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by NewClaret
Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
Replies: 198
Views: 13401

Re: Nottingham Forest tweet

Bosscat wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:06 pm
"Wonders" was the VAR official at Stockley Pk covering the Semi between Cov and Yoontid a Yoontid fan 🤔 ruling out the "injury time in extra time" goal for a toenail offside 😉
These toenail offside decisions are infuriating. We just need to scrap VAR.
by NewClaret
Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
Replies: 198
Views: 13401

Re: Nottingham Forest tweet

Why would you advise a club that a points increase is unlikely. The options available should be clearly defined and able for a club to refer to. To state that a points increase is unlikely is almost encouraging a club to appeal. Just read it again, actually says ‘sky sports news has been told a poi...
by NewClaret
Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
Replies: 198
Views: 13401

Re: Nottingham Forest tweet

A quick Google states their appeal is set to be heard on Wednesday. No date for decision yet. Same article suggests they were given a 6 point deduction reduced to 4 points due to an 'early plea' and 'cooperation'. Can't imagine they're still seen as cooperative. An appeal certainly doesn't indicate...
by NewClaret
Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
Replies: 198
Views: 13401

Re: Nottingham Forest tweet

What they have done here in making the Luton reference is question the integrity of the referee. That has to be unacceptable. I assume they will get a charge from the FA that will end in a fine. Correct and exactly what will happen. How’s the injuries Tony? Hope you’re not too badly bruised today.
by NewClaret
Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:45 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Berge
Replies: 47
Views: 4157

Re: Berge

It would be great to have him for one year in the Championship. Will he want to stay, though? Probably not. My point above is more that when players sign contracts they commit to the club for a period. If we wanted to not sign Tresor now for example, we couldn’t just decide ourselves not to bother ...
by NewClaret
Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Finishing above Forest
Replies: 32
Views: 4125

Re: Finishing above Forest

taio wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:05 am
Fancy us getting something at Old Trafford. United play today and Wednesday before Saturday, and they are pretty shite.
Need a few reds and injuries in those games :D
by NewClaret
Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Finishing above Forest
Replies: 32
Views: 4125

Re: Finishing above Forest

Forest are only team we could possibly catch. Last game against them will be meaningless. How many points do we think we can get away to united home to Newcastle away to spurs. Very few in my opinion. Agree with this, I don’t think there will be many A freak result at home to Newcastle will be our ...
by NewClaret
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Finishing above Forest
Replies: 32
Views: 4125

Re: Finishing above Forest

The galling thing is a change of keeper has led to six games and 9 points with goals conceded of 7 and that with our keeper costing us 3 points or maybe more Even if we lose the next 4 games that is 9 from 10 as opposed to 14 from 28. It is hard for me to believe a change of keeper sooner would not...
by NewClaret
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Berge
Replies: 47
Views: 4157

Re: Berge

If we really have any intention to establish ourselves as a premier league team again in future we MUST keep Sander in summer. He’s one of the only few who’s looked premier league class all season. The posts above about ambition or being deserving of a premier league team I understand but at some po...
by NewClaret
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Berge
Replies: 47
Views: 4157

Re: Berge

My only black mark against him is how often he carries the ball to about 25yds out and he is still looking for the pass. Have a do lad, chance your luck. It’s a simple percentages thing there. The chances of scoring outside the box are so much lowe than inside it. Any good coach would tell him to p...
by NewClaret
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Claret Tony
Replies: 50
Views: 5999

Re: Claret Tony

Really sorry to hear that Tony. That must have have been a huge shock… followed by an even huger one - am away win.

Hope you heal quickly and the wrist doesn’t prevent the match report.
by NewClaret
Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Luton
Replies: 11
Views: 2663

Re: Luton

Just watching them and the goal difference really should’ve been higher tonight.

Should’ve been 8 or 9 nil.
by NewClaret
Sat Apr 20, 2024 2:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 15,000 renewals on season tickets!
Replies: 27
Views: 3357

Re: 15,000 renewals on season tickets!

Didnt we sell nearer 18 thousand last year in total, leaving a % for walk ons etc. Whatever the final total will be, its great to see so many still want to attend matches……..and why would you not, its going to be great next season ;) No, max is either 16k or 16.5k. When allowing for hospitality, aw...
by NewClaret
Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 15,000 renewals on season tickets!
Replies: 27
Views: 3357

Re: 15,000 renewals on season tickets!

It's a great effort, and good to see that so many are renewing. Reading this forum, you'd think we'd be lucky to get more than 12k renewing. Then again, some of the biggest whingers on here don't go anywhere near. What’s also quite funny is how few posts the positive news threads get. Don’t hear fr...
by NewClaret
Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 15,000 renewals on season tickets!
Replies: 27
Views: 3357

Re: 15,000 renewals on season tickets!

It must be very close to this season, as we can only sell around 16/17000, with having 2250 for away fans and having to leave a similar number for 'walk ons'. I’ve just found a post from Burnley saying that we’d sold 15,000 in the week before the early bird closed last year, so we’re broadly in lin...
by NewClaret
Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So who's renewed their ST?
Replies: 290
Views: 14302

Re: So who's renewed their ST?

Seems nearly everyone then!

Brilliant effort. Will have to see how many on the waiting list buy now to see if we sell out again.
by NewClaret
Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 15,000 renewals on season tickets!
Replies: 27
Views: 3357

Re: 15,000 renewals on season tickets!

That’s an absolutely fantastic effort.

Well done clarets and it’ll be interesting to see how many of the waiting list now buy tickets.

Was it 16,000 or 16,500 we sold this year?
by NewClaret
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Taffy
Replies: 155
Views: 6650

Re: Taffy

Oh my word, I’m so sorry to hear this.

Thoughts with his family and friends at this difficult time.
by NewClaret
Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So who's renewed their ST?
Replies: 290
Views: 14302

Re: So who's renewed their ST?

I think if we sold out of season tickets again it would be amazing. Considering the negativity you see on here, it doesn't seem to translate into ticket sales When you look through the Matchday threads it’s quite often very clear that the most negative don’t attend matches. Or aren’t season ticket ...
by NewClaret
Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So who's renewed their ST?
Replies: 290
Views: 14302

Re: So who's renewed their ST?

I think 15k was about the limit. 3k walk ons needed. 2k for corporate 2.2k for away fans Fag packet maths is 22.5k so a bit of wiggle room 21.5k capacity I think this year we had 16,500 ST holders so 15,000 would be a reduction on that, but if the waiting list really is 2,000 then my 15,000 project...
by NewClaret
Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:35 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Safe standing at the Turf
Replies: 58
Views: 3662

Re: Safe standing at the Turf

You would like to think so, there was a slight increase in capacity when the away seats were changed for plastic. That’s correct. On the stadium tour a while back I was told capacity increased by 250 when the away end was changed to plastic. Given it only looks about a third of the stand, you might...
by NewClaret
Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So who's renewed their ST?
Replies: 290
Views: 14302

Re: So who's renewed their ST?

if you can believe the ticket office, they told me about 14000 were sold when i went in on the Brighton game I imagine that’ll creep up to maybe 15,000 with annual payers leaving it till the last minute to renew. Good effort if we can get 15,000. Anyone remember what it was last season in the Champ...
by NewClaret
Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Safe standing at the Turf
Replies: 58
Views: 3662

Re: Safe standing at the Turf

Presumably Ian, there is evidence of the current standing arrangements in the CFS being unsafe? The CFS in it’s entirety is inherently unsafe by today’s standards and requirements. 600 people moving in and out of the outside seating area through 1 access and egress point is shockingly bad, as is th...
by NewClaret
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: FA Cup Replays
Replies: 80
Views: 3208

Re: FA Cup Replays

Grimsby have done the same.

Absolute disgrace our national game and cup is being manipulated by a small number of clubs looking after their own self interest.

Surely they’ll have to back it out like the super league? The government should intervene.
by NewClaret
Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Yes it is. And I don't want Burnley FC to be run like a business. I want Burnley FC run by someone whose ambition is for Burnley FC to continue in existence for ever, while playing football as well as we can. I don't want it to be run by someone whose ambition is to make money. I will respond to yo...
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:19 pm
Great summary, thanks. However, would the alleged events in the quoted paragraph not be fraudulent?
I’m pretty certain they would be, albeit difficult to prove if what was said or inferred between parties I imagine.
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weds Games
Replies: 54
Views: 2766

Re: Weds Games

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:18 pm
I think City need Doku on here. It’s too one-dimensional at the minute.
He’s definitely changed the game.
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Visitor to Gawthorpe
Replies: 5
Views: 1827

Re: Visitor to Gawthorpe

Assume this means it’s an old pic from when JJ was over (and he’s not joining the TST).
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

this is what he said "I don't mean to be over-dramatic on it because I can't explain it, but if you knew you would be 'oh my goodness, this is incredible'.” Alan Pace, January 5 2021, introductory press conference – a response to a question about the financial structure of the takeover I think he h...
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

What do you honestly think motivates them to spend their days in rainy Lancashire rather than sipping cocktails on Palm Beach? I answered this above: I think in Alan’s case most likely the opportunity to be involved in the sport industry and football particularly given what he’s said about his time...
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

They’re obviously not going to state that their primary objective is to profit from BFC are they. As for thousands of ways to make money easier than owning a football club… do I remember correctly Chester Perry saying he believes ALK have already made a return on their initial investment? If so thi...
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I’d classify the Venkys in the same boat. I have no idea why them lot are throwing tennis balls on the pitch when they’ve ploughed £300m in to keep them afloat. Let me help you out with that 1. For years for they got too used to jack walkers money when the footballing landscape was far different & ...
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I'd be interested to know how much the exposure Leicester get in Thailand has lead to an increase in revenue from the Asian markets. If they've not managed to turn it into anything tangible then it's probably a waste of time us trying. I’d like to know as well. I’m not sure your assessment is entir...
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Controlling the ball with the sole of the foot
Replies: 10
Views: 1342

Re: Controlling the ball with the sole of the foot

I wonder if our goalkeeping coach will ask them to cut it out. Muric is skilful enough to trap the ball with the inside of his foot in a split second and then pass it. I’d hope he doesn’t have to. If that’s how he feels comfortable controlling the ball, I’m fine with it, I must’ve watched him in 50...
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I certainly agree that Forest and Leicester are bad ownership models, not least because they have ploughed large amounts into their clubs and blown it. Their points deductions are in large part because their owners have stuffed too much money down their gills. From post-Lord up to and including Kil...
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

To be fair they were funded significantly by Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha and by his family but their King Power company was very badly hit by the pandemic which has meant they've not had the funds to continue at the level they had previously. Yes, I think they’re an example of one club that was funded...
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Saudi Arabia and Qatar, to add a couple more. Whoever it is that owns Bournemouth, too. And Leicester and Forest, and for that matter Andy Holt at Accrington Stanley. The blokes at Wrexham, and Salford. It's not uncommon. So on Saudi and Qatar, they bought the asset themselves but I don’t think the...
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

It doesn't. Garlick took tens of millions of pounds out of the club, and the new people have done the same, and in both cases it isn't doing the club any good. These owners are financial investors and they want profit. This puts us at a disadvantage as against other PL club owners who are willing t...
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: U21s v Stockport
Replies: 41
Views: 2810

Re: U21s v Stockport

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:55 pm
Won 4-3
Good stuff. Thanks for the updates Tony.
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Chester Perry wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:54 am
it depends on who you are trying to influence - these guys are well connected in their business communities and know plenty of others of similar wealth.
Okay, I see your point. I thought you were talking about influencing fan base growth.
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

There is indeed a large amount of 'influencer' element that we are seeing at the moment - and there will be a wide range of views about that. It seems the club are still very much in the 'brand awareness' phase of it's strategy. This guys though are a few thousand followers on social media, some no...
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

randomclaret2 wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:31 am
Some insight and ideas on how to win games in the Premier League woukdnt go amiss 😉
Don’t think they’ll be offering that! :D
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:09 am
Hi Paul, why do you think it's better for the club to have a multinational mix in the ownership?
Not answering for Paul but I definitely think having Asian investors is a positive in terms of giving insight and ideas in how we might be able to grow in that region.
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So who's renewed their ST?
Replies: 290
Views: 14302

Re: So who's renewed their ST?

Just to clarify, if people are destitute it’s because of energy and food price rises, travel & accommodation costs and not being able to find an NHS dentist. If you want chat to Alan he is usually in the Royal Dyche pre match or in the Fanzone. Don’t disagree with any of that, my point was really m...
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

His grandfather (I assume):

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuok_Khoon_Hong

Worth $3.7BN according to wiki.

Might be worth a bit more than I thought ;)
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

He is, his father 'Chye' Kuok Khoon Ho is the nephew of Robert Kuok the founder of the family's business Empire Justin is part of the third generation of the family and his interest in the club is some distance from the core family wealth and enterprise which is spread all over Asia. some informati...
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

For now and the foreseeable I think it is being marketed as an asset investment based on capital growth rather than an income producing investment - the development of the multi-club format we are expecting does not change that I agree and I think that is what it was also for Garlick & JB. My point...
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I don’t know if Justin is related but the Kuok family are one of the wealthiest in Malaysia. Good spot. Seems he could be linked given he is given he previously worked at Shangri-La which is owned by the Kuok family. Robert Kuok being worth $17.7BN and the 97th richest man in the world according to...
by NewClaret
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

dsr wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:22 am
And with a share in ownership, no doubt they expect a share in the profits.
True. I’m not sure how this differs from our previous investors who also wanted to, and did, benefit from massive profits.
by NewClaret
Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1262760

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

ALK and VSP isn't about "billionaires," New. It's about Burnley giving a lot of wealthy millionaires the opportunity to have a share in ownership of Burnley football club. It's the very opposite of an individual billionaire or two. It's great to see the multinational mix amongst the club's ownershi...