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NottsClaret

Already a bit of unrest in Italy. You can't keep people locked up forever. Hopefully things improve by the end of next month and we can start to move towards normality as China are now.

I don't see the harm in planning for when that time comes, whether that's football or anything else.

NottsClaret

I believe some of the response to this is because we have a large part of the population who really thought eventual demise didn't apply to them. It's certainly forced some people to face up to their own mortality. Hide in your home forever if you like, you're still going to die. I'm 100% behind th...

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thatdberight wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:26 am
"If 70 percent of an entire population gets sick, that means that between 0.35-0.7 percent of everyone in a country could die,"

Also, 0.7% of the entire population dies every year.

NottsClaret

We'll still find negatives. We're pretty much spending all we can without losing money, and still competing well at the highest level.

There's a reason that won't be good enough though, and I'm sure we'll find it here.

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Corky wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:40 am
Sadly, there are still far too many men in our society who put little value on women.

True that. There'll be plenty loudly outraged on here about the 'gypsy', who'll be objectifying and ridiculing women on other threads before the day's out.

He is a knob though.

NottsClaret

May is a long time at the moment. China have reopened their factories, production actually crept back up in March. It’s not impossible to imagine something like this being possible here by May, particularly if those antibody tests are available by then. I hope those dodgy streaming guys are up and r...

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We've not ordered anything online for the last couple of weeks. It's easy for us to get to the shops and there's loads in again, all the shelves are rammed. So if people can do that they should, leave the online deliveries to people who need it. It's not like we've anything else to do at the minute ...

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I read something today about how in Germany they're planning on the mass antibody testing, with a suggestion you'll get a certificate to show when you've had it, beaten it and are now immune and not infectious. Then you can go back to work, and get out and about as usual. Just wondering, if they had...

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Have you a link for that mdd2, I cannot find it. Cheers Not sure about the specific interview, but there's quite a bit out there on the testing in Iceland. They've simply tested anyone, not just those with serious symptoms. Having a smaller population on a remote island allows it I guess. It says a...

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Top boffin saying infection rate is slowing now in UK.

Globally, fatality rate of those who get it thought to be under 1%, could be well under that once asymptomatic patients are tested.

Definitely light at the end of the tunnel, if still a way off.

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Good call Inchy. Thanks for your posts and work. Actually more informative just reading through your posts rather than the thread, gives a more human aspect to it away from all the stats and squabbles. Just for a glimmer of light, Wuhan reopened its subway today and hopefully its shopping malls next...

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There’s only so much of “doing nothing” you can do though With people being able to go out, socialise or exercise, doing a spot of DIY could make all the difference in their mental health. Fortunately just had time to order a skip last week, stock up on paint etc and get a load of stuff for the gar...

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paulatky wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:31 am
The main issue to me is where the medical resources are going to come from if football is played with an audience.

How many are there now? Does every match have ambulances on standby? I've never seen them.

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There is no chance any football could start in September. Even if it did as soon as another player tests positive they'd have to completely shut down the league again due to the fear it might spread. If they cancel this season I suspect we won't be having any football next season either. Not sure a...

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There's no right answer, but looks to me like they're wanting to void all the leagues, just testing out reaction on the non-leagues. Aim to start again in September. There's a temptation to cancel everything this year but life will go on and although things look bleak now it won't last forever. A we...

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Worth saying that by working you aren't particularly taking more of a risk than anyone else. We're all going to get it at some point, believing you're going to avoid it altogether by staying off for 3 weeks is a fantasy. You're helping to 'flatten the curve' in this initial wave and that's to be rec...

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Yeah, it was more about the focus on the death rate and how we react but we still only test those that end up in hospital - or the rich and famous. So they’ve had it a while and then deteriorated by that stage too. Without widespread testing every response is going to be so clunky, we’ll hopefully g...

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Really noticeable how governments - and us - react to death rate figures from each day with more demands and action, even though they're showing you the results of what we were doing three or four weeks ago. Hard not to panic as the figures shoot up, but it'll be a while before we see any benefit, a...

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Spare a thought for the nation’s drug dealers. Going to be feeling it more than anyone. Hopefully Rishi Sunak announces something for them today.

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As for the spread of this virus. The UK is not taking it seriously enough. It should be stay at home unless your job is critical to beating this virus. The idea that everyone who can’t work at home should go to work is ludicrous. You may be able to stay 2 meters apart at work but it is getting to w...

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Coronavirus test: UK to make 15-minute at-home kits available within days. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-test-uk-kit-home-nhs-cases-symptoms-public-health-england-a9424741.html Really good news, at least for moving back towards normality - compared to where we are now....

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Yes. This is why medical staff are, sadly, at greater risk. I think this has been known since early on in this piece when Chinese medics were worse affected than would be explained just by transmission. I certainly heard it mentioned "way back" then. :( It's an interesting aspect to it, one I don't...

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Let’s see your calculations for that number??? Because the only time we've genuinely known exactly how many people in a population were infected was on that cruise ship. Of those infected, and it was a sample of several hundred, 1% went on to sadly die. Every other stat is taken from people tested ...

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Will be interesting to see this. Strangely I have said this before on here. In an attempt to save the world are we destroying it for decades to come. For a better future for my sons and grandchildren myself and my wife would have sacrificed ourselves for a better future for everyone. Being a bit dr...

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For those wondering how the disease would play out if the economy was prioritised over containment of the virus, Trump looks like he's going to provide a test case to contrast with Asia and Europe. Back to work next week, according to him. Had enough of the damage to his beloved stock market. It'll ...

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The death rate is around 1%.

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The same applies now, there is no point in expressing your view as to how absolutely terrible this all is. It benefits no one and it clearly adds to the problem, particularly when the future is a a massive unknown. Quite right Erasmus, be informed by all means but doom mongering doesn't help. They ...

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Italy's 'head of civil protection' reckons around 600,000 people have been infected there. It would explain the death stats.

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That's true but you've gotta start somewhere,and hopefully now their figures have peaked,their health service will be more able to cope,it's baby steps,but at least it's progress albeit slow.As yet there's no magic bullet,so all they can do is manage the virus as much as possible,and hope for bette...

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Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:28 pm
Numbers down in Italy for the second day running.

Just seen that, very encouraging. Obviously need to be cautious, but a little light at the end of the tunnel for them, and hopefully Europe eventually.

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ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:13 am
Government enforced restrictions. Only allowed out for a reason.

Fair enough. Not that different for everyone who's being responsible already I imagine.

Although they need to crack on with that now, no chance of it working once the weather gets nice.

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ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:18 am
Hope you are all ready for lock down.

What's the difference between 'lockdown' and now?

NottsClaret

Mad how much we’re stressing about families walking in the countryside and then tomorrow thousands of kids will be in school (essential workers is a hell of a list) and millions of workers will be mixing at sites, depots and factories across the country. In other news, Italy had its smallest percent...

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quoonbeatz wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:20 am
A massively irresponsible headline and article.

Have to say, it struck me as unusual to have such prominence on the BBC. I guess this time next year we’ll see for certain.

NottsClaret

Interesting figures and something else to think about:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51979654

NottsClaret

This is phase 2. The run on shops and supermarkets was about 3 weeks ago when the virus first hit True that. Reading all the articles on Italy, we're exactly the same. The idea people are so different around the world is nonsense. Their disbelief, panic, grief and acceptance is just two weeks ahead...

NottsClaret

Probably a situation where more information would be handy.

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Other half just come back from Tesco Padiham. No meat, no chicken, no fish, a few eggs. No pasta. Little beer left.. Worlds gone mad! Sooner or later every idiot's cupboards and freezers will be full. Which will then present another problem for supermarkets.. nobody will need anything for weeks.

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Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:11 pm
There's plenty of everything in corner shops, mini markets, garages etc..

True. Just shop local, at the market or go to the chippy. There's loads of everything.

These supermarket trolley morons are nuts.

NottsClaret

I also said there would be shortages and that has happened and can only get worse. Stop being such a baby. Just strolled into my town, market open and loads of stuff, more than usual. Everyone being sensible, standing apart etc, most with those gloves on. But yeah, the birds were still singing, peo...

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This report confirms the numbers I and Lowbank first posted 3 weeks ago and got ridiculed for. The numbers are big, in a nation of 65 million they’re always going to be big. Births, deaths.. accidents falling off ladders. Last winter around 50,000 more folk than usual died for various reasons. 500,...

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Mala591 wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:18 pm
Why is the underground transport system still open in London?

So people can get to work?

NottsClaret

Bit more reassurance today.

NottsClaret

You'd expect a slowdown in the coming days if we are no longer going into pubs, bars, sporting events etc. Yup, the top boffin has said we'll see a reduction in infection in the next 2-3 weeks. It'll keep swinging up and down then for the next year, but at least it will give everyone a bit of confi...

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Covid-19 is something new for the world to get scared about. Probably an element of truth in that. Obviously the number crunchers see the danger in the stats but for everyone else there is that bit of the fear of the unknown. In a couple of weeks, everyone will know someone who's had it and survive...

NottsClaret

This whole thing has really hammered home just how poor humans are at making judgements around risk and understanding relatively simple maths.

NottsClaret

Makes sense, should be doing more of this. Gives us something to look forward to and shows us that one day it will pass.

'By next June you'll either be dead or immune'.. decent slogan right there.

NottsClaret

I vote for saving as many human lives as possible. I know, I know, it's a bit "lefty" of me but damn it I'm just so god damn compassionate to my fellow humans. Hope this doesn't offend anyone. I imagine that's not too controversial a view point. But if austerity did indeed kill thousands, the effec...

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Did anyone see the full Imperial College report on which yesterday's update was based. Lots of stats, graphs and knowledge and very little politics so it won't be for everyone. Admitted the demand on ICU was higher than anticipated (imagine admitting an error!) so hence the tweak on policy. Anyway, ...

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I have said 4 weeks ago that the government would have to decide between personal health and economic health and I thought they would come down on the side of economic health. Again, nothing is black and white. Everyone agrees health is more important, but in 12 months, one way or another, this wil...

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