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Not sure it's been mentioned, but this was Luton's first defeat in 16 matches at home in a midweek night fixture. Ok, the previous 15 were in a lower division, but I think it shows us that Kenilworth Rd is a very hostile place to go, particularly under the floodlights. We stood up pretty well defens...

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boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:34 pm
Going back to the game itself and the result, had this been a Championship game last season with both of us near the top I honestly don't think anyone would be moaning.

I think that's a reasonable comment. We'd have said a hard earned away victory against a tough team.

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Swizzlestick wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:26 pm

Though I agree Brownhill on free kicks is baffling…

That's my point really.

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Sorry, I thought this mini conversation was instigated by a post suggesting we should hire Luton's set piece coach. No worries, and I'm sure we will improve throughout the season (with our own coaches :D ). It was, but I - perhaps wrongly, assumed it meant our set pieces, not our defending of them!!

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taio wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:11 pm
There's an obvious reason why it's not our strength. Trade-offs

Again I don't disagree, but surely someone can do better than Brownhill with a dead ball?

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So you can be 100% sure that Luton's set piece coach could sort our defence out with respect to corners and free-kicks? I thought that we were discussing Luton's delivery into the box compared to ours? Luton's delivery and movement were way superior to ours. With regards to defending set pieces, I'...

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boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:07 pm
Surely the point is that they didn't score from these set pieces.

No, because most other teams do, and we lose.

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taio wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:06 pm
They are set up to be effective at set pieces. We aren't - our strengths are elsewhere.

No doubt, but currently our set pieces are poor. Surely you agree?

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Swizzlestick wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:56 pm
How many goals did they score from their numerous set pieces tonight?

That's really not the point. They ought to have scored two or even three from set pieces, but their finishing isn't generally up to PL standard.

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Nonayforever wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:47 pm
We should be looking at signing Lutons set piece coach. He seems to have more idea than ours.

I bet he wouldn't allow Brownhill anywhere near them.
So many wasted opportunities from free-kicks and corners.

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Seemingly England followed the VAR protocols by saying "Check complete" - (having mistakenly thought that the on-field ref had given the goal). No defence for England, but it would surely simplify things and avoid such errors if: 1. We could hear the conversation 2. As in other sports, the VAR offic...

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He had his chance to join us and preferred to stay at Chelsea Now Chelsea are going to shat on him Without knowing the ins and outs of this, it sounds like quite the opposite. Maatsen refused to move on deadline day. Chelsea therefore missed out on what was reported to be a big fee. If he is now re...

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HagridsHut wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:30 pm
It’s just a tree

That's the whole point.
You can rebuild / replace an iconic building, structure, statue etc., but you can't rebuild a tree, and it will take centuries to regrow similar.
Vandalising /felling a healthy tree is one of the worst forms of vandalism. Irreparable, irreplaceable.

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Benson injured?
Benson and Hedges apparently
(Hedges potentially out for 3 months.)

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Has Kompany actually said that we will get £100 million for a player? I don't think so. Surely he is referring to future value, so it could be we sell player A to club B for £25 / 30 million, player A then moves from club B to C for say £50 million and then from club C to club D for £100 million. Th...

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I didn’t say you were but some posters on this thread have suggested that is his level. If either party thought that was a good outcome then why did it not happen ? As I said maybe the player and the manager thought that staying was the best outcome - given that’s what happened. Maybe the manager w...

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That’s still £750k a year. I don’t think the likes of Barrow, Crewe and the other types of team some people are suggesting are his level can afford to spend half their team budget on one player. As in many discussions on this board, there is an alternative middle ground. (We don't have to choose ex...

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If he is as bad as you are making out then that’s even more reason for him not to leave mid contract. Jay is on around £1.5m a year. Up until recently that was the salary cap in division 2 for each team !! So why should he have left in the summer ? Because a season long loan deal to a lower divisio...

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I think it's fair to say that the result is beyond doubt.
The only question now is, which of the two other Manchester clubs we get in the next round?

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Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:44 pm
Not difficult with 0 shots on target

But the way we play that's not really the point. He's far more than a shot stopper.

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Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:52 pm
Jack Cork playing CB WTF.

Why not in a game like this? He reads the game well, can head a ball and is a good passer.
All part of our developing fluidity and "total football" ethos.

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I know. He got the Berge decision wrong. But that’s my point, just because he got that wrong I wouldn’t want him to get every handball decision wrong - which some people oddly do. Yes, I understand your point, but if he's been told that he made the wrong decision against us, then surely he should h...

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RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:50 pm
Who would you replace on the bench?

Delcroix was the defensive option.

And based on his brief appearances so far Delcroix is ahead of O'Shea on merit.

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Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:59 pm
But by the laws of the game it’s simply not handball.

But (IMO and most other people's) neither was Berge's, and yet it was the same guy on VAR. He should be permanently removed from this duty.

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Would you be okay with a sign on the wall in the cinema asking people to not talk or use their phone during the film? That would be a step in the right direction. I find some people's behaviour in the cinema to be very distracting and irritating..... and it's not just children and teenagers. A lot ...

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Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:50 pm
and this is why nobody should ever listen to me when it comes to football

Martin won't last much longer though at Saints !

I reckon he's neck and neck with the Watford manager.
Watford board have been very patient so far!

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Short version - gutted we didn’t win, and gutted that Foster’s petulance means we will miss him (and boy, will we) for three games. Delighted with the performance though. I really don't think that Foster would have been selected to play at Salford anyway, so effectively it's just two games, and he'...

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Generally I thought the ref did fine. Sold an absolute pup by VAR but that isn't his fault. Foster incident isn't a penalty. Foster is never anywhere near the ball. Sorry, I strongly disagree. The rules say that a foul is a foul. The ball doesn't have to be near. Off the ball incidents are often pu...

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claretspice wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:40 pm
Cos the ball went nowhere near them so it didn't impact on the game.

But when you're being held by the shirt you can't move into a space to receive the ball.
It's a foul and yellow card anywhere on the pitch.

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If VAR can - correctly - give him a red card for the elbow, why can't it also give Burnley the penalty for Yates deliberately holing Foster's shirt inthe same incident?

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Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:49 pm
Vinny to Huddersfield?

No you got the wrong Jones!

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Transpennine wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:02 pm

Rumours in Udders is Nathan Jones...

So all that Warnock achieved last season will be at serious risk.

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Personally I'm desperate to see us not get opened up everytime the opposition attack, so I'd start like this and take it from here as the game develops: .......Trafford (purely because he's better with the high ball)... ................Al Dakhil............Beyer..........Delcroix............... Rob...

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CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:22 pm
Better off just taking the goal?
Instead of playing most of the game with 10, reserve keeper and being suspended for 3 games.

I think that would be considered a "professional foul" and so a one game ban, but I guess it could be considered to be violent conduct, in which case 3.

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Spijed wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:39 pm
The only two rousing anthems seem to be the French and Italian ones.

Uruguay - at least as good if not better.
The intro is longer than our anthem at about 40 seconds!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc6L_0N ... bleNations

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On the other hand, people at other clubs don't see our ban from signing players in April and May as a significant punishment! Well it actually wasn't significant because the window wasn't open. It assured however that we dealt promptly with the situation so that we could sign players as soon as the...

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The game was at Norden n/d and even though Darwen lost, they could still have gained 5 batting points which would have been enough for the title I believe. That game finished just after the Burnley game. Oops! I'd forgotten that it was at Norden but still pretty near. I've not got the exact timings...

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They must have been extremely confident Burnley were going to win ahead of Darwen ! Darwen lost early. After that result, Burnley only needed to pick up a no result or the odd bonus point, but looked like winning anyway, so it would have been logical to take the trophy to Lowerhouse as soon as Darw...

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(Of course, impressionists wouldn't do "blackface" any more, or caricature ethnic minorities - and rightly so.) You mean like John Bird doing Idi Amin Dada on TW3-why not? Yarwood had the Gannex coat and pipe for Wilson. Exactly, Yarwood worked at a time when a lot of the comedians mimicked ethnic ...

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The politicians loved hi.Wilson Heath Healey.Robin Day also thought highly of him.He did the voices perfectly,took the Mick and guess what, nobody was "offended" Have there been reports of modern day politicians being offended by some of our current excellent impressionists / mimics like John Culsh...

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Deeney says the people in question were on holiday in Dubai over the summer, hard to see that as too taxing for their mental health. I think we're addressing two separate issues here. What I'm referring to is players who "retire" in their early 30s (having been earning really big money) and then ha...

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Not sure what ego has got to do with it. If they don’t need the money why should they work? I presume those commenting otherwise would take a part time job at Tescos if they won the euro millions. Not trying to be contradictory, but I would have thought that a gradual descent and playing at a lower...

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Would have preferred this in the New Year. I think we will get better and stronger as the season goes on, and (just like us) I think Luton may well see this as a (sort of) Cup tie, and their first chance to put some points on the board.
Hope I'm totally wrong, of course.

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Same in Jimmy Mac lower,lost 8 1, West Brom,1969,stayed to the end,KEEP THE FAITH,beat by a better team,move on,We will bounce back,like We always do,UTC. If as I assume you are referring to 1967. The game was away at WBA, which is a bit different to a home game - in terms of leaving early. My main...

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FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:32 am
Imagine if Burnley FC had got a bonus point against Spurs for scoring a second goal and ONLY losing 5-2 instead of 5-1

That exactly what happens in some sports. e.g. Rugby.
(Not that you'd expect a bonus point for a 5-2 loss)

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Bonus points for losing can't be made to sound less ridiculous. How on earth can a league award bonuses for teams who lose? A losing team can come away with seven points in a game when a winning team on the same day can get just ten. I always thought the object of the game was to play to win. I agr...

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No idea how Darwen lost and yet got 5 batting points for scoring about 140 all out While Burnley scored 271/7 and got zero batting points !!!! Bedford got a ton for Burnley House are now fifth on 148 points for anybody who is interested There's no perfect system for allotting bonus points, but the ...

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I thought they were very fair, and focussed far more on Spurs qualities under Postecoglou than our deficiencies.
My only quibble would be that they didn't show the excellent Amdouni shot in the first half.

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We win our game in hand and we're out of the bottom 3.
In fact we go 16th!

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IanMcL wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:19 pm
Everton seem to be ready to stuff Mr Dyche and his team. Iwobi and Maupay sold. None in.

None in?
Does news not travel north of the border?
A couple of v good signings, and Maupay no loss.

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