couldn't do with tanks.

The EU is doing with politicians and banks.

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Meine Damen und Herren, may I introduce you to the 4th Reich..... I'm so proud that the majority of my fellow countrymen were intelligent enough, to see what lay ahead if we were to remain in the European Union. They, once again, looked the nation, that has never been able to rid itself of the domin...

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ClaretMoffitt wrote:I do love how you don't mince your words Ringo.

Respect to you also, my right-minded friend!

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https://preview.ibb.co/m0b4Cw/24312878_742471222628881_5708358357584708806_n.jpg Yet when we said this was the aim of the EU during the referendum campaign we were called scaremongers and conspiracy theorists. The likes of Cameron and Clegg all knew this was the aim, yet lied to us anyway. Yet we n...

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Crap. Total, utter crap. If its a United States of Europe, do you really think that the president will be unelected? The commissioners will be unelected? The fact that they are not unelected now is kinda relevant as well. But you're not denying it was the plan all along are you! "The fact that they...

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Martin Schultz "I want a United States of Europe by 2025. Anybody not agreeing? There out!" It was always about it. Ted Heath knew it. Thatcher new it. Blair new it. Major new it. Brown new it. Cameron knew it. May knows it. It was never just about a trading bloc. With the announcement of an EU army...

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I don't normally get involved in these, quite often, pointless debates but just for you I will make an exception. Not to argue the point with you, you understand, just to offer my views on your mental state. Are you really as stupid as you make out. Really!!! Nobody could actually be that stupid.....

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Bordeauxclaret wrote:I’m just concerned you’ll look stupid. Again.

You won’t be able to help yourself.

Do try to not let it bother you. It certainly doesnt me.

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Didn’t you also say you’d never converse with imploding turtle again? That lasted about a week didn’t it? No. Why do you think the idiot counts the number of times I've rebuffed him with the same one liner. Not sure how many times but I'm sure he'll have the latest up to date figures on it, filed a...

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I really wouldn't bother Ringo. .This " very middle class " creature is vile. His posts are Evidence of it. An attention craving maggot. Not fit to call himself a Claret. While he was doing his spewing his bile on here, I had a text off my daughter. It was a lovely positive and happy text. Then, in...

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martin_p wrote:I’ve thought it for a few weeks now, but today has convinced me, David Davies and Ringo are one and the same person.

You could be onto something there Martin! We've never been spotted in the same room at the same time......

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Tall Paul wrote:No

Fair play fella.

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The evidence would suggest otherwise. Just out of interest Paul. Would you choose to describe the victim of a vicious attack as "some skank"( regardless of whoever the perpetrators are). Instead of trying to mock me for making one extra post just to clarify what I think of the gobsh1te. Would you? ...

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She wasn't attacked! The police statement states she says was pushed to the floor. How on earth does someone get injuries more in keeping with being cut with glass, for example, when they were pushed to the floor? The area is covered by CCTV. There is no evidence of an attack, or any attackers. She...

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Your drinking is at new heights then! Last week you were going crazy about some skank in Batley who'd been 'attacked' by 'three asian schoolboys', however the area it allegedly took place was covered by CCTV and showed no evidence of the attack or attackers. No surprise that the main cheerleaders w...

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UpTheBeehole wrote:Any evidence of the racist asian ghosts in Batley yet?

Not got a clue what you're on about.

Nowt new there then!

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It's fine. It won't be possible to assess the impact of Brexit until it has actually happened anyway. Good fishing Paul! Youre wrong. It's absolutely possible to assess the impact of brexit on the economy. But it can only be just that. An assessment of what could happen, given certain variables. It...

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Nope, never implied that at all. Using your argument against you, you are effectively saying that its impossible to use any facts because they are not facts, they are only assumptions based on the available evidence. The reason it sounds so ace for Brexit is that immediately becomes impossible to d...

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Ringo is the evidence that not everyone that voted to leave is a racist, but every racist voted to leave. I suggest that not everyone that voted to leave is thick, but every thick person voted to leave. Oh, I forgot, I lost. I really should begin to get over it. I would love to see a study of how l...

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I'm not interested in the debate about trafficking, as its a minor part (albeit a serious one) of the much more important and essential free movement of people. Your point is essentially trying to tell us all that any studies, journals, opinion pieces etc etc etc can be ignored because they are not...

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I give up So your argument for Brexit is that its impossible to say, even if we do loads and loads of studies of it , that it will be a disaster, even though exactly the same reason could be used for it being a success. Basically, you base everything you do on a "hunch" **** me, we might as well sa...

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I've not seen them yet Ringo, and neither have you. Nor will we, and its really, really obvious why that is. But you're missing the point entirely Lancs. Whatever they contain about each section of the economy. Good, bad or ugly. They are not evidence. They are predictions. Assumptions. Assessments...

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Dozens of studies that asess the impact of Brexit on various parts of the economy, were published by the government last week. - For the UTC message board Remoaners that's evidence.

For Ringo McCartney it's - "what might happen if" report. But it certainly isn't evidence.

Evening gents.

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martin_p wrote:We’re all sorry about that!

Somebody proves you wrong and you get all bitter and twisted!

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I’m just apologising for taking the thread off topic, not for engaging with you. Fair enough. Back up your claim by producing evidence. It should be based on a densely populated island nation, that has a benefits system that acts as a magnet, that has a minimum wage, that has a health system free a...

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In my analogy, nobody has ever jumped off a cliff before but someone has dropped an egg on the floor. Remember when I said “(NB - this still holds true even if nobody had ever jumped off a cliff before in the whole of history)”? There’s evidence that it won’t, and there’s evidence that it will. It’...

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Gutted.

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I think you might be right. Sorry for derailing the thread, everyone. Your analogies about jumping off cliffs and cracking eggs would have been relevant to an event that has happened repeatedly. And is about to happen again. A country that, till now has had open borders, has now voted to have contr...

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martin_p wrote:Give it up mate, there really is little point.

Hey Marty's back!

Where is it!? The evidence!?

What do you mean you've only got a hunch!?

You get the keys to the Delorean, and all you come back with is exactly what I've got. An opinion! You Schmuck!

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Do you mean “proof”? If not, I give up. I tried my best, though. You were the one that provided the Oxford English dictionary definition of evidence! Did you read it yourself!? And again, when was the last time a nation, with all those specific attractions to people who'd love to be here, leave a s...

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Now this bit is relatively good. I don’t agree with you, but the last quoted paragraph is your evidence (or at least the assumed answers to your rhetorical questions would be). You might even find some different correlation between the countries with people trafficking problems other than free move...

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Still you, Ringo. The facts don’t have to be about the belief (in the way you’re using the word). Let me try once more with an analogy... People jumping off cliffs have nothing to do with me, but the evidence taken from them jumping tells me it probably wouldn’t be fun if I tried it. To make it eve...

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:lol: Everyone who voted for Brexit looks like a complete idiot now, not only have you utterly messed up the country you've atually made some crackpot DUP woman the Prime Minister and person in charge of Brexit. Literally the whole world is pointing and laughing at you but hey, you won. Get over it...

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Well if you continue to misunderstand the use of the word evidence (even though Greenmile has tried to help you above) there really is no point. I'm fully aware of the definition of "evidence" Martin Greenmile even provided us both with the Oxford English dictionary defintion. You perhaps need to u...

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https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/evidence “The available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.” Martin has a belief (about a possible future event) and says there is an available body of facts or information (accumulated via the observ...

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Thank Christ for someone to have an intelligent conversation with!! There’s only one of the arguments above that specifically talks about free movement as a factor, the rest are about cross border cooperation and regulations. I accept these are a factor but Ringo was fixated on free movement. It’s ...

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Surely if there is no correlation between the two, then your argument is flawed too? Not that I agree/disagree anymore or less with either of your opinions. There are arguments for and against you both. For example, Interpol believe "'the free movement of people and goods across the EU's internal b...

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Greenmile wrote:Do you accept that you can predict the future (to varying degrees of certainty) by observing the past?

Yes or no?

YES! YES ! YES!

But it's only that. A PREDICTION!

Till the event has taken place. There can be no EVIDENCE.

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I’ll explain it one last time! It’s not leaving the EU that’s the key bit here, it’s us being in a position of no free movement. There’s plenty of stats out there that show that whether a country has free movement or not doesn’t affect the volume of people trafficking. In fact the countries with th...

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When you take a step are you always wondering a little bit whether or not gravity will still be working or if you're just going to float into the air? It is possible to look at the current state of a system and calculate the future state. Although in the context of the EU immigrants question or wha...

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No, but I believe the sun will come up tomorrow, based on evidence. Hahaha! Exactly!!!! And whether you realise it, or not, you agree with what I was saying to Martin p. The subject was this- I BELIEVE leaving the EU and ending free movement of people WILL help to stop exploitation and people traff...

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