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- Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:06 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: James Trafford's Contract
- Replies: 168
- Views: 10621
Re: James Trafford's Contract
Totally the opposite. It's because contracts for personal services can't be enforced that the clubs want exit clauses for when their employee refuses to do his job. If Roy Race says that he will no longer play for or manage Melchester Rovers, then there is nothing in law that can make him. It is un...
- Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: James Trafford's Contract
- Replies: 168
- Views: 10621
- Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ouch- feels like a defeat that!
- Replies: 52
- Views: 3401
Re: Ouch- feels like a defeat that!
Or…..Luton, Sheffield and ourselves all draw away and close the gap to Everton and Forest, but we do it against far superior opposition. It's a very small sliver the superior opposition which is cancelled out by a game less if that's the rate of progress which translates into some meaningful escape...
- Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Recruitment
- Replies: 35
- Views: 2181
Re: Recruitment
Our only home win was against them and it was a 5-0 hammering. Tells you all you need to know about them. We've a better squad with heaps more potential at the level below than their team of more or less journeymen. Generally accepted by the wider media that we've been better and should have more p...
- Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:32 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: James Trafford's Contract
- Replies: 168
- Views: 10621
- Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:25 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: James Trafford's Contract
- Replies: 168
- Views: 10621
- Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:24 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: James Trafford's Contract
- Replies: 168
- Views: 10621
Re: James Trafford's Contract
He's under employment he's contracted. If what you are saying is correct no need would exist for all the clauses & contract conditions that exist.
- Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:36 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: James Trafford's Contract
- Replies: 168
- Views: 10621
- Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:54 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: James Trafford's Contract
- Replies: 168
- Views: 10621
Re: James Trafford's Contract
Pure crackpot to think that such things are written into contracts in the PL in the modern day. Stuff like this will have happened way back when when things were a bit more 'cowboy' (for want of a better term) or stars being brought into development leagues or something but this is just madness. It...
- Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:47 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: James Trafford's Contract
- Replies: 168
- Views: 10621
- Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:33 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: James Trafford's Contract
- Replies: 168
- Views: 10621
Re: James Trafford's Contract
Anything is enforceable providing all parties agree to it & it's safe & legal.
- Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:18 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: James Trafford's Contract
- Replies: 168
- Views: 10621
Re: James Trafford's Contract
No, it's not correct. It's a silly rumour, possibly made up by people who can't believe that Kompany could disagree with them. No club would ever put that contract term in, and it probably wouldn't be enforceable anyway. (And what possible interest could a previous club have in such a clause?) Why ...
- Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:21 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: James Trafford's Contract
- Replies: 168
- Views: 10621
Re: James Trafford's Contract
I occasionally read on here that Trafford has a clause in his contract that he must be selected to play except for injury Is this correct? He is a signed player not a loan. Is he , or his previous club able to enforce such a contract condition? (apologies if this is a repeat query. My computer skil...
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Unpopular opinions
- Replies: 126
- Views: 6311
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Recruitment
- Replies: 35
- Views: 2181
Re: Recruitment
There's not much in it it's a sad state of affairs when the last chink of positivity rests on not finishing bottom & that's all realistically that's left of a dark season that could & should have been far different.
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Unpopular opinions
- Replies: 126
- Views: 6311
Re: Unpopular opinions
In hindsight it looks a bit strange we went for a 6th left sided winger in Redmond over Townsend who’s looked decent in the right whenever he’s played. Can only imagine it was his age that factored in (Redmond a couple of years younger). It was a mistake not getting him I'm pretty sure he would hav...
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Unpopular opinions
- Replies: 126
- Views: 6311
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Unpopular opinions
- Replies: 126
- Views: 6311
- Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:10 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany quote
- Replies: 161
- Views: 7897
Re: Kompany quote
He's made a rod for his own back with the haphazard approach to recruiting mainly targeting players he thinks the club can make a quick buck on in the future & not focusing on what's needed to be competitive in the top league. I think he thought he could get away with it but no margin for error it's...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fan’s View (version 2)
- Replies: 58
- Views: 4194
Re: Fan’s View (version 2)
I’m going to have to disagree, it’s basic financial management to mitigate and plan for possible and probable events. Surely we aren't talking about the same Einstein who somehow managed to take a gamble firing a manager who pretty much specialises in tried & trusted methods ensuring teams don't ge...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fan’s View (version 2)
- Replies: 58
- Views: 4194
Re: Fan’s View (version 2)
Not if you keep on borrowing it isn't.Holtyclaret wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:45 pmAbsolutely, it wouldn’t be cheap but isn’t ’unaffordable‘ by any stretch should the need arise.
Not that I’m expecting it anytime soon.
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Unpopular opinions
- Replies: 126
- Views: 6311
Re: Unpopular opinions
I think it was Koleosho who was signed instead, so that was the better deal Nothing in it for me between Redmond and townsend, so nothing lost there It's difficult to compare between them all. I can remember the big fuss when we was in for Townsend all the baloney about fitness issues & previous in...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Unpopular opinions
- Replies: 126
- Views: 6311
Re: Unpopular opinions
He doesn't have to be they aren't doing so bad without him. Townsend would have only played a similar role for us as redmond, well before he got injured. Townsend was a wage until the season ended & a option the question is would he have been a better option.
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 3:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fan’s View (version 2)
- Replies: 58
- Views: 4194
Re: Fan’s View (version 2)
About 20 times you’ve said we can’t afford to sack him. Roughly, very ball park, how much do you envisage it’d cost us? When’s his contract up? Do you think it’d be cheaper to sack him as a champ manager (another year further into his contract and you’d imagine on a reduced salary )? Don’t you thin...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany quote
- Replies: 161
- Views: 7897
Re: Kompany quote
I honestly don't understand how some fans think we'll maintain this squad and add to it, it's guaranteed we sell this summer. Any decent offers will be considered then we'll try and rebuild again that's what's made this season so daft because we can't keep doing it that way. We've spent all our pre...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Unpopular opinions
- Replies: 126
- Views: 6311
Re: Unpopular opinions
As a substitute most games for the balance of fairness.
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Unpopular opinions
- Replies: 126
- Views: 6311
Re: Unpopular opinions
If you never make the enquiries to start with it stands to reason you'll never make the signings.
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fan’s View (version 2)
- Replies: 58
- Views: 4194
Re: Fan’s View (version 2)
You have repeated this point on multiple threads despite the fact that you have very little or no understanding of our financial situation. Some very basic questions for you which you should know the answer to given how many times you have raised this point. 1. How much do you believe our current d...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fan’s View (version 2)
- Replies: 58
- Views: 4194
Re: Fan’s View (version 2)
I am with this article - the angriest shout the loudest .... no one is happy we have 13 points but I think 80% of fans want him to stay and 19% of the fans that want him to go will quickly change their minds if we are smashing it again 10 games into next season.... that said .... if we are nowhere ...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fan’s View (version 2)
- Replies: 58
- Views: 4194
Re: Fan’s View (version 2)
Perhaps he read the thread on here where the majority wanted him to stay Perhaps he doesn't hear any Kompany out chants at games to be able to come to that conclusion I didn't say I agreed with everything he said, or supported everything he said, I just that it was a more balanced article than vers...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:39 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Unpopular opinions
- Replies: 126
- Views: 6311
Re: Unpopular opinions
Team who finished 21 points behind Burnley, spent 20% of what Burnley did and currently have almost 50% more points this season, suggests one team is progressing and one is regressing? Does that matter? Burnley have acquired talented individuals, Luton have improved their team. I think that's overb...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany quote
- Replies: 161
- Views: 7897
Re: Kompany quote
You could say that & it wouldn't have helped. Quite a clever strategy when you think about it spend all the dosh so there's not enough to pay you outfidelcastro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:30 pmYou seem to be saying we can't afford to sack him.
Is that because of the money we've squandered this season or as well as?
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany quote
- Replies: 161
- Views: 7897
Re: Kompany quote
You said VK should change jobs. Either he walks away with something or he stays. What you are proposing doesn't make sense.
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany quote
- Replies: 161
- Views: 7897
Re: Kompany quote
He won't be walking away with nothing.fidelcastro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:21 pmNot for the first time, I've no idea what you're talking about.
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany quote
- Replies: 161
- Views: 7897
Re: Kompany quote
You must have £20 mil probably north as a rough estimate spare knocking around as loose change.fidelcastro wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:16 pmThankfully you changed that job.
VK should do the same. I don't want him to learn by failing any more, thanks all the same.
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany quote
- Replies: 161
- Views: 7897
Re: Kompany quote
According to some on here in the not too recent past he was destined for the dizzy heights managing man city. The sensible 1s called the crap out & said just wait let's see how he does this season first.
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:17 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The objective for the rest of the season
- Replies: 95
- Views: 5642
Re: The objective for the rest of the season
A bit embarrassing I agree but if Burnley are aiming at being a yo yo club then it doesn’t really matter I suppose. That served west brom well for awhile it's been a few years now in the wilderness. You just aren't guaranteed to keep bouncing back I think more than a few people will be in for a sho...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:50 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Leicester
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2267
Re: Leicester
I'd hardly call the loss of Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha "getting away with it" granted they'd be in a far better position if he was still alive for sure. He cared about the club far more than the other members of the family.
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:44 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 9033
Re: Mud analytics
It's possible. But realistically Kompany is a very rich man. He spent multiple seasons on an eight figure salary and he could do that again if his managerial career is successful and he ends up at Man City. Is he going to endanger his ambition in order to get a bit of commission on a player sale? I...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tonight’s Football
- Replies: 180
- Views: 4770
Re: Tonight’s Football
Indeed. It's frightening what we ended up with though at this level anyhow.
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tonight’s Football
- Replies: 180
- Views: 4770
Re: Tonight’s Football
Although not top half palace got a good hiding as well. arsenal are a top team.
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fans turning on each other
- Replies: 66
- Views: 5443
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fans turning on each other
- Replies: 66
- Views: 5443
Re: Fans turning on each other
I'm on about the points accrued since he took over. Isn't it something like 2 wins & a draw 7pts that's over half we've accrued all season & he didn't start the season.
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fans turning on each other
- Replies: 66
- Views: 5443
Re: Fans turning on each other
It makes no odds either way to me we are both going down too far adrift imo.Hapag Lloyd wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:52 pmA few on here would be celebrating, including yourself.
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fans turning on each other
- Replies: 66
- Views: 5443
Re: Fans turning on each other
They have significantly improved performance wise since heckingbottom although the results could have been better. Wilders actually gained more points than Kompany since being reappointed on a game by game comparison.
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fans turning on each other
- Replies: 66
- Views: 5443
Re: Fans turning on each other
It must feel like an almighty consolation to some people to be reassured that we aren't the worst team in the PL heaven forbid how people will react if they get any sort of result tonight against arsenal & in doing so dump as down at the bottom.
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fans turning on each other
- Replies: 66
- Views: 5443
Re: Fans turning on each other
I don't know about turning on each other it might be more productive turning on the players & on another thread you have people applauding the players even after playing poorly & people actually wonder why things are in a mess.
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What must Vigeroux be thinking ??
- Replies: 21
- Views: 2240
Re: What must Vigeroux be thinking ??
Another on the gravy train best filed alongside the rest.
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:55 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The objective for the rest of the season
- Replies: 95
- Views: 5642
Re: The objective for the rest of the season
I suppose I'm placing more focus on it than I should do to be fair - I acknowledge that. That's because every time I come on this messageboard - which is much less than I used to because I'm sick to death of half a dozen posters on here who don't even go to games - I see the same few posters regurg...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Bournemouth
- Replies: 53
- Views: 2563
Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Bournemouth
Yes because some posters when we don’t win or get a decent draw blame the referee or VAR for defeat when clearly the team we keep starting with and substitutes like Jay Rod brought on sometimes in stoppage time Our goal was correctly disallowed for a foul and the VAR check for an early second half ...