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by Claretforever
Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VK's Coat yesterday
Replies: 43
Views: 12371

Re: VK's Coat yesterday

It’s the first time I’ve seen the brand and that coat looks quite smart, not going to lie.

I wouldn’t pay £900 for a coat though, that’s ridiculous.
by Claretforever
Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Mood has changed
Replies: 155
Views: 23387

Re: The Mood has changed

CoolClaret wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:02 pm
So why buy them?
Exactly! I understand the model and that the plan is to develop and sell for a large profit, but being relegated doesn’t help with the sale price.
by Claretforever
Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Catering in the Bob Lord
Replies: 56
Views: 7527

Re: Catering in the Bob Lord

Another issue is the menu, or lack of. Don’t get me wrong I generally know what we do because we don’t do much, but where there used to be a menu above the window is now a rolling advertisement. You can see people stood there waiting for it to roll around to a mess, which it never does.
by Claretforever
Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Mood has changed
Replies: 155
Views: 23387

Re: The Mood has changed

I don’t expect us to walk the Championship, and it’ll be interested which players have to be sold, but the squad as it is now should definitely be top 6, and likely top 3.

We’ve got some exciting young players that need a bit of time and experience. They’re not ready for the Premier League yet.
by Claretforever
Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Parallels with the Waddle Season
Replies: 28
Views: 3573

Re: Parallels with the Waddle Season

Prob saying the same thing here; Playing direct can involve passing the ball on the deck (think of a United 2008 or something). Just because we pass it about doesn't make it 'tidy' nor 'pretty' when it's going nowhere, imo. Direct ≠ Launching it. I really thought VK would set us up to be more of a ...
by Claretforever
Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Parallels with the Waddle Season
Replies: 28
Views: 3573

Re: Parallels with the Waddle Season

I don't want it hoofed - far from it. Just get on the front foot; got a man over I want a quick pass played out to him... I don't want the keeper standing on the ball trying to draw someone in then rolling it 8 yard to a centre half that passes back, rinse repeat till the keeper then passes to the ...
by Claretforever
Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Corners
Replies: 50
Views: 8381

Re: Corners

When we get corners we’d be best setting the players up in our half read for a goal kick, and then just putting the ball out of play. It’d save time and reduce the risk of a break away.
by Claretforever
Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Parallels with the Waddle Season
Replies: 28
Views: 3573

Re: Parallels with the Waddle Season

Is it though? It's been bloody awful all year. Ponderous crap. Call me old fashioned but I like a team that can get in the face of the opposition and get the crowd on side. Can't do with this daudling on the ball to 'draw a press' then be too shite to actually beat it. Yes, it’s very tidy football....
by Claretforever
Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:35 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VK’s post match interview
Replies: 60
Views: 11157

Re: VK’s post match interview

Goliath wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:53 pm
Ah yes thats what we want, players ignoring the managers instructions and doing what they want.
In fact its all irrational waffle
Following him to the letter is working I see.
by Claretforever
Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Parallels with the Waddle Season
Replies: 28
Views: 3573

Re: Parallels with the Waddle Season

If you added a Nick Pope, a James Tarkowski and a Joey Barton down the spin of our team we’d be mid table. We have little in the way of physicality, nobody grabbing the game by the scruff of the neck, and no leaders on the pitch. There is nobody picking up dropped heads. Nobody putting a shift in to...
by Claretforever
Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VK’s post match interview
Replies: 60
Views: 11157

Re: VK’s post match interview

I’m getting sick to death now of this stubborn project. He refuses to change and it has ended up with us relegated. Imagine passing the ball about slowly at the back and to the keeper as though you’re at 0-0….when you’re 2-0 down and there’s 10 minutes left. The kids on the pitch have no personality...
by Claretforever
Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tom Lockyer
Replies: 23
Views: 4810

Re: Tom Lockyer

There’s not a chance he continues playing after two of those incidents. He’s 29 and life is more important. I’m sure he’s fulfilled his dream of playing in the Premier League so it’s time he moves into coaching.

I really hope he’s okay.
by Claretforever
Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton fans in home end
Replies: 405
Views: 65576

Re: Everton fans in home end

I saw that an Everton fan on Twitter pointed out the back two rows of block 9 were available for sale only a couple of days ago.
by Claretforever
Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Guy on Social media calling out Academy
Replies: 52
Views: 9783

Re: Guy on Social media calling out Academy

Is the reason Blackburn have brought more through related to their academy being better established, as well as not having serious funds to buy players nowadays? Yes, they have a random year where they spend on one big player now, such as Brereton or Gallagher, but it’s not consistent so they have t...
by Claretforever
Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson
Replies: 25
Views: 5276

Re: Benson

Haven't there always been doubts about Benson's physicality, not just at Burnley? Yes, when he first came. You might remember Watford kicking him early in the game at theirs and he cried off. Kompany then had a number of training sessions where I games the rules were no fouls given against Benson. ...
by Claretforever
Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Koleosho injury
Replies: 112
Views: 20172

Re: Koleosho injury

Pretty sure Branch did his knee at Ewood in that 5-0 game and carried on, but said latterly that all he could do was run in straight lines?
by Claretforever
Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Could Villa do a Leicester ??
Replies: 43
Views: 5311

Re: Could Villa do a Leicester ??

Villa looked the real deal when they beat us a few months ago. I said back then that I wouldn’t be surprised to see them land in the top 4.
by Claretforever
Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is VK learning anything?
Replies: 66
Views: 9012

Re: Is VK learning anything?

He’s making very poor decisions when bringing substitutes into the game, that’s for sure. That seriously must improve. On the plus side the football is good, and this current crop of players would be top 3 in the Championship. Our model says we’d have to sell 3-4 players though, so Koleosho will be ...
by Claretforever
Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Koleosho song
Replies: 45
Views: 5681

Re: Koleosho song

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:23 pm
The 'no one likes us' song makes me cringe. Ending with... 'we are Burnley, super Burnley from the North'. North!?? Not very specific is it.
I’ve long thought ‘from the Turf’ would be better. And I mean 25 years, so I can’t see it changing.
by Claretforever
Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O’Shea
Replies: 90
Views: 12618

Re: O’Shea

His main role yesterday was to make sure McBurnie didn’t win a header. He did that brilliantly, and because we were 2-0 McBurnie was clearly frustrated. He even chased McBurnie down into the corner and got a (unjust in my opinion) booking for it. McBurnie was a fool, but O’Shea’s performance created...
by Claretforever
Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: FA Cup Third Round Draw Thread
Replies: 59
Views: 7187

Re: FA Cup Third Round Draw Thread

dougcollins wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:03 pm
We'd have a chance against Wednesday at home.
Hmm… I’m not convinced. Noisy and full away end would scare our lot.
by Claretforever
Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Attendance tomorrow
Replies: 27
Views: 3350

Re: Attendance tomorrow

Pretty sure attendance is counted on tickets sold, not the number that actually go through the gates It is. I think we had two seasons around 2013-14/2014-15 when it was actual numbers again (individual error rather than club policy change), but since 2003-04 ish it’s been pretty much the tickets s...
by Claretforever
Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: FA Cup Third Round Draw Thread
Replies: 59
Views: 7187

Re: FA Cup Third Round Draw Thread

Any from 45 and below on that list.

Any other side beats us at the moment.
by Claretforever
Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonight’s football
Replies: 59
Views: 3443

Re: Newcastle Utd....robbed

Yeah, the referee has had a mare there. Totally robbed.
by Claretforever
Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Barnes
Replies: 64
Views: 7411

Re: Barnes

I must admit to being in the camp of getting rid of Barnes last season. Totally before his turnaround in form, but despite that turnaround I figured we needed better. If I’d known what our transfer business was going to bring I’d have had him for another season.
by Claretforever
Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Aaron Ramsay
Replies: 35
Views: 3880

Re: Aaron Ramsay

I think there looks to be a really good footballer there. He just happened to be part of the substitutions which upset our rhythm on Saturday, which is why people may have mentioned him, though I haven’t seen anything myself.
by Claretforever
Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The crowd did not help today
Replies: 49
Views: 6107

Re: The crowd did not help today

I thought the atmosphere was good yesterday. I only heard West Ham fans pre-match and from 86 minutes onwards. All you could hear were our fans other than that. Any booing at half time could have been directed at the ref from losing the strange decision not to award us a penalty? Or maybe their numb...
by Claretforever
Sun Nov 26, 2023 7:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Empty seats
Replies: 41
Views: 4349

Re: Empty seats

I noticed the same today. A lot of fans are fed up and finding other things to do. I must admit to wobbling a little when asked if I was going on. I didn’t feel like it at all. That sinking feeling when they equalised knowing full well a winner was coming immediately had me wishing I’d not bothered.
by Claretforever
Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: May aswell stick an R there now
Replies: 99
Views: 7246

Re: May aswell stick an R there now

I’m not really Kompany Out, but it’s hard right now. He’s so determined to play this style, and his recruitment as been shocking really overall. The fact he’s committed the club to almost £100m in the process really has me wondering at what point do the owners pull the trigger? It’s getting embarras...
by Claretforever
Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton docked 10 points
Replies: 258
Views: 24121

Re: Everton docked 10 points

These are the discussion points on tomorrow’s Price of Football podcast with Kieran Maguire. Might be an interesting listen.
by Claretforever
Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sue or not to sue
Replies: 138
Views: 9440

Re: Sue or not to sue

Chester Perry wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:34 pm
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by Claretforever
Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sue or not to sue
Replies: 138
Views: 9440

Re: Sue or not to sue

An interesting Twitter thread by an Evertonian who happens to be a solicitor, giving their thoughts on a compensation claim. Probably one for Chester Perry to share his thoughts on.

https://x.com/levinslaw/status/17259087 ... zJCyLiScQw
by Claretforever
Fri Nov 17, 2023 5:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: THB
Replies: 66
Views: 5487

Re: THB

Dwight McNeil also trained with the England senior squad a few years ago…
by Claretforever
Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Championship away following
Replies: 21
Views: 2114

Re: Championship away following

Interesting actually and I assume there was a similar table last season and I'd have been keen to see where we featured and what our stats were, especially after it finished. These were the final standings last season. Blackburn have so far played most of their long distance away games so will fini...
by Claretforever
Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Saleable Assets
Replies: 80
Views: 6322

Re: Saleable Assets

Trafford - we wouldn’t get £19m so would lose money, and maybe a lot, but we don’t start paying for him until August 2024 in any case, hence why we paid a little more than he’s worth. Koleosho - we’d make money on. Amdouni - we’d make money on. Berge - we’d get our money back. O’Shea - we’d lose mon...
by Claretforever
Thu Nov 02, 2023 6:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Would we beat Blackburn
Replies: 13
Views: 1457

Re: Would we beat Blackburn

I still believe we’d beat Blackburn with this team, even though it’s not good enough for the Premier League.
by Claretforever
Wed Nov 01, 2023 5:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Time to get excited. EFL cup- last 16
Replies: 38
Views: 3523

Re: Time to get excited. EFL cup- last 16

I’m happy for those who are genuinely excited, but I can only see one outcome if I’m being honest with myself. Dyche will be well up for this one regardless of where he stands on cup competitions generally.
by Claretforever
Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Club update following supporter feedback
Replies: 175
Views: 11478

Re: Club update following supporter feedback

Is it still right that whatever safe standing capacity is introduced into the home end it needs to be equal in the away end? If so only 2,000 or so at most in the home end. I believe there are currently plans to have 13,300 rail seats at Anfield with around 10,000 already in place, and there’s no w...
by Claretforever
Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: THB
Replies: 80
Views: 4944

Re: THB

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:00 pm
I think Boden mentioned on that podcast there was a worry about his pace.

I’d have liked to see him back here.
Worried about his pace? O’Shea doesn’t seem to have any at all.
by Claretforever
Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Muric - LOAN?
Replies: 72
Views: 5771

Re: Muric - LOAN?

Can we loan him into the first team? In all seriousness I truly believe Muric would have done better so far, but Trafford played really well against Brentford. Our defence and midfield leaves Trafford totally exposed (59 shots on target so far!!!), and it’s no wonder he’s conceded what he has. It’s ...
by Claretforever
Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brentford v Burnley match thread.
Replies: 876
Views: 53093

Re: Brentford v Burnley match thread.

We don’t look nearly ready for Premier League football. I think last season’s team beats today’s side. How the hell have we spent almost £100m and gone backwards?
by Claretforever
Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New food/drink rules at the Turf
Replies: 353
Views: 32984

Re: New food/drink rules at the Turf

I wonder if this is what we were supposed to be getting last summer?
by Claretforever
Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Al-Dakhil
Replies: 28
Views: 5864

Re: Al-Dakhil

Koleosho has "flu like symptoms"... https://sportwitness.co.uk/burnley-player-set-miss-international-match-illness-rules/ That doesn’t surprise me as flu/“Covid” is all over the place again this past few weeks in the normal population. I can see that being an issue for several of each club’s squads...
by Claretforever
Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Israel
Replies: 41
Views: 3598

Re: Israel

There’ll be a lot of billions of tax payers money changing hands in the coming weeks and months under the title of humanitarian aid etc, so there’ll be quite a few gaining from it I suspect.
by Claretforever
Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I get it……..
Replies: 13
Views: 2178

Re: I get it……..

It’s a strange one; it’s one of the worst grounds to visit as an away fan for facilities and view, and it’s blooming uncomfortable on the right wooden concourse at half time too, but what a historic ground. I actually love going.

Their new ground looks fantastic.
by Claretforever
Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Matt Lowton
Replies: 22
Views: 3300

Re: Matt Lowton

Could be at a stage of his career where he’s not bothered the level he’s playing at, as long as he’s close to his family, you’d imagine they are settled around Manchester area, sure one of Lowts boys is in the junior teams at Burnley, wouldn’t be surprised to see him in and around the training grou...
by Claretforever
Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Matt Lowton
Replies: 22
Views: 3300

Re: Matt Lowton

He’s better than Stockport.
by Claretforever
Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sutton
Replies: 43
Views: 3494

Re: Sutton

Callum Wilson is a handful and they’ll terrorise us with their height and physicality from set pieces. I fear he won’t be far off. The best we can hope for is that our football tires them and we get a few chances…though then we have to get past Nick Pope. I hate feeling negative but there is some re...
by Claretforever
Fri Sep 29, 2023 6:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Scunthorpe United
Replies: 37
Views: 4157

Re: Scunthorpe United

Bonfire Night 1988 was my first visit there, and possibly our first visit to Glanford Park? We took a big following, lost and it took forever to get off the car park behind the ground, but my overriding memory of it was that Burnley fans decided to boot the metal cladding at the back of the terrace,...
by Claretforever
Fri Sep 29, 2023 6:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: MAATSEN
Replies: 37
Views: 4186

Re: MAATSEN

My view, from what we do know and filling the gaps, is that Maatsen did want to join Burnley early in the summer but Chelsea said no. Maatsen then got into the Chelsea team and played quite well, receiving praise from the Manager which probably suggested he was part of the first team plans this seas...