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AndyClaret wrote:How about getting a cheaper phone, cutting out netfilx, not buying £3 coffee's. I managed to, bought my first house at 24.

That's the problem. Spending £7/month on Netflix is why people can't save up £10k for a deposit.

You're so full of ******* ****, Andy.

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Lancasterclaret wrote:But you have to fund it.

You can't just promise the earth and have an uncosted manifesto.

The Tories can. No other party is allowed to cost their manifesto without the Tories calling it uncosted, but the Tories are allowed to not cost theirs.

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May hadn't been in power for 2 years before the election. By campaigning, I mean she wasn't all over the TV screens etc.. pushing why she would be great. the message was basically I don't need to do anything as Corbyn is so bad. the message was... what? THE MESSAGE WAS... WHAT? :lol: She didn't cam...

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I wouldn't subsidise privately managed railways either. If that's the case Jeremy can just withdraw the subsidies, he doesn't need to renationalise them after all. You really think it's a good idea to have zero public funding for railways? Really? These things travel at over 100mph on metal strips ...

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Boris is quite popular up north, which is very rare for a Tory PM. He will run rings around a very old looking Corbyn. Corbyn has far too many skeletons in his closet, videos of him with the IRA or pictures with other terrorists will constantly be shared around social media. Posts about his 2nd hom...

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AndyClaret wrote:They won't make the mistakes of the last disastrous manifesto.

Well, they've got a fracking lobbyist to write it for them, so they're not off to a great start.

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I couldn't give a toss who runs the railways or any other industry, so long as the tax payer doesn't pick up the bill. I don't care if it breaks even, fine. But if it starts to drain the countrys coffers it's the poor that will pay, I won't suffer. Investment in modern rolling stock, refurbing stat...

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Mala591 wrote:Like it or not this general election IS a second referendum.

Remain - vote Lib Dem
Leave with a deal - vote Conservative

Imo we are likely to have a second REAL general election within 12 months of this one.

It's literally not a referendum. By definition it's not. Like it or not.

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Much though you'd prefer it to be otherwise, dsrs' opinion is correct. If you're a high mileage user pure electric still isn't viable. Mild hybrid on the other hand! I'm sure finding a charging station isn't that difficult. https://i.gyazo.com/864bb71538548f466aab75c73ef05d14.png And this magazine ...

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It will if you drive a long way. It'll lead to a lot more nights away from home when your battery runs out, for example. ;) No good for long trips unless you have a garage every 200 miles. What's the objection to hybrids? I'm told they are good to drive with very good mpg. Let me guess. You formed ...

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Has he really faked a picture of himself giving a dog a medal? I’m assuming that really is fake news? Yeah. He's getting desperate for positive press given how his corruption and abuse of power is being exposed in the impeachment depositions. Did you hear about how he had dozens of his congressmen ...

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Durham clearly has evidence of criminal wrong-doing probably uncovered by the Inspector General's report. I suspect it will be revealed that a fraud was perpetrated on the FISA court in order to spy in Trump associates and ultimately Trump himself. There's also a good chance that General Flynn's ca...

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AndyClaret wrote:Yes really.

You assume too much.

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whine*

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AndyClaret wrote:You hope, could go the other way.

Not really.

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And btw Andy, for about 63 polls in a row, YouGov polls have shown that the British public no longer wants Brexit. So if you really respected their polls, and really respected the will of the people, you'd be shouting for a second referendum right now.

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Yougov were the closest to the actual result. Yes, and they're the polling company i respect the most. Do you want to know what their polls showed 42 days before the last election? Tories had a 16 point lead then. The polling will most likely narrow, especially when Boris opens his mouth and begins...

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AndyClaret wrote:15 point lead with yougov.

Are we back to liking polls again?

Wanna see one from this time in the last election campaign?

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Calm down imploding Bercow. It's a football message board. His post was perfectly valid whether you liked it or not Only if his intent was to provide weak rationale to those looking to dismiss a challenging opinion. It's pathetic. He's saying he's not going to engage with anyones opinion unless the...

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"poor people" some top class virtue signalling there, go and polish your halo. To people like Andy, every time other people care about something other than themselves it is "virtue-signalling". This is because Andy is a far-right **** who doesn't understand what it means to have compassion and empa...

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People or the vast majority of people arent aware of, or give a damn about financial transaction tax. They judge the state of the country, by their own experience. Can they pay the bills etc. At present they can do that, so much like Macawber they are happy bunnies. This drive for renationalisation...

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Maybe the OP, in future, can put "(still alive)" in thread titles involving beloved national treasures to avoid causing panic.
And perhaps also in titles involving Tory politicians to avoid... ooooh, i can't make that joke.

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Rochdale councillor cautioned for voting twice. https://news.sky.com/story/rochdale-councillor-accepts-police-caution-after-voting-twice-in-local-election-11473294" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Here it is, boys and girls. Andy Claret has found the voter fraud that proves we need to...

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American companies have been working in partnership with NHS trusts since at least 2006 though. If it's only a recent issue for you now then you'll need to explain why. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/feb/08/us-firms-look-to-capitalise-as-nhs-becomes-increasingly-privatised" onclick="windo...

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Hmmm...

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The IG report is only the fore runner to the Durham investigation which has now become a criminal investigation based on the initial findings of the IG. Just like you I can’t wait. One thing is certain. Either the Democrats or the Republicans are the biggest liars on earth. The Durham investigation...

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First "Russia, Russia, Russia", now it's Ukraine. It's going nowhere. The Dems are panicking because of the impending IG report and Durham's special counsel report. It's all a smokescreen to hide this. Keep the faith - Trump 2020! lol, another IG report, Uwe Noble? How many IG reports have you tout...

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Lt. Col. Vindman's testimony was explosive, according to the New York Times. He says there were omissions in the released transcript where there are ellipses, these include an assertion from Trump that there were recordings of Joe Biden discussing Ukraine corruption and an explicit mention by the Uk...

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No they go knocking on the door and asking, whilst out canvassing. If they say they're not voting what easier than to apply. Then there are those who might be elderly and appreciate the help of the kind chap happy to fill in the form for them, and post it as well. As I said, it's too easy to manipu...

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You're missing what I said. It isnt people who turn up at the booth whose vote is being stolen, but those people sat at home with either no intention of voting, or putting their trust in a third party with a political bias. When a postal vote arrives at the count, what is proof is there to show tha...

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Burnley Ace wrote:One is enough. If you can’t be arsed to get to the Town Hall to get your free voter ID then you are disenfranchising yourself.

lol. You think it's gonna be free. Bless.

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Didn't want me to Google it but wanted me to guess, get it wrong and then you could belittle me because you knew the answer which you'd googled.... Yeah alright, I'm well up for playing that game with you. I'll delete my post so we can go again.... No, i didn't want you to guess either. wtf you on ...

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People dont register for multiple postal votes, its unscrupulous supporters making use of postal votes of other people under various guises. Wether that's because they didn't want to use it, or didn't understand the system so had it filled in for them. The percentage of people entitled to a postal ...

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Not watched it yet. But oh yea someone made a video. Brexit party made a video about the creation of the EU army. Not holding that up as up as fact are we? You lot only back something that supports your argument. It’s like you don’t have a brain and can['t] think for yourselves. Is this why you peo...

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GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
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Oh, i'd forgot about that question, but that one matters too. I believe i wanted you to not google it, and tell me how many allegations of voter fraud was required to make it worthwhile to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of people?

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IanMcL wrote:And to you too IT.

This is why the terrorists hate us.

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Lowbankclaret wrote:Just like anyone can get loads of postal votes to use.

If driving licences and passports can be secure.

Why not votes

Because there aren't entire countries trying to hack the DVLA to make sure your drivers' licence is assigned to someone else.

Watch the ******* video i linked.

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Lowbankclaret wrote:So what’s the percentage of driving licences and passports that have been obtained falsely.

Do you want it to take weeks to count each vote, and cost £40-£80 each to cast it?

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I'm still yet to get an actual answer to my question, which i've repeated a few different times. None of you going to take a swing at it?

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Lowbankclaret wrote:You are so concerned about voter fraud, but not when concerned with postal votes or proxy votes.

Yes. We're more concerned about 1 million votes being changed by one person, and we're less concerned by 1 fraudulent vote by 100 different people per general election. Do i need to explain why?

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2nd leg v Tottenham in the league cup.

Winning 4-3 from 3-1 down against Preston is a close second.

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By law, a person becomes an adult at 18. The only reason the political parties are wanting the age to be changed to 16 is because they'll get more votes. If everyone agrees that a person is an adult at 16, then fine. But that might be a shock for those depending on child support and certain tax bre...

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Dy1geo wrote:So you feel the same about Jimmy Saville or Cyril Smith

You understand the purpose of a trial is to make public and weigh the evidence, right? Has the evidence against them NOT been made public and weighed?

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Well you still need parental permission to join the army under the age of 18 so a 16 year old isn't viewed as legally responsible enough to make that decision. The DAOR applies until you're 18 so you're not locked in until you're 18. If your only argument is that 16 year olds should be allowed to v...

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Ok. So tomorrow when I accuse you of a sinister, severe crime you are cool with the media reporting when your back door gets hammered and you spend some time in custody even though you aren’t guilty? And you are happy with whatever spin they put on it? Of course I wouldn't be cool with it, and i'd ...

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Really, you are just showing you support any way that supports vote rigging, no surprise there. Can I just point out. My last passport, all done online. My last driving license all done online. Secure enough for that but not to vote. Really. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI" onclick="win...

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In terms of the military you're not actually allowed a front line role until 18 so that doesn't apply in terms of giving your life (and you also need parental permission). As for starting a family, technically I'd say that's 16 and three quarters. On the other hand there are plenty of areas which s...

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So you think this lad, who is obviously innocent, should be allowed to be named when not guilty? Especially if a relatively serious offence. Particularly when it’s likely in this day and age he works with people of various backgrounds? He was accused. That's all. If we as individuals are stupid eno...

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Lowbankclaret wrote:So allowing people to vote via an app is disenfranchising people.

I suggest it’s enabling people.

Yeah, when that app gets inevitably hacked and the results untrustworthy, yes - that's disenfranchising people.

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Oh your quick to support any suggestion that gets votes for Labour or the remain. But any suggestion that aids more people voting but control vote rigging. Your up in arms. Now there’s a surprise. True colours nailed to the mast. No. I'm quick to support any suggestion that doesn't clearly attempt ...

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