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- Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Hourihane
- Replies: 26
- Views: 4459
Re: Hourihane
"Thing is how many players would the Burnley board be prepared to pay 30k per week ? 3,4 maybe 5 ? Maybe 15 ?" Perhaps five..........for the moment. As regards Aston Villa, they are a disaster waiting to happen. Bruce better make all his signings in the next week because if any club are heading for ...
- Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bradys missus on social media..
- Replies: 22
- Views: 6694
Re: Bradys missus on social media..
"Deffo Padiham."
Which is sensible as he can actually walk to training.
Which is sensible as he can actually walk to training.
- Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bradys missus on social media..
- Replies: 22
- Views: 6694
Re: Bradys missus on social media..
It's actually Waterside Mews, Padiham.
- Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: were you here?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2215
Re: were you here?
"Friday's quiz, name the players :lol:" Our keeper who appears a few times in the film is Edwin Towler and a couple of our defenders are Henry Ross (who was ever-present during the '02/'03 season) and Joseph Taylor who only missed one match. We lost the game 0-2 and the official attendance was 4,000...
- Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Yankee Interest In Rovers?
- Replies: 73
- Views: 10044
Re: Yankee Interest In Rovers?
The easy part for this zillionaire will be paying off the debt (If it's true he's worth £3.3 billion). The hard part is turning the whole business on it's head so that the Income figure becomes the Wages figure and vice versa. Even if he enlists Trump as his adviser converting £8million Income into ...
- Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The number 7 shirt for the clarets ??
- Replies: 38
- Views: 5260
Re: The number 7 shirt for the clarets ??
"I thought Cochrane was 11, probably wrong usually am."
TC did have a couple of 11's ( against Bolton and Stoke at the start of the '77/'78 season) but the others were 7, apart from the odd 12.
TC did have a couple of 11's ( against Bolton and Stoke at the start of the '77/'78 season) but the others were 7, apart from the odd 12.
- Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The number 7 shirt for the clarets ??
- Replies: 38
- Views: 5260
Re: The number 7 shirt for the clarets ??
Here's a few....... Jackie Chew Les Shannon Roy Stephenson Billy Gray Dougie Newlands Albert Cheesbrough (just a few times) John Connelly Trevor Meredith (winner at City on that famous Monday night) Ian Towers Willie Morgan Johnny Price (5ft 2ins) Ralph Coates Dave Thomas Eric Probert Billy Ingham G...
- Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Yankee Interest In Rovers?
- Replies: 73
- Views: 10044
Re: Yankee Interest In Rovers?
Sidney.....It's difficult to understand the logic of anyone even attempting to turn round the shambles that is Blackburn Rovers. Aside from the fact that they'll be required to cover the £120million owed to Venkys and other creditors, to actually transform the club into a going concern is no short-t...
- Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Old Photo - newspaper shop parker Lane
- Replies: 15
- Views: 3206
Re: Old Photo - newspaper shop parker Lane
1921 ?!?!........So where's the poster outside the shop that proclaims........
........."Clarets 30 match unbeaten record comes to an end" .......
With an article by Chris Boden predicting that the record will stand for 80 years !
........."Clarets 30 match unbeaten record comes to an end" .......
With an article by Chris Boden predicting that the record will stand for 80 years !
- Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Old Photo - newspaper shop parker Lane
- Replies: 15
- Views: 3206
Re: Old Photo - newspaper shop parker Lane
It is a superb picture. Are we dating it early 1930s?
If so, and the location is as suggested by MikeS, then pretty much directly opposite the newsagents would be the Pedestrian Inn with landlord at the time a certain Tommy Boyle, a name very familar to the OP.
If so, and the location is as suggested by MikeS, then pretty much directly opposite the newsagents would be the Pedestrian Inn with landlord at the time a certain Tommy Boyle, a name very familar to the OP.
- Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Swiss Ramble
- Replies: 57
- Views: 8557
Re: The Swiss Ramble
I doubt you'll find anyone who disagrees with that sentiment ClaretKent. However, their biggest challenge lies ahead, in the summer, if we retain our PL status. That's when the really big decisions need to be made (when Income increases from £39million to £120million) and whether they match the ambi...
- Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:47 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Swiss Ramble
- Replies: 57
- Views: 8557
Re: The Swiss Ramble
Not exactly unaided Culm, in fact 90% of our income this year will be from outside revenue streams. Back in the 60's the club were totally reliant on matchday receipts for income whereas this season they are a mere drop in the ocean. Such is the changing world of football but I take the point that B...
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Swiss Ramble
- Replies: 57
- Views: 8557
Re: The Swiss Ramble
Again, I agree entirely, with one small caveat and that's the lack of communication from the men at the top. We went from no AGM, to no informal shareholder's meeting to delays in releasing the accounts. On the basis that the accounts were completed, audited and signed off by the directors many week...
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Swiss Ramble
- Replies: 57
- Views: 8557
Re: The Swiss Ramble
Absolutely........and in all my years following Burnley I really believe that, if we survive the dreaded drop this season, we can lose the tag of 'selling club' even if it might only be temporary.
Even that will be a massive achievement.
Even that will be a massive achievement.
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: The Brady link
- Replies: 470
- Views: 83264
Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link
No worries random........I might be erring slightly on the high side but the £38million will certainly be no more than £1million overestimated. As I said a key figure is the 190 employees currently on the payroll.
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I've been on this board exactly one week. . .
- Replies: 47
- Views: 5319
Re: I've been on this board exactly one week. . .
Cheers rejected.........As Sidney1st points out the biggest flaw in your business plan is paying almost £80million in wages with an Income that is virtually the same. With other costs it's simply unsustainable and little wonder you needed a further loan of £70million last year. And some posters on h...
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: The Brady link
- Replies: 470
- Views: 83264
Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link
random.......the fag packet calculation is basically as follows :- ........ ........We know for a fact that the last accounts included a Wage bill of £29.4milion, which was to Jun'15 and was based on a wage cap that season of £22k per week. Last season would see that figure reduced as a result of re...
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: The Brady link
- Replies: 470
- Views: 83264
Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link
"Even if our wage bill went above 40m+ then, if we stay up, we could afford it." jurek.........Sadly there's a flaw in that argument. When the accounts are available for this current financial year the total Wage bill will be around £38million and that's with a wage ceiling in place of £28k per week...
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I've been on this board exactly one week. . .
- Replies: 47
- Views: 5319
Re: I've been on this board exactly one week. . .
I'd be interested to know from rejected as to how the Sunderland fans view their financial mess.
As an onlooker your club is in serious danger after relegation unless you cut costs dramatically.
What's the view on Wearside?
As an onlooker your club is in serious danger after relegation unless you cut costs dramatically.
What's the view on Wearside?
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: The Brady link
- Replies: 470
- Views: 83264
Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link
Vegas........There's no way the club would jump from a ceiling of £28k to £50k in one season. We will eventually pay wages of £50k per week IF we maintain our PL status but not immediately. I know that puts us at a disadvantage with every other club in the Prem but Burnley are a unique club and we d...
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Swiss Ramble
- Replies: 57
- Views: 8557
Re: The Swiss Ramble
Swiss Ramble has been a brilliant source of information for a number of years.
They do some great work.
They do some great work.
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: The Brady link
- Replies: 470
- Views: 83264
Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link
Going back to the accounts, I'd suggest that the £210million is slightly exaggerated but not by much. If they are relegated they will need to reduce their Wage bill massively but not necessarily straight away. They will have first year parachute payments of £48million to boost their Income and so wi...
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: The Brady link
- Replies: 470
- Views: 83264
Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link
"If any of us were Sland fans and someone said that we were selling Defoe and Brady was the replacement what would we think?" We'd probably think that although taking a player off the wage bill that earns £80k per week is sensible, it probably confirms the relegation that was likely anyway. Oh, but ...
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Sunderland FA Cup: sub 10k?
- Replies: 135
- Views: 14842
Re: Sunderland FA Cup: sub 10k?
If we beat Sunderland tomorrow the same prices will no doubt apply against Fleetwood or Bristol City no matter what the gate is tomorrow.
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: The Brady link
- Replies: 470
- Views: 83264
Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link
"Sunderland bid for him" If there's any truth in the Sunderland bid it's probably worth looking at the deal they may be offering Brady. in their last set of accounts, to Jun'15, their wage bill was a whopping £77milion compared to our £29.4million. Not difficult to assume therefore that their offer ...
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Stay up and win the cup
- Replies: 46
- Views: 4674
Re: Stay up and win the cup
"The stats would say exactly that!!! Obviously, the crazy backlog of fixtures didn't help either !" After we'd beaten Fulham in the semi-final replay and knew we were at Wembley there was a massive buzz about the whole place which if anything we took into the remaining league games. Injuries to key ...
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have we peaked?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 3721
Re: Have we peaked?
"Depends on our defence remaining resilient and free from injury,"
That was the main issue in '61/'62. After we'd beaten Fulham in the semi-final replay key injuries to the likes of Brian Miller and Gordon Harris disrupted a settled side at a vital time.
That was the main issue in '61/'62. After we'd beaten Fulham in the semi-final replay key injuries to the likes of Brian Miller and Gordon Harris disrupted a settled side at a vital time.
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have we peaked?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 3721
Re: Have we peaked?
Point taken Ashy, but a slightly different level of opposition this time I think you'll agree.
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Stay up and win the cup
- Replies: 46
- Views: 4674
Re: Stay up and win the cup
"Be careful what you wish for.
Look at what happened to us in 1961-62 !"
Surely you're not suggesting that our faltering form in the league was a result of reaching the Cup Final?
Look at what happened to us in 1961-62 !"
Surely you're not suggesting that our faltering form in the league was a result of reaching the Cup Final?
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have we peaked?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 3721
Re: Have we peaked?
It's a good question and who knows, but these are heady times for sure. Four home wins on the bounce and is it six out of the last seven at home, truly remarkable stuff which I'm not even sure we equalled last season in the Championship. I well remember walking away from the Turf after Scotty's late...
- Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have we been in the bottom three this season?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 3085
Re: Have we been in the bottom three this season?
Nice one Dark Cloud.....I always thought your username was based on an Indian chief or something, but young Caleb told me the other day that you are the eternal pessimist. I should have known that anyway!
- Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have we been in the bottom three this season?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 3085
Re: Have we been in the bottom three this season?
When we were Champions in '59/'60 the final day was the first time we'd been top all season!
Edit......beat me to it Dazzler.
Edit......beat me to it Dazzler.
- Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 1962 revisited
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1899
Re: 1962 revisited
Be interesting to know how many posters on here were at the '62 Final. Just found my ticket, H 55 standing section, tucked away in a drawer.
There was a recent thread on the 1947 Cup Final and one poster was actually there on the day.
There was a recent thread on the 1947 Cup Final and one poster was actually there on the day.
- Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: The Brady link
- Replies: 470
- Views: 83264
Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link
The signing-on fee is one way round the problem but, as I say, there are exceptions to the rule this year and at least three are earning more than the others with an unsigned contract on the table for a player at £35k per week. But a leap then to £50k per week for a new player may do more damage to ...
- Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: The Brady link
- Replies: 470
- Views: 83264
Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link
First of all it's not unlikely that Brady, based on a potential fee of £13million, will anticipate a wage of £50k per week. Like it or not there's a direct correlation between transfer fee and wage (particularly in the head of an agent) and this is where our problem lies. Since our first promotion t...
- Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Has Costa had his head turned by offer from China?
- Replies: 46
- Views: 5384
Re: Has Costa had his head turned by offer from China?
"The sky deal will be fine. There's not going to be a massive draw to start screen Chinese Premier League games." Bordeaux.......My point was more about the deal Sky/BT might have to consider in order to finance PL clubs in a way that allows them to pay the sort of salaries that compete with the Chi...
- Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Has Costa had his head turned by offer from China?
- Replies: 46
- Views: 5384
Re: Has Costa had his head turned by offer from China?
It's the impact these moves have on our domestic game that we should be concerned about. When it was Pelle, Tevez and Oscar it was all a bit meh, players that were looking for a last big pay day. But this is different, Costa the first potential marquee signing with Sanchez and Ozil now refusing to s...
- Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Has Costa had his head turned by offer from China?
- Replies: 46
- Views: 5384
Re: Has Costa had his head turned by offer from China?
The implications of this are almost unthinkable, it will blow the PL deal out of the water.
Costa will be the first of many if the reputed £600k per week is true.
Certain to be disruption at the Bridge and daft as it sounds Tottenham might be favourites for the title in a couple of weeks.
Costa will be the first of many if the reputed £600k per week is true.
Certain to be disruption at the Bridge and daft as it sounds Tottenham might be favourites for the title in a couple of weeks.
- Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley Most profitable!
- Replies: 72
- Views: 9098
Re: Burnley Most profitable!
"The thing which people often get confused with is profits (shown on the P&L and is just a snapshot at a given moment in time for a set period - 12 months), and the overall health of the business. Your best bet is looking at the balance sheet." You're right Claretforever, normally looking at the bal...
- Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley Most profitable!
- Replies: 72
- Views: 9098
Re: Burnley Most profitable!
Shabba.......the difficulty is that the last figures we have available are too far out of date to make a real judgement. The accounts to Jun'16 were completed last August, audited by December and signed off by the directors at that time so their strange reluctance to release the figures is hard to f...
- Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley Most profitable!
- Replies: 72
- Views: 9098
Re: Burnley Most profitable!
Was there really any bragging anyway?......I recall a statement from Mike Garlick that the £35million profit to Jun'15 was a record for Burnley but that was about it. Tall Paul makes the important point (one that KRBFC and others should note) that only the annual depreciation based on the length of ...
- Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley Most profitable!
- Replies: 72
- Views: 9098
Re: Burnley Most profitable!
"Even more important then that we invest now to achieve a second successive PL season."
Absolutely ksrclaret.
Retaining our PL status is crucial this season.
Absolutely ksrclaret.
Retaining our PL status is crucial this season.
- Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley Most profitable!
- Replies: 72
- Views: 9098
Re: Burnley Most profitable!
"And then to June '17 a 50/60 million profit?"
Correct Winston.
Correct Winston.
- Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley Most profitable!
- Replies: 72
- Views: 9098
Re: Burnley Most profitable!
Just to bring everyone back down to earth, these figures are 18 months out of date, so a bit of a pointless exercise really.
When we eventually release our accounts to Jun'16 a break-even situation or even a small loss is likely.
When we eventually release our accounts to Jun'16 a break-even situation or even a small loss is likely.
- Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley worth buying
- Replies: 63
- Views: 10424
Re: Burnley worth buying
That's the problem, the fact that the Board have a 94% shareholding plus the fact that they discontinued the AGM some four years ago, it's not possible now for the remainder to have a voice. Even the informal shareholder's meeting in 2013 only lasted for one year.
- Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley worth buying
- Replies: 63
- Views: 10424
Re: Burnley worth buying
"Thanks, Royboy. So what I'm talking about already exists, just in a less formal way. I still think that if all of you minority shareholders got together in a more organized way that you would have more influence in the club."
There's no answer to that, you'll be telling us next to force an AGM.
There's no answer to that, you'll be telling us next to force an AGM.
- Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lee Hoos
- Replies: 27
- Views: 5975
Re: Lee Hoos
The problem was that, because they were promoted, they were at that point outside the jurisdiction of the FL who were unable to recover the fine being outmuscled by the PL. In truth after relegation, and still no payment, their registration back into the FL should have been refused but was put on ho...
- Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lee Hoos
- Replies: 27
- Views: 5975
Re: Lee Hoos
"The owners 'wiped' most of it out, in an effort to beat FFP I think I read somewhere, but it didn't quite work. It got a bit messy then suddenly went all quiet." Sidney.......they wrote off £64million of the overall debt and incredibly thought they could get away with a double-entry to the P/L acco...
- Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley worth buying
- Replies: 63
- Views: 10424
Re: Burnley worth buying
"I'm talking about a total supporter investment of 30%. It's a kind of a blind trust. You put your money where your mouth is. And then you sit back and hope for the best." I know exactly what you're talking about. Let me clarify, the seven Board members own between them slightly over 94% shareholdin...
- Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley worth buying
- Replies: 63
- Views: 10424
Re: Burnley worth buying
"I think that the average supporter should be allowed to buy shares in the club, as long as it doesn't surpass a certain percentage. Put it in a Supporters Trust, and don't let the total exceed 30% of gross investment." Why would you think that's not possible?.........Just wander into the Bob Lord e...