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by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury FC?
Replies: 9
Views: 2062

Re: Bury FC?

Guller Bull wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:57 pm
Answering my own question here but just found this.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... e-purchase
Still not sure its not two clubs rather than one now though, Casper. Hopefully Chester will look in he’ll know.
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Derby down
Replies: 52
Views: 3844

Re: Derby down

AlargeClaret wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:54 pm
Why on earth would we want this potato headed wig wearing granny sh@gging ( well ANY sh@gging ) booze addled , thick as :shock: mince, inexperienced scouse simpleton ??
Say what you see :shock: :lol:
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Derby down
Replies: 52
Views: 3844

Re: Derby down

Top Claret wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:17 pm
I would rather have BFS than Rooney
We can afford his wages but the bungs might be a problem.
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: According to the Athletic ....
Replies: 175
Views: 12804

Re: According to the Athletic ....

If you're the type who likes to analyse stats, there's some fascinating comparisons between the two to be found checking FBRef & SofaScore. Mee actually has the better passing stats for everything except long balls, and on heatmaps plays further forwards and wider. He's aruably been the more ball-p...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: According to the Athletic ....
Replies: 175
Views: 12804

Re: According to the Athletic ....

I actually agree that for me the decisive difference is Pieters more than Cork for the reasons you say. Taylor is the better player if you were going off of individual ability ala FIFA, Pieters is infinitely more important to the shape of our team- especially if he has Cornet in front of him. Taylo...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Derby down
Replies: 52
Views: 3844

Re: Derby down

Rooney aside, I’m delighted Derby have been relegated. Shame it’s one season too late. No love for the Derby fans that used to come on here, certainly. Absolutely no love for the way they played the system to breaking point either. No sadness for the relegation at all, other than the players and ma...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Derby down
Replies: 52
Views: 3844

Re: Derby down

Bosscat wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:29 pm
Not disputing what he did with Derby under such constraints ... but come on its Old Potato head and his baggage ... 😂😂😂
I did previously think he was a complete nob, I’ll admit. :lol:
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Derby down
Replies: 52
Views: 3844

Re: Derby down

Does Dyche fancy Derby if Rooney (god forbid) ame to Burnley 🤔 Would have shared you assessment of Rooney in the past, but I think the way Derby went about this season and Rooney’s part in it was highly admirable, Rooney has proved there is a lot more about him than the media perception IMO. Not sa...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: According to the Athletic ....
Replies: 175
Views: 12804

Re: According to the Athletic ....

Perhaps because Cornet at the very least was signed by Pace, so didn't fit? As for Weghorst- I thoroughly believe he was a long term target as said, but he also was not like-for-like for Wood and stylistically is more of a replacement for Jay, so it still required various tactical adjustments. I do...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: According to the Athletic ....
Replies: 175
Views: 12804

Re: According to the Athletic ....

You need to stop repeating this when for years it was reported that Dyche wanted to use the European market and GARLICK didn't, because he didn't trust our scouting ability overseas, and that this was cited as one of the reasons Dyche & Garlick would clash. Really, even I began to wonder why Dyche ...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Derby down
Replies: 52
Views: 3844

Re: Derby down

Rooney to Burnley? Certainly not willing to suggest it will happen, but there have been rumours that he had been unwilling to consider leaving until Derby were relegated. One has to assume even with new owners Rooney will now be beyond Derbies budget, even if he did fancy trying to lead them back u...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: According to the Athletic ....
Replies: 175
Views: 12804

Re: According to the Athletic ....

I think paulatky simply said they saw it as an investment opportunity and didn't stipulate a time frame. Also said Pace was not a football man. He himself states that he has wanted to get involved with football since he fell in love with the game as a student… and has many contacts/friends from tha...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: According to the Athletic ....
Replies: 175
Views: 12804

Re: According to the Athletic ....

It wasn't absolute tosh though. It was an entirely reasonable viewpoint. Why do you think they acquired the club? I have no doubt Alan Pace saw an opportunity to make money LONG TERM, was that the main driving force behind buying Burnley? Possibly, obviously they don’t hope to lose their shirts. BU...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: According to the Athletic ....
Replies: 175
Views: 12804

Re: According to the Athletic ....

You judged my previous comment as “ total tosh” Because it had no reliable source or grounding - I’ve just heard that Meagan Martell was back in the country so she could invest a billion pounds in Burnley football club for Harry’s birthday present and that she wants Brooklyn as manager with David B...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Any players commented on the sacking yet?
Replies: 90
Views: 10024

Re: Any players commented on the sacking yet?

There are many, many apps & sites which let you fake text messages. I'm not sure Dyche is quite that much of a Ternent. In all honesty I wouldn’t be overly surprised given the tiny amount of information (from reliable sources) if it was related to bullying of some kind; not necessarily Dyche, but h...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russia Invades
Replies: 10729
Views: 817111

Re: Russia Invades

OSINTtechnical - looking t the situation today.

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/stat ... uk9ROaedtw
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Name the next manager
Replies: 4376
Views: 380004

Re: Name the next manager

claretandy wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:02 pm
Daniel Farke has been mentioned ...
… and is one I really do not understand. His team plays football, but he spent a decent chunk on Norwich this season… and that went well. Strange to me that anyone would hope for that one.
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: According to the Athletic ....
Replies: 175
Views: 12804

Re: According to the Athletic ....

I would back my judgment against yours any day. Why do you think they bought the club? Because they liked the area and liked Holland’s pies and beni & hot. No they did it to make a financial gain for themselves , albeit without risking much of their own money. Where have I may a judgement? I have m...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Any players commented on the sacking yet?
Replies: 90
Views: 10024

Re: Any players commented on the sacking yet?

Stating that you don’t care about his marriage, because he’s now left Burnley just feels like a pretty narrow outlook, and doesn’t smack of neutrality, that’s all I’m saying. Just the truth… in all honesty will you be checking his marriage is ok on the final day of the season? He was manager he’s n...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
Replies: 1146
Views: 77419

Re: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)

I didn't realise it was an argument - I thought I was putting forward my point of view and explaining why I have concerns about the financial structure of our club and the risks if we get relegated and don't quickly return. We all share you concern. And sorry, you may have misunderstood as a histor...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Any players commented on the sacking yet?
Replies: 90
Views: 10024

Re: Any players commented on the sacking yet?

Whilst sniping at anybody who wishes him well, and ignoring those who don’t. Your neutral position isn’t that Swiss. Not at all the case Dande. I don’t know what I wish him - as for being anti-Dyche I’d hope you’d know me better - I suggest you look at my post history, I have been particularly supp...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: According to the Athletic ....
Replies: 175
Views: 12804

Re: According to the Athletic ....

Well they certainly didn’t invest in Burnley just for the love of it. I think they thought they were getting it cheap and would be able to multiply there investment many times based on other US franchise sports teams. They maybe businessmen but they are not football men. Absolute tosh based on noth...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
Replies: 1146
Views: 77419

Re: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)

I don't need to be careful. I'm happy to repeat that Pace relied upon the club's cash reserves in order to buy the club and the size of those cash reserves occurred because of a lack of player purchases in Garlick's final transfer window. So why do you need to argue the point with someone you don’t...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Any players commented on the sacking yet?
Replies: 90
Views: 10024

Re: Any players commented on the sacking yet?

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:16 pm
Are you for real?

I was 50/50 on Dyche as our manager, shocked at the timing of his sacking mind.

He gave us nearly 10 years service so I will wish him well.
And I will wait to hear officially why such action was taken before wishing him anything.
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russia Invades
Replies: 10729
Views: 817111

Re: Russia Invades

NEXTA: Russia acting like a dog marking its territory, re-establishing Soviet period monuments in Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/151 ... uk9ROaedtw
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
Replies: 1146
Views: 77419

Re: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)

And the difference now is if we go down we do so with significant debt. We made no signings towards the end of Garlick's tenure because Pace needed the cash in the bank to enable the acquisition. I’d be very careful about making assumptions like that, and even more careful about writing them down.
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russia Invades
Replies: 10729
Views: 817111

Re: Russia Invades

Is Russia full of glue sniffers. It's understandable that they can't hear the truth, but you have to be mad to think the West is falling apart, or that Russia is capable of forming an axis with China and India. Speaking of which it's time we got heavy with India, I said 3 weeks ago they can't be al...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
Replies: 1146
Views: 77419

Re: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)

So where don't have the full picture people will form a view based on what we do know. That is the club was taken over using a leverage buyout and the club's substantial cash reserves which has led to significant debt. I believe the debt is serviceable while we retain PL revenues but in the event w...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: According to the Athletic ....
Replies: 175
Views: 12804

Re: According to the Athletic ....

That group of business men saw an opportunity to make, in their eyes, a killing without risking their own money. They assumed they would be able to get additional investors into the club but that will be very difficult to achieve with relegation How were they to ‘make a killing’? How many club owne...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
Replies: 1146
Views: 77419

Re: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)

Where’s the £70m that’s due by the end of June going to come from if we are relegated. Having a £500,000 with a salary of £100,000 is fine but if that salary drops to £30,000 …………. FACT is we don’t know, nor can we do anything to find out? Do we know for example if a major investor has stipulated t...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is there a plan?
Replies: 238
Views: 13651

Re: Is there a plan?

johnnyjones wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:40 pm
I want to believe :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I’d love it… so many on here offering their ‘considered’ opinions of the right and wrongs of it. Taking sides with no information is very foolish.
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
Replies: 1146
Views: 77419

Re: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)

I'm really looking forward to CTs article on Dyche’s time here. It will be a good read not withstanding the sad ending. Whatever the rights and wrongs its been a great journey. Like anyone sensible, Tony I’m sure will be waiting until there is some substance as to why it happened before fastening h...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Any players commented on the sacking yet?
Replies: 90
Views: 10024

Re: Any players commented on the sacking yet?

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:31 pm
Nothing, I hope she was.
… and if it comes out there was a serious breech of Club discipline/loyalty that led to the sacking are you going to continue to gush over our former manager?
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: As much as I enjoy the prem
Replies: 54
Views: 3850

Re: As much as I enjoy the prem

There's so much wrong with the PL right now: refereeing, VAR, diving. Then there's all the bullshit that goes with it I'm not sure it's "prettier" football that fans are after. Perhaps having ambition to finish a little higher than 17th would help. Have to say; I was completely for SD seeing out th...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russia Invades
Replies: 10729
Views: 817111

Re: Russia Invades

Lawrence Freedman - People keep comparing battle around Donbas to Kursk (WW2 Tank battle), it is more likely with Ukraine unwilling to grant Russia the initiative… to be a Battle of Britain type battle (with Phillip’s Obrien input) https://twitter.com/lawdavf/status/1516043633945985035?s=21&t=hc74LJ...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Everton
Replies: 43
Views: 3824

Re: Burnley v Everton

And just how are they safe? I think the logic is because they are too big to go down and have ‘major star’ players. Newcastle has jumped from anti-Dyche to Anti-Pace after he dismissed Dyche… whatever Burnley do is small a tin-pot for some, mainly because they see Burnley as tin-pot and yet they ‘f...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russia Invades
Replies: 10729
Views: 817111

Re: Russia Invades

PHILLIPS-OBrien - Russia projecting their failings onto the West. A new world order with Russia India and China forming the axis of power over the world…

https://twitter.com/phillipspobrien/sta ... uk9ROaedtw
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russia Invades
Replies: 10729
Views: 817111

Re: Russia Invades

NEXTA: Shrine in Poland to the ‘glorious dead’ in Ukraine

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/151 ... uk9ROaedtw
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russia Invades
Replies: 10729
Views: 817111

Re: Russia Invades

Iryna Mativyishyo - In Lviv yesterday when Russian missiles landed - How come Russia can spend $6.5m on a missile they use to blow up a tyre service depot, but leave there own citizens living without toilets ?

https://twitter.com/imatviyishyn/status ... uk9ROaedtw
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russia Invades
Replies: 10729
Views: 817111

Re: Russia Invades

ROB LEE: Ukraine motar bombardment of DNR troops in Donetsk

https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1515 ... uk9ROaedtw
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russia Invades
Replies: 10729
Views: 817111

Re: Russia Invades

Not that They clearly cannot stop Ukraine moving its units along interior lines of communication (far better than the Russian ones), and lobbing cruise missiles at railway yards and stations does not affect that in the slightest (railway repair will be No 1 priority for the Ukrainians) Taking out t...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russia Invades
Replies: 10729
Views: 817111

Re: Russia Invades

Sorry for yet another idiot question but can one presume that Moscow's comments a week back (?) about shifting the focus towards the east were the usual lies or did they indeed leave a reduced force there. I ask this following the bombing of Lviv and Kiev. How far away could these missile-launchers...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Any players commented on the sacking yet?
Replies: 90
Views: 10024

Re: Any players commented on the sacking yet?

I'm not bothered that he has gone on a weekend bender but am a little surprised he hasn't gone home to see the wife and family after 10 years of living away from home. Woans daughter posted on twitter that Dyche was sat in their garden on Friday I think. Let's just hope his commitment to Burnley ha...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: According to the Athletic ....
Replies: 175
Views: 12804

Re: According to the Athletic ....

Have to say the rumours are a but weird. If his position was untenable and the owners were totally right to pot him why not say so? Smacks more like a bust up with Dyche saying something like "you think I've been sat on my arse waiting for you to pot me. I've got irons in the fire if need be" The r...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: According to the Athletic ....
Replies: 175
Views: 12804

Re: According to the Athletic ....

All speculative, anyone drawing firm conclusions at the moment can only be basing them on their own ‘initiative’. There could be many reasons and is likely a combination of them that came to a head late last week. Far more sensible to get behind the team and wait for news to emerge before assigning ...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russia Invades
Replies: 10729
Views: 817111

Re: Russia Invades

REUTERS: Russian bank chief admits it will take two years from this point for Russian economy to recover financial stability pre-war plan, due to sanctions even though many of the effects are yet to really bite.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1515 ... uk9ROaedtw
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russia Invades
Replies: 10729
Views: 817111

Re: Russia Invades

REUTERS: Several killed in Lviv due to missile strikes as Russia intensifies attacks

https://twitter.com/bbcbreaking/status/ ... uk9ROaedtw
by elwaclaret
Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russia Invades
Replies: 10729
Views: 817111

Re: Russia Invades

REUTERS: Ukrainian PM confirms the Russian deadline for Mariupol’s surrender passed without acknowledgment and Mariupol remains contested

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1515 ... PaKEB-wcmQ
by elwaclaret
Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russia Invades
Replies: 10729
Views: 817111

Re: Russia Invades

Kyiv Independent - German Minister suggests there i evidence Russian Forces are deliberately targeting agricultural infrastructure to maximise the long term effect of war on Ukraine, and threatening food stability for the world potentially for years to come. https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/statu...