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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_Burnley_F.C._season 7 wins on the bounce, top of the league 12k crowd, granted it was November, so shall we pick the sub 11k crowd for December, while 2nd etc we had less than 15k on for the last home game to celebrate promotion. So that’s 2 games in No...

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Not as bad as all those people who use the word “literally” in every sentence...despite me trying to explain that the sentence has exactly the same meaning without the word !

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Who ?

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Last season West Brom who have always had good away support brought about a thousand to the Turf for their first away game of the season. Does that not suggest to you that they were fed up of being in mid table watching Pulis bore them to tears every week? It was in August so lots of people on holi...

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Point taken. I would urge anyone to watch the Wolves game. In the first half alone there were 3 golden chances created due to inept play down our left. We didn’t play well at Fulham and in the second half against Watford at a time where we were basically travelling and playing with limited practice...

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claretonthecoast1882 wrote:He even manages to ignore that when we were in the top 2 positions and winning most games in the championship we still some games with crowds of 11 - 12,000.

Did we ?
Which games did we get that crowd when we were in the top 2 ?

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Love these threads how some posters struggle with the concept of an opinion ! For me it was Fletcher because he did it at a higher level for longer than Taylor and Hamilton. Think Taylor was a really under rated player for us and as somebody said SD would have loved him as he was great in both boxes...

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He's just been seen outside his house in full Villa kit holding the European Cup from their 1982 victory....apparently he played a key role.

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It’s a team game and when members of a team have no faith in some members of the team it has an effect. We are not defending as a unit because whilst he does the football version of the okey cokey in not knowing his distances or when to close and when to leave a gap everyone else can see this and i...

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Hibsclaret wrote:Two words
Charlie Taylor

Nah - that’s rubbish.
Taylor is struggling for sure but it’s stretching the imagination to think he is to blame for Mee losing the ball twice when he was last man or passing a ball 30 yards away from his intended target.

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Southampton Bournemouth Big parts of Watford game We played well. Fulham Wolves Man United Cardiff Huddersfield We have been truly awful. We look like a side who at the moment could get a real thrashing when we play one of the big teams. Of course United are big but look at their other results and t...

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I thought he was awful for us...seems like he has had a decent career in the lower league / non league though. Did he not do well at Kidderminster for a while ?
When he played for us he had energy....and not much else.

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Last season Ward was playing brilliantly at times so would we have been much better off had we signed Robertson? No guarantee. Ben Mee was also playing brilliantly at times but whilst there are still no guarantees I reckon we would be better off is we had signed Van Dyke !! To answer your question ...

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Hart 7 - did well again and no chance with goal. Cannot understand anyone scoring him low. Been our best player this season. Lowton 4 - not sure whether he was under instruction to not go forward or whether this was because we were outnumbered in midfield but when Lowts is pushed back like this it h...

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You might have said it before but you are still wrong !

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The lengths that Ronaldo will go to prove he is not having an affair with that Mexican UFC fighter he keeps flying over to Madeira in his private jet

Very clever !

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You are spot on, BUT, I’ll just counter that.... We have in excess of £100,000,000 in the bank and we didn’t spend anywhere near enough on truly improving and deepening our squad. We might only be small fry, but our huge financial incomings (and substantial sales) over the last two or three years, ...

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I thought I'd made it pretty clear what I was arguing, but here it is again. All we're doing now is repeating ourselves, so I'll just leave it and agree to disagree. Although I'll just add that the blatant time wasting that many teams indulge in, including our own, makes games a lot more painful to...

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So if you campaign against diving but don’t campaign against players claiming for a throw in you think that makes you hypocritical. If Dyche campaigned against the 2 footed tackle but not against pushing someone over would that be hypocritical ? They are both examples of cheating. Its clearly about ...

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piston broke wrote:Was it a loan or a gift? I know it was very close to his demise.

Not sure - hopefully a loan at Wonga rates !

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My understanding reading the reports last week was that it was Davies (or his estate technically) that agreed to lend the club a few million last week as they were hours from going into administration and getting 12 points deducted.

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See dsr`s response above - some are clearly more objectionable than others. The only reason I "latched on" to the claiming a throw in is because that is the example you used !! But as it happens its a great example of showing how some forms of "cheating" are more acceptable than others. Lets use ano...

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I pretty sure nobody measures it on "wins in the future" Taio !!

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For me it is the size of the name of the club that counts so Tottenham Hotspurs are definitely bigger than Everton and slightly bigger than Newcatle United That makes Brighton the biggest team in the Premier League I think But not the world....the German team Ballvereinborussiadortmundneunzehnhunde...

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I was asking how you personally determine what level of cheating is acceptable. You obviously haven't done all those things. Originally you appeared to say that it was the consequences of the cheating that determined whether it was acceptable or not, so does that mean diving is acceptable when it d...

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tim_noone wrote:Salzburg v Marseille Europa semi final. Fresh in the memory bank. A corner that wasn't.. awarded to marseille which saw them through to the Final.May 2018

ok - was it just a referee / linesman error or was it caused by somebody "cheating" ?

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Totally agree but if you do try and take a step back and take a neutral position on this rather than being partisan to your club then most people with common sense would say it is not one single metric but a number of them....and yes they might carry different weightings if we wanted to get all algo...

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I could have answered it in a really long winded way about how we set up a framework to decide this, undertake a feasibility study, involve all relevant parties (including fans etc) and then come up with a new set of guidelines.....that would have directly answered your question as to "how" but to b...

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They are definitely a bigger club than Newcastle by most metrics - history, wealth, value of squad, transfer fees, trophies won, appearances in European competitions, finishing position in the Premier League. The only metric they come close is support and just because Newcastle currently get more fa...

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claiming for a thrown in or corner is acceptable - i can't remember many goals occurring when somebody has claimed for a corner or thrown in and the referee gives the wrong decision (it does happen more when officials just get the decision wrong) time wasting (or game management) is acceptable...but...

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Do you not think that the impact / consequence it often has on the game makes it worse ? That's plenty of a good enough reason for me. Personally don't think it makes SD hypocritical at all as I do not things you mention are in the same category. I don't even class them as "cheating" personally. I h...

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2010 was an awful long time ago....but I still haven't got over what John McGinley did to us at the Turf many years earlier (!!) so I am happy to see them rot. They played the billy big ******** club over us for a number of years and certainly used their "riches" over us when they persuaded Judas to...

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Diving is also something that goes on and has done for a long time at all levels of football and isn't really the worst offence in the world either (compared to a studs-up tackle, for example). I'm also not sure that most of the time it leads to a card. So you don't think diving is worse than claim...

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I can't stand the bloke but think getting rid of him would be harsh. With that team he has I think it was a minor miracle that they got promoted last year....i would not have backed them for a top half finish. They had journeymen from lower divisions and players like Junior Toilet who did not even h...

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Poor !

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What is it about diving that makes it worse than other forms of cheating, such as time-wasting or appealing for a throw-in/corner when they know they touched the ball last? The consequences probably. Most of the time there is a chance it will lead to a yellow (or red) card and possibly a penalty. N...

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Barnes doesn't dive, I believe, but he is great at generating contact and then usually goes down very easily. Diving, to my mind, is when there has been no contact or the player feels contact then theatrically throws himself 20 feet a la Ramsay. That’s a pretty fine line you are walking there. 100%...

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Agree with you their IT
Ironically she was on This Week to talk about privacy and how she herself uses social media. Basic principle was that she keeps her personal life to herself and only shares things with her fans / followers in relation to her music.

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Fake news IT she’s not blind in one eye - she’s got a condition with one eye which basically droops the eyelid and she has always been really conscious as to how this looks. So purely cosmetic but perfectly reasonable for her to do that if it makes her feel more confident / less self conscious. I kn...

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100% agree dsr My view has always been that as soon as a player decides that he will exaggerate or embellish his fall then he is trying to deceive the officials - ie he is cheating. As soon as that point is established then this should override any contact that was made and the referee should not gi...

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Dyche has been pretty consistent in his views against diving and it’s good that he has taken this stance. I think Dyche worked under Malkay McKay under Watford. I was sat in the Bob Lord stand one year when he brought his side to the Turf and in 40 years of supporting Burnley I have rarely seen the ...

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No demand for an update on Gibson ? What I am saying is when he is fit he will be in the side, It doesn't speed anything up by getting a weekly update, unless you are an idiot and thinks Dyche leaves better players out the squad and says they are injured. Who is asking for a weekly update ? We got ...

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Well console yourself with the fact that we would not have been playing AC Milan if we would have beaten Olympiakos.

Which tit started this thread ?

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It's really not like that. It's fair to say we're not going to agree on this so I'll just go about my evening business which includes, but is not limited to, not worrying about whether I'm going to get an update on Brady's injury. It’s exactly like that - it’s communication. Why else would a club i...

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ClaretMoffitt wrote:I voted UKIP

Well done.

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I can see this becoming the new PPI

"Have you been hit by a golf ball ? Have you ever tripped on a pitch mark ? Stung by a nettle looking for your ball in the rough ?.....etc etc"

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Olympiakos just gone 1-0 up away at AC Milan

Yaya Toure starts for Olympiakos tonight.

That was a pretty tough draw for Burnley to get them in the play off round....and we still should have put 5 past them at home !

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The suggestion seemed to be that you were less bothered about knowing the status of an injury to say Phil Bardsley as opposed to Defour or Brady, and that the club should take this into consideration when giving updates. I don't think the club would consider whether the fans are more/less arsed abo...

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I doubt the club makes value judgements on its players in this way. Sorry you'll need to explain that one please. My reference to Phil Bardsley is that fans and journalists are probably less interested in certain players injury progress than others......and that is the same at every club. Most fans...

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It makes no material difference to me whether I have more information or not and I'm not going to get aerated about it. Do I want Robbie back asap? Sure, but I can't control it and me knowing more information won't bring him back any sooner. Really ? I thought if we all knew about this it would spe...

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