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by elwaclaret
Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson
Replies: 53
Views: 4672

Re: Benson

Do you really need an answer for that? Benson got a pay rise we tied down a key player from last season helps us get a higher fee. The same reason Cullen signed an extension, the part you’re missing though is Benson has never played PL football before, nobody knew if he’d make the grade, there was ...
by elwaclaret
Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chris Wilder
Replies: 50
Views: 4312

Re: Chris Wilder

If Wilder had any respect should he not have said something along the lines of "I am about to be a bit of a knob (again) but you are eating I will come back when you have finished" ? I agree you would hope Wilder would publicly apologise for his over reaction, when he calmed down… as he made public...
by elwaclaret
Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chris Wilder
Replies: 50
Views: 4312

Re: Chris Wilder

You're having a bit of a nightmare trying to defend him. Looking very stupid yourself, at least he can put being a nob down to the pressures of getting beat every week. If he apologised for the sandwich comment, people might listen to his rants about decisions. Your opinion which I hold in as littl...
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wembley of the North
Replies: 21
Views: 2076

Re: Wembley of the North

The taxpayer already holds a stake in Bolton I think, unless they’ve payed it back… give the Old Trafford stadium money to them to expand it to become a second national stadium and save having to waste further money in futile pursuit of trying to get the money out of Bolton while creating a new Wemb...
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Rovers protest
Replies: 140
Views: 8030

Re: Rovers protest

Dreadful ... disgusting the way they are pumping all that money in year in year out 😉 If they want local celebrity ownership… they’re mixing up Lee Mac and Big Mac I suspect. Their wrath should be aimed at the Walker children… they had no interest in Uncle Jack’s legacy and palmed it off at the fir...
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chris Wilder
Replies: 50
Views: 4312

Re: Chris Wilder

If I was the employee on my lunch break eating a sandwich in a communal office I work in and you "blasted" me for it, I would tell you where to stick your job and shall fall asleep tonight thankful you are not my manager. You would have been fired before it ever came to that. There was no food allo...
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Rovers protest
Replies: 140
Views: 8030

Re: Rovers protest

Bosscat wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:51 pm
Make a good halftime game 🤔 would be more fun than "drop it like its hot" 🤣🤣🤣
See post to DC above :D
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Rovers protest
Replies: 140
Views: 8030

Re: Rovers protest

dougcollins wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:44 pm
Sounds like something we'd come up with for half time 'entertainment'.
You may say that, I could not possibly comment. My idea of Half time entertainment is getting a pie and reading my programme. :D
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Rovers protest
Replies: 140
Views: 8030

Re: Rovers protest

Bosscat wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:39 pm
They need a images.jpeg
The Venkey’s should train some up with baskets on their backs…. To catch the protest ball’s - Venkey’s the Chicken in a basket (case) club…. Eggciting times.
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chris Wilder
Replies: 50
Views: 4312

Re: Chris Wilder

I don’t think it is pedantic or irrelevant. The referee’s assistant doesn’t work for Chris Wilder. They are equals. If he’s eating a sandwich when Wilder walks into a room he shouldn’t be expected to put it to the side until Wilder says he can continue to eat it. Massive sense of entitlement from W...
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Rovers protest
Replies: 140
Views: 8030

Re: Rovers protest

They bought a five pack to hand around. They need some ‘rover’ dogs to retrieve them… that would make the news however shite ‘mass protest’ of a few who can be arsed throwing them looked.
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chris Wilder
Replies: 50
Views: 4312

Re: Chris Wilder

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:25 pm
Chris Wilder is not the assistant referee’s customer.
Pedantic and irrelevant but you are quite right.
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson
Replies: 53
Views: 4672

Re: Benson

OR: extended in preparation for the Championship next year. Bruun Larsenn and Tresor can go but Benny, Anass, Luca and Wilf would be a nightmare for Championship FBs. Maybe… seems very extravagant to be paying a seasons wages when there will be other and fresher options in the market that are poten...
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chris Wilder
Replies: 50
Views: 4312

Re: Chris Wilder

Can't say I like Wilder and his narrow-eyed Tyke hard-man act very much. He made an absolute fool of himself with the sandwich incident and the Guardian football cartoonist David Squires made hay !.... https://www.theguardian.com/football/picture/2024/feb/06/david-squires-on-chris-wilder-the-other-...
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson
Replies: 53
Views: 4672

Re: Benson

Nori1958 wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:45 pm
Extended as per contract on promotion
If that was the case it makes more sense… not sure why clauses and option of an extension in the players favour at contract’s end would not have been employed… but hey ho, I’m not a lawyer.
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chris Wilder
Replies: 50
Views: 4312

Re: Chris Wilder

If a manager burst into my office, being pretty obnoxious and ranting, I'm going to carry on eating my sandwich, and I wouldn't stop my assistant doing either. Bearing in mind they've probably had no real proper sustenance for hours, including a good while before the game. We don't know the exact d...
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chris Wilder
Replies: 50
Views: 4312

Re: Chris Wilder

The conversation was in the referee's office wasn't it? Going into the ref's office, most likely totally unannounced, at the end of a physically exerting game for both players and officials, is nothing like a planned business meeting with a supplier. If the manager of another company comes into a c...
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson
Replies: 53
Views: 4672

Re: Benson

What I do not understand is if Benson is not the level required why the hell did we extend his contract in the summer… makes no sense.
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:45 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
Replies: 36
Views: 3489

Re: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview

That’s just deflecting blame elsewhere though, shame VK isn’t given the same pass. VK signed the good ones, Pace signed the bad ones. Not sure you can make that comparison. The whole ethos of Dyche’s final flurry of signings were very different from his previous model. Not calling Kompany but the i...
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Rosenior comment last night on Hull performance
Replies: 33
Views: 3127

Re: Rosenior comment last night on Hull performance

Hull won last night at Southampton and Liaim Rosenior said of the performance - "People might say it's a great performance tactically but it's not tactics, it's an appetite to run and fight, and a bravery to play." I couldn't help think we could do with a bit of that. Proving to be a decent manager...
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
Replies: 36
Views: 3489

Re: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview

The love and unity had probably gone because he spent £40m in his final season and we won 1 game from August until February. This season has been dreadful but imagine if we only had 1 win on the board at this stage. I have no idea if SD spent the money, but even at the time they seemed very unlike ...
by elwaclaret
Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:28 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chris Wilder
Replies: 50
Views: 4312

Re: Chris Wilder

Re the sandwich comment… I totally agree with Wilder. How long does it take to meet the manager… would you take a sandwich to a business meeting with a client or supplier and start eating while discussing projects (outside of a business lunch). It is completely unprofessional and disrespectful, he c...
by elwaclaret
Tue Feb 20, 2024 1:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
Replies: 36
Views: 3489

Re: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview

Just to counteract, I was ready to for him to go. He did amazing things for the club, should probably have a statue at the ground, but I think I’d had enough towards the end of his tenure, both on and off the pitch. I think the players had too. Quite agree. Whoever was to blame the breakdown of his...
by elwaclaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9995
Views: 1022258

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Interesting article in The New York Times - Is Sheffield the true home/birthplace of codified football and the game we know and love. Incidentally the Prof Wilson mentioned is Rob Wilson, who used to feature on this thread regularly before Elon made his move and destroyed our access to twitter with...
by elwaclaret
Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley ‘as live’ starting now on Sky
Replies: 0
Views: 523

Burnley ‘as live’ starting now on Sky

For the masochists on here… game of the day
by elwaclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Are Arsenal playing more British game than us?
Replies: 7
Views: 789

Are Arsenal playing more British game than us?

Looking ahead to the Arsenal game and one thing I have to take my hat off to Mikel Arteta for is spotting the weakness in the new fashion for ‘ball playing goalkeepers’ that try to pat away shots and crosses because they lack physicality. It seems he has been quicker than most to recognise there are...
by elwaclaret
Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bundesliga highlights
Replies: 19
Views: 1494

Re: Bundesliga highlights

I knew they’d gone down but didn’t realise they were in the bottom half of the table until I looked the other day Was reading they are deep deep trouble. If they do not avoid another relegation (on the cards) they are unlikely to qualify for a place in the league below as they carry too much debt… ...
by elwaclaret
Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Much improved at Anfield but another defeat
Replies: 10
Views: 1435

Re: REPORT: Much improved at Anfield but another defeat

For me it is a contribution of a young goalkeeper who cannot dominate his immediate area and zonal marking which requires a goalkeeper who can dominate his box…
by elwaclaret
Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Josh Brownhill
Replies: 76
Views: 4954

Re: Josh Brownhill

We need to show greater ruthlessness in moving players off our books in May-I think Alan Pace will push for it. We used to be great and getting good money for players past their best, but now there appears to be less focus in trying to generate income rather than putting them out on loan.I find it ...
by elwaclaret
Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton
Replies: 22
Views: 3226

Re: Everton

Part of the modern trend to accept no responsibility for historical wrong doing. Society has been let down by populism in politics, now society apes the politics of the last twenty years of political rule. Attracting money and power is all that matters, turn a blind eye… oh that went wrong, we need ...
by elwaclaret
Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - MAN UTD v BURNLEY
Replies: 2489
Views: 151006

Re: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - LIVERPOOL v BURNLEY

Burnley 2-1 Arsenal - Brownhill 46 mins

Championship
by elwaclaret
Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Next 10 games
Replies: 128
Views: 5148

Re: Next 10 games

If we are relegated, that is a major concern, we may well look at loaning out players to keep them on the books with the hope that we bounce straight back. Even that will see us having to rebuild but the loan market may be the way to recruit. If we find the quality of Beyer, THB, Tella and Maatsen ...
by elwaclaret
Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Next 10 games
Replies: 128
Views: 5148

Re: Next 10 games

yep we can't do that, 2 or 3 is ok but anymore and it's just another **** show. I think the story was Assignon would only consider a perm move IF we stayed up. I don't give us a chance of staying up sadly Still believing but it’s getting a bit like still believing in Santa after seeing your dad put...
by elwaclaret
Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arsenal goals yesterday against the Clarets…
Replies: 5
Views: 855

Re: Arsenal goals yesterday against the Clarets…

I reckon the Clarets goalkeeper was to blame for at least 3 of the Arsenal goals… Let’s see how Trafford does next week when Arsenal play the real Clarets, I reckon this board would have gone into meltdown if it was Trafford in goal yesterday making those mistakes! Are you suggesting West Ham fans ...
by elwaclaret
Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Next 10 games
Replies: 128
Views: 5148

Re: Next 10 games

I know it's highly unlikely but Assignon would be an unreal permanent signing I don’t disagree with Goody’s assessment, but you touch on the problem. How many of the better performers are we going to keep if we go down? We could end up with an endless cycle of rinse and repeat, new builds every sea...
by elwaclaret
Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?
Replies: 71
Views: 3773

Re: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?

No idea, but even if he was, that is a signal for the players to get out of the way of Trafford, not a signal to stop marking the forwards. Not that anyone was marking Jota. Obviously Trafford made the wrong choice, and his better choice would have been to stay on his line and hope to save the free...
by elwaclaret
Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Replies: 721
Views: 28500

Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)

I have kept my peace about our young keeper, hoping against hope he’d prove the doubters wrong, but I feel the time has past the lad be given some breathing space to recover his confidence which is clearly shot. Keepers are not getting fouls for every touch this season… unlike most of Trafford’s car...
by elwaclaret
Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blue card
Replies: 37
Views: 2260

Re: Blue card

Brilliant idea, but I think they’ve missed a trick… the referee should hold three cards and the guilty player has to pick one to decide the punishment. While we are at it there should be a second referee; the first reverting to all black kit, the second to all white. When the referees disagree they ...
by elwaclaret
Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dara O'Shea
Replies: 80
Views: 5193

Re: Dara O'Shea

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:46 pm
Bounces around a bit too much.
Bloody hard to man mark though.
by elwaclaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match presser
Replies: 183
Views: 8535

Re: Post match presser

Why? Is 13 points at this stage of the season acceptable to you? It is extremely disappointing. I’m sure everyone agree’s that much. However, I can see old mantras like Rome was not built in a day and previous managers I recall coming in and being honest… Stan’s it will get worse before it gets bet...
by elwaclaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match presser
Replies: 183
Views: 8535

Re: Post match presser

I think those of you calling VK a busted flush really need to give their heads a wobble.
by elwaclaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match presser
Replies: 183
Views: 8535

Re: Post match presser

I was quite pleased with that interview. What he said was very different than what he communicated. Very upset and annoyed that we did not win that football match… he did not see the come back as much to celebrate as a result. He knows himself this is now time to stop stroking egos to improve perfor...
by elwaclaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Q and A Sessions with VK
Replies: 90
Views: 4206

Re: Q and A Sessions with VK

Seems like it’s the latest buzzword Not a word I have used, but I understand it. Burnley have always had favourite players and continuity across several seasons where fans got to knows players games and got a feel for the team. I’m the first to admit I could name teams from the seventies onward, ev...
by elwaclaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat
Replies: 113
Views: 6936

Re: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat

Unlike others I feel most of the loan players have a long term future at the club, but that it has been identified players may develop quicker by working with other coaches and different ideas to give these young lads a more rounded football education and chance to bulk up while playing at a good le...
by elwaclaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson
Replies: 15
Views: 2726

Re: Benson

I just think the four year plan has been stuck to rigidly. Had we not taken the league by storm last season this would all be happening at a lower level. Benson’s fitness to complete a full game has clearly been an issue since he arrived. That he still lacks condition suggests his body just may not ...
by elwaclaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
Replies: 129
Views: 6711

Re: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds

I suspect Connor has struggled this season after seeing the gang ‘all for one’ mentality of last season dismantled. Hopefully we will see it return to some degree in the coming weeks. I can see Roberts returning after a freshen up at Leeds, and it would not surprise me to see him back around the tea...
by elwaclaret
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Turning point
Replies: 3
Views: 927

Re: Turning point

At 90 minutes, last night, I lip read the ref say, “next goals the winner”. So although we didn’t get the points we won. That goal is the turning point for me of this hoodoo that City have over us. We’ll lick em next time. We said the same thing about Hamburg SV in 1960 and I don’t think they have ...
by elwaclaret
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Positives or clutching at straws
Replies: 51
Views: 3335

Re: Positives or clutching at straws

Never really liked the Premier league...maybe under Coyle and the early Dyche seasons the novelty has well and truly worn off now the Championship plsses all over the Premier league. Must admit I sympathise. I prefer watching football matches to theatre on the pitch myself to be honest; but club an...
by elwaclaret
Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Things could be worse.
Replies: 16
Views: 2281

Re: Things could be worse.

The ultimate legacy of Jack Walker seems to have been a whole population devoid of any sense of reality. Their trajectory for many years has been similar to our former plummet down the leagues… only checked so far at India’s expense. With it looking increasingly likely that funding is about to dry u...
by elwaclaret
Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Positives or clutching at straws
Replies: 51
Views: 3335

Re: Positives or clutching at straws

Think we can start to see why Kompany said it would be a four year project, and that we got promotion a year early. A slight adaption perhaps to going up (and I thought we would have enough to beyond stay up this season) but the plan has remained much the same. I suspect that is why VK still has a s...