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by Devils_Advocate
Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Online banking using a smartphone…
Replies: 90
Views: 4515

Re: Online banking using a smartphone…

Mala591 wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:45 pm
What is the current interest rate for a ‘standard/normal/everyday’ Chase savings account?

Thanks
Bank British
by Devils_Advocate
Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Online banking using a smartphone…
Replies: 90
Views: 4515

Re: Online banking using a smartphone…

Yes, I do have an online current account (via a smartphone app) and it’s VERY convenient to use but there are so many horror stories about accounts being hacked that I’m seriously considering going back to a non-online account however inconvenient it might be. What would YOU do? You've nothing to w...
by Devils_Advocate
Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dinner Party's Help Needed
Replies: 36
Views: 1766

Re: Dinner Party's Help Needed

levraiclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:50 pm
Avoid Religion, Politics and Womens rights and stick to sport , music, films annd holday destinations.
What about if its full of those leftie types who wear their "progressive" views like a fashion accessory?
by Devils_Advocate
Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dinner Party's Help Needed
Replies: 36
Views: 1766

Dinner Party's Help Needed

I'm getting dragged along to a dinner party this weekend and wanted to get some good old UTC's advice on what kind of topics get discussed so I can brush up on them? A lad at work went to one for NYE and made the mistake of bringing up women's rights and was treated like a social leper (schoolboy er...
by Devils_Advocate
Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan Pace - Self made man
Replies: 82
Views: 5858

Re: Alan Pace - Self made man

I gotta agree with New Claret here. I would love to see the club work with the council to get a massive mural of Mr Pace adorning the side walls of the Culvert as you walk under towards the ground from town. Maybe have Mr Pace on one wall and then either JJ Watts or Kompany on the other side with "M...
by Devils_Advocate
Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football games growing up
Replies: 31
Views: 2002

Re: Football games growing up

Anyone remember playing K9 Keeper where you tied one of your mates dogs lead to one of the house gates and then took pens with the gate being the goals and the dog being the keeper? One of the lads on our street had a dog who was unbelievable and would hardly ever let one in
by Devils_Advocate
Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Where was Berge
Replies: 53
Views: 4062

Re: Where was Berge

Kompany (in a post match press conference) has said himself that Berge was ill so Im not sure whats left to clear up
by Devils_Advocate
Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VAR has ripped the heart and passion out of football.
Replies: 29
Views: 1647

Re: VAR has ripped the heart and passion out of football.

dsr wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:38 pm
It's had 5 years. How much patience do we have to give?
I see VAR as a bit like Brexit in that it divides people, is very contentious and that to paraphrase a certain Mr Rees-Mogg the overwhelming opportunity from this decision will be seen over the next 50 years.
by Devils_Advocate
Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VAR has ripped the heart and passion out of football.
Replies: 29
Views: 1647

Re: VAR has ripped the heart and passion out of football.

VAR is very frustrating and although it gets most of the decisions right it still makes some big mistakes. That said I think we just need to be patient with it and give it time to bed in as I think given time it will come good and in the future people will look back in horror about how we used to ma...
by Devils_Advocate
Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Tresor
Replies: 184
Views: 10164

Re: Mike Tresor

Think he'll be a very good player for us but he definitely doesn't look like the player to bring on when you go 5-4-1 to defend with your lives.
by Devils_Advocate
Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Luton
Replies: 469
Views: 16382

Re: Burnley v Luton

I have no idea how that didnt get referred back to the ref and then called a foul. At first I thought Trafford might have run into him but its obvious the Luton player deliberately blocked Trafford and if the ref hasn't spotted it then its a clear and obvious mistake. I was actual quite calm looking...
by Devils_Advocate
Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Luton
Replies: 469
Views: 16382

Re: Burnley v Luton

Really enjoyable half to watch was that and despite being second best for a lot of it we had two decent spells in the game where created a couple of great chances one resulting in our goal.
by Devils_Advocate
Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - CHELSEA v BURNLEY
Replies: 2272
Views: 144564

Re: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - BURNLEY v LUTON

Burnley 1 Luton 1 - Foster 20 mins
by Devils_Advocate
Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Supervised teeth cleaning.
Replies: 69
Views: 3114

Re: Supervised teeth cleaning.

This already govt policy as part of their guidance on child oral heath. This is also standard practice in some Scandinavian countries and seen as very normal and seen a positive action in supporting the well being of children. Its gonna be a long 6-9 months between now and the election if people are...
by Devils_Advocate
Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Midas Touch
Replies: 15
Views: 1648

The Midas Touch

Managed to get my hands on a genuine Olympic gold medal today and although that kind of thing doesn't really bother me it did feel a little special to have it in my hands. Got me wondering what famous sporting trophy's and medals have other posters might have gotten hold of?
by Devils_Advocate
Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Joey’s in bother again
Replies: 394
Views: 27414

Re: Joey’s in bother again

I mean if we're going to just pick random clips can I introduce you to some of Michael Owen's fine thoughts on football. or Kevin Keegan.... - "Argentina won’t be at Euro 2000 because they’re from South America.” -“Not many teams will come to Arsenal and get anything, home or away.” – “I came to Na...
by Devils_Advocate
Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cotterill
Replies: 107
Views: 10716

Re: Cotterill

i personally dont think we would be where we are now if it wasnt for Steve. thought he did a great job of stabilizing us at a difficult time You can say that about of our managers for the last 30 years. I think there is a fair case for saying Mullen, Ternent, Cotterill, Coyle, Howe and Dyche have a...
by Devils_Advocate
Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cotterill
Replies: 107
Views: 10716

Re: Cotterill

First season great, second season acceptable (despite the football and the league position) but after that it was pretty dire. Post ITV Digital collapse he was the right person at the right time to steer us through some troubled waters but thank god we got rid when we did and replaced him with someo...
by Devils_Advocate
Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Zaroury
Replies: 30
Views: 4127

Re: Zaroury

Very good in bits today and has a big future ahead at Burnley. This season is a little to soon but I think there is a reason we might see someone like Benson move on whilst in the nest 2 or 3 years we see Zaroury grow into a top Burnley player. Have some patience and let VK grow him and use him at t...
by Devils_Advocate
Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arijanet Muric
Replies: 284
Views: 35195

Re: Arijanet Muric

I completely agree! We're of course playing at a higher level - my entire point is that if this is our play style there's gonna be hairy moments but just ride with it? It's at least entertaining... IMO we'd have more points on the board playing more like this than the way we did early season anyway...
by Devils_Advocate
Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arijanet Muric
Replies: 284
Views: 35195

Re: Arijanet Muric

It’s not DA - I really thought his inclusion was apparent and why we managed to be much better at playing through a press - it seemed to be that the defence was much further spread out in possession and just looking at Sofascore it backs it up. I think it’s all points why we looked a bit more like ...
by Devils_Advocate
Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arijanet Muric
Replies: 284
Views: 35195

Re: Arijanet Muric

Put it this way if Trafford throws that ball out to Amdouni and is grounded by the return strike he would be absolutly crucified on here by some of the posters sticking up for Muric. (again this is from one of Murics biggest fans)
by Devils_Advocate
Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arijanet Muric
Replies: 284
Views: 35195

Re: Arijanet Muric

Is this thread a joke. I absolutely adored Muric last season and used to argue regularly why at the England level having a keeper who could use his feet was more important than what Pope offered (Pope was everything we needed in the Dyche years and I honestly wouldn't have swapped him for another ke...
by Devils_Advocate
Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Font
Replies: 178
Views: 11115

Re: Burnley Font

Im not fussed either way bout the Burnley font but I have to agree with CT that if we are going to change our badge like we did in 2010 we need to do it the proper way and officially change it and register that change.
by Devils_Advocate
Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Webb telescope
Replies: 33
Views: 2888

Re: James Webb telescope

We are very lucky that by chance our species have developed at a certain time in space that we can actually see traces of the outer galaxy's and the remnants of whatever the big bang was. Because the universe is expanding given enough time we will not be able to see or detect any light outside the M...
by Devils_Advocate
Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Town centre Bar break ins
Replies: 85
Views: 8370

Re: Burnley Town centre Bar break ins

Boss Hogg wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:53 pm
Chart Source ?
What do the numbers represent ?
Type of crime ? Stealing loaves of bread or stabbings ?
Govt national statistics data and the data is on violent crime
by Devils_Advocate
Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Town centre Bar break ins
Replies: 85
Views: 8370

Re: Burnley Town centre Bar break ins

Per capita crime rate is consistently higher in London than the UK Yes but the rate of increase in London over the last decade has been lower than the rate of increase than the rest of the country. People talk about crime being out of control in London because of Sadiq Khan but actually crime is ou...
by Devils_Advocate
Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Town centre Bar break ins
Replies: 85
Views: 8370

Re: Burnley Town centre Bar break ins

Think the Tories should be asking the mayor of London for some advice seen as his London is out performing the Tory run country

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by Devils_Advocate
Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The weather
Replies: 28
Views: 3784

Re: The weather

Why can't they call one storm fuckedthedayup ? I'm sick and tired of all these namby pamby names. Im the same, I think this storm Henk business has probably ruined 2024 for me already im so annoyed. I mentioned it at work and was laughed at for getting so bothered about something as inconsequential...
by Devils_Advocate
Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fosters Improvement
Replies: 119
Views: 8346

Re: Fosters Improvement

Having watched the full game v Villa on SKY, I think I have seen Foster play his best game for our Club. I cannot believe the improvement since the end of last season. A genuine power house, very strong, challenges for everything,great energy and a very good finisher. All his goals this season seem...
by Devils_Advocate
Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:37 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38097

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

Sorry to hear about that. But it’s fair to assume Duran doesn’t have the same condition. And I can say with relative certainty that a contact so slight has never made me lose balance to the extent that I’ve fallen over. Im not using that to compare to yesterdays scenario :lol: I was more pointing o...
by Devils_Advocate
Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38097

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

The Villa player actually plants his foot before registering that he’s been touched and has an opportunity to dive. It’s a clear dive. Your nerves feel and react to contact immediately often before you brain even realises and you wouldnt believe how hard wired this is. I have a neuropathy illness w...
by Devils_Advocate
Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38097

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

I do accept a case can be made for the penalty decision. What I don't accept in this instance is that the contact was enough to floor him - it was a blatant dive in my eyes. I like to think I often look at things objectively without bias, and do support decisions that are not in Burnley's favour. I...
by Devils_Advocate
Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38097

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

All this may be true generally, however yesterday the player went down far too easily from the softest of contact and proceeded to roll around like he'd been shot. Such contact shouldn't and doesn't automatically mean it's a penalty. The ref was conned, and VAR should've intervened. I agree with ev...
by Devils_Advocate
Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38097

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

So if two players' boots touch in the air, it's clearly a foul - OK, I accept that is your view. Who is it a foul for? Clearly Duran's boot touched Ramsey's. Why didn't we get a free kick? Put it another way, if two men shake hands, how do you decide who is shaking the hand and who is having his ha...
by Devils_Advocate
Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38097

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

So is it your contention that the contact between Ramsey and Duran was so hard that Duran couldn't help fall over, but the contact between Duran and Ramsey was very much less hard? The laws of physics suggest otherwise. Unlike you, I watch a lot of rugby. It's rare to see anyone tackled by a breath...
by Devils_Advocate
Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Berge suspension
Replies: 12
Views: 2920

Re: Berge suspension

I’m not sure DA, I hope you’re right! The talk was of suspension pre game and then when he got booked but whether that had been vetted I dunno. Yep Ive seen it mentioned a lot so assumed Id missed a discussion and todays game def counted but hopefully thats not the case but someone will know for ce...
by Devils_Advocate
Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Berge suspension
Replies: 12
Views: 2920

Re: Berge suspension

This must have already been covered but I'll add it to this thread as I thought 19 games was the cut off for 5 yellow cards so a 5th yellow for Berge today wouldnt make a difference. Is there a reason or a rule change that this isnt the case or has the 20th game always counted?
by Devils_Advocate
Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38097

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

But you’ve accepted the fact that Duran simulated an injury, so does it not also stand to reason that he simulated the affect that Ramsey’s kick had on his balance? There’s no way that the contact we saw would cause a player to fall over. And I hate the following phrase, but if you have ever played...
by Devils_Advocate
Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38097

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

…whilst rolling around holding your leg. Im in no way defending the way players roll around and try to extenuate things or that they make no effort to even trt and ride the contact and stay on their feet. The Villa player acting like an arse afterwards however doesn't change whether it was a penalt...
by Devils_Advocate
Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38097

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

taio wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:59 pm
I was responding to someone who suggested handball is out of scope for denying a goal scoring opportunity
Yep my bad, added an edit and apologised as thought it was a response to me
by Devils_Advocate
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38097

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

Why on earth would you think that handball would be out of scope for denying a goal scoring opportunity? I didnt think it was even close to being a goalscoring opportunity thats why. I was honestly shocked to see people suggesting it when I logged on after the game. I've just watched it several tim...
by Devils_Advocate
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38097

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

Really?! I’d love to see you run for a bus and a gust of wind knock you over…….ffs. Kicks his boot………? ! Touches it more like and certainly not enough for what followed…..despite “thems the rules”.. When you run between each foot hitting the ground you have both feet off the ground. If unexpectedly...
by Devils_Advocate
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38097

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

Your original post said VAR and referee decisions and wasn't just focussing on VAR Yes it did and thats why Ive clarified to you what I meant by that (I accept it wasnt clear in my OP) I was talking about the key decisons made by the ref and VAR because as we know what the ref gives on pitch can im...
by Devils_Advocate
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38097

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

You focus on people being biased in favour of the club. But you're biased against it. The handball was a major error yet you didn't even mention it. Im not biased at all, I try and look at everything objectively regardless of what I want to happen. I've explained why i didnt mention the handball in...
by Devils_Advocate
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38097

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

sjb wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:24 pm
Ironic as nobody cares what you say.
Yet here you are replying
by Devils_Advocate
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38097

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

He’s deliberately hand balled it to deny Foster a chance at goal. It’s the last man. The way the ball was bouncing Foster may well have beat him to it and got a clear effort on goal. Your last bit is the key bit. It didnt stop Foster from being clear on goal. If I watch it back and but for the hand...
by Devils_Advocate
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38097

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:19 pm
A deliberate handball aiming to deny a clear goal scoring opportunity is surely a red card offence?
It didnt clearly deny a goalscoring opportunity at all so never a red.