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- by thatdberight
- Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Macclesfield Town
- Replies: 13
- Views: 2883
Quicknick wrote:A 'z' in critising. 'Gotten'. Are you American?
People who live in badly-spelt huoses shouldn't thrwo stnoes.
Anyway, the 'z' is older than the 's' and is a retention in American English rather than an invention. And do you fancy telling Shakespeare he got it wrong with 'gotten'?
- by thatdberight
- Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I hate the delay in Var - JBG goal
- Replies: 37
- Views: 5673
The advantage is meant to be with the penalty taker. It’s a penalty, the clue is in the word penalty. The keeper can dive in any direction he chooses but can’t move off his line until the ball has been struck. He isn’t meant to be given any slight advantage to help him save it. So, maybe he should ...
- by thatdberight
- Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: O/T - Barcelona
- Replies: 13
- Views: 1670
Fundació Joan Miró. Casa Milà aka La Pedrera - particularly at night. Parc Guell. Day trip to Figueras for the Dalí museum. Montserrat as above.
- by thatdberight
- Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brecon by-election
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4375
Stupid is a very generous description of someone who forged documents and tried to pass them off as originals. He clearly knew it was the wrong thing to do as he also tried to deceive his own staff over them. I agree. He broke the law. Brazenly. Deliberately. With a disregard for it that suggests h...
- by thatdberight
- Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brecon by-election
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4375
Imploding Turtle wrote:He forged expenses claims. 'Thief' is a perfectly adequate summation.
Facts, as usual, are passing you by.
- by thatdberight
- Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brecon by-election
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4375
Imploding Turtle wrote:That tells you quite a lot about those 12,000 people.
Perhaps they know that "thief" would be an entirely inaccurate description of him in respect of the offences of which he was found guilty.
- by thatdberight
- Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brecon by-election
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4375
Damo wrote:12,000 people thought a convicted thief was the best option
There was no financial gain to him through his offences as was commented on by the judge in his case.
- by thatdberight
- Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: " Vote Rigging " Sunday Times report & comments ...
- Replies: 159
- Views: 8757
Anyone but the British government at a guess. Meanwhile we can ignore the fact the UK had limited access and still managed to do this, which would suggest a lax security process in the EU... Agreed. By definition, if the chain failed in the UK, the EU should have been more circumspect. But I guess ...
- by thatdberight
- Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: " Vote Rigging " Sunday Times report & comments ...
- Replies: 159
- Views: 8757
I'm pretty sure this was the thread where people were mocking me for not wanting our government to have access to everyone's biometric data due to the chances they'll misuse it. Well... https://i.gyazo.com/f7eda3a7030633807836a0ee3e1f5ef3.png The EU is at the start of the chain of mismanagement. Ar...
- by thatdberight
- Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man on the Moon..
- Replies: 136
- Views: 9822
mentioned the moon landings to my 12 year old granddaughter only this Morning....she's having none of it!!! :D At that age, you're allowed to be like that. Your faculties haven't fully formed and you're instinctively inclined to kick against anything, no matter what, that your elders say. There is ...
- by thatdberight
- Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Anyone know this city?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2705
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- by thatdberight
- Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Speeding Conviction Where Photo Inconclusive
- Replies: 62
- Views: 5585
Had to go on one last week. There had been a speed change on a road I used to drive daily (40 down to 20) so I was six over instead of 4 under as I thought... it is amazing how much you forget when you have been driving so long. While I wouldn’t volunteer I actually found it very useful. Some of it...
- by thatdberight
- Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
Imploding Turtle wrote:You are not the person who decides what does or doesn't work as a joke.
Yes I am.
- by thatdberight
- Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
You said this: "But at least it is a joke - which distinguishes it from Brand's comment." Do you see why when someone reads this and sees that you are distinguishing a joke from what Brand said that someone could think you consider Brand's comment not to be a joke? You literally said that it is dis...
- by thatdberight
- Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
So if you know she wasn't serious then you know that her comment was non-serious. So what's another word for a non-serious comment? I'll give youa hint, the one i'm thinking of is 4 letters and begins with a J. Jerk. I already said, "Brand's joke only works..." Not whether it's funny or not but con...
- by thatdberight
- Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
So you think that Jo Brand is seriously calling for people to throw battery acid at politicians? Seriously? That's your argument? No. But then, if you could read my comment, oh, all of two comments ago, you'd know that. When you foam at the mouth, maybe it gets hard to see through the spittle. I do...
- by thatdberight
- Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
Rileybobs wrote:The comments were clearly not incitement to violence though, in the same way that my comments about Nick Knowles aren't. And that's why the matter has been dropped by the police.
On that at least, we agree. Her comments were clearly not a police matter as things stand.
- by thatdberight
- Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
A joke doesn’t need structure. According to the dictionary (I can’t believe I even need to consult the dictionary for a definition), a joke is ‘a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter’. If I said that someone should chin Nick Knowles, I would be doing this to cause amusement. I wou...
- by thatdberight
- Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
David Baddiel defended Brand by quoting one of her stock gags - the way to a mans hart is through the breast with a bread knife. While this is edgy, it could not be construed as an excitement... had she left it at “some politicians” there would be no great outcry... just Jo Brand looking to regain ...
- by thatdberight
- Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
If I said that the contestants of Love Island should be shot would that not be seen as a joke? How about if i said that someone should chin Nick Knowles? You don’t have to find the idea of those things happening to anybody funny for it to be a joke. No. They're not jokes. They may fit one criterion...
- by thatdberight
- Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
Well firstly Brand didn’t wish death upon anyone as far as I can tell. If you said you hoped I died a slow painful death but didn’t mean it then of course it would be a joke. I’m pretty confident that Brand doesn’t actually want anyone to throw acid on anyone else - so on that basis what she said w...
- by thatdberight
- Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
The joke being that Farage is so despicable that he would be more deserving of battery acid being thrown at him than milkshake. Not sure how or why that needs explaining. It was very poorly, if at all considered and also not very funny. Obviously a joke nonetheless though. OK. You have a different ...
- by thatdberight
- Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
Caballo wrote:I never said it was funny! It was still a joke non the less.
I'll give you a chance as well then. What is the "joke"? I know it will lose its humour in the explanation but please describe the joke.
- by thatdberight
- Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
Oh boy. I love that all he Farage jokes are coming out (ha!) now that he's opposed to people making offensive jokes. Here's one about drowning gay people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3HB77S_mAo&feature=youtu.be" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Of course, no one's saying drowning ...
- by thatdberight
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: War with Iran
- Replies: 143
- Views: 13705
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1139236999464927233 The US are blaming Iran for attacks on 2 tankers in the Gulf of Oman today (they solved that case pretty ******* fast). I'm quite sure they'd blame Iran no matter who actually did it, and it makes no sense for Iran to do it since they know Amer...
- by thatdberight
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
But since you bring it up, i decided to go through the two quotes, your "almost verbatim" version and the real quote, and look for words that appear in both of them, and it doesn't look very good for your "almost verbatim" version I found "it", "to", "unpleasant" and "milkshake". That's it. :lol: A...
- by thatdberight
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
There are literally no two connecting words in your "almost verbatim" presentation of what she said that is actually in what she said. If I was literally going to try to pull someone up for that, I'd literally make sure I knew what "literally" meant, maybe with a dictionary link. Or I'd at least ch...
- by thatdberight
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
You said it was "almost verbatim". There are literally no two connecting words in your "almost verbatim" presentation of what she said that is actually in what she said. You embellished her quote to make it appear more outrageous, probably because the original quote wasn't outrageous enough for you...
- by thatdberight
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
Almost verbatim, you say... Replying to a question about the state of UK politics, she said: Almost Verbatim Quibbling about nothing (I clearly said it wasn't verbatim) rather than disagreeing with the substance. If I'd missed some substantial part of the "joke", I know you'd have pointed it out. W...
- by thatdberight
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jo Brand
- Replies: 209
- Views: 13499
The problem for those supporting the joke is that there is no joke. She, almost verbatim, says, "Farage is unpleasant. People are throwing milkshakes at him. It would be better to throw dangerous substances." I'm sure it's possible to craft a joke about him that's a well-crafted bon mot, even if its...
- by thatdberight
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Angry Britain: Beyond repair?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1011
Imploding Turtle wrote:I want to still be around to enjoy being right.
Of course, the great thing is, even if you're not, you'll still be convinced that you are.
- by thatdberight
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Another murderer released
- Replies: 176
- Views: 10917
He did think the 10 commandments outdated, actually. He reduced them to 2. 1. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength. 2. Love your neighbour as yourself. I think you omitted part of that teaching, "On these two commandm...
- by thatdberight
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
- Replies: 579
- Views: 34445
Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:People who are homophobic, racist, islamophobic and xenophobic. i.e. Boris Johnson.
Is he homophobic (even by accusation)?
Is there anyone who might normally be considered "on the right" who isn't "far right" in your view? I was looking for an example.
- by thatdberight
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
- Replies: 579
- Views: 34445
Context is important. Brand was making a joke as a comedian. Count Dankula was making a joke as the producer of a comedy vehicle. Carl Benjamin was making a statement as a political commentator, he's not a comedian. This is what i don't get about you former free speech warriors. We all thought it w...
- by thatdberight
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
- Replies: 579
- Views: 34445
I’ll defend Jo Brand too. I think her comment was ill-judged but, in the context of a radio programme that is clearly set up to get laughs out of controversial subjects, it shouldn’t be interpreted as inciting violence. It’s sometimes difficult to know when you may be crossing the line in comedy. I...
- by thatdberight
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
- Replies: 579
- Views: 34445
I thought we lived in an era when our elected representatives were subject to unpleasant threats and we had examples of real harm being done to them so it was only right that we all, in whatever context, should be careful not to inflame situations or give succour to the small fringes of violent acti...
- by thatdberight
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
- Replies: 579
- Views: 34445
Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Duh.
Honestly is that the best you can do?
Seriously, where does it stop? Boris Johnson is not usually referred to as "far right" but you see him thus. Where is your dividing line?
- by thatdberight
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
- Replies: 579
- Views: 34445
I'll defend her. She SAID something, she didn't DO something, also she didn't LIE and print it on the side of a bus and drive up and down the country in it. In my opinion there is nothing can be said that is offensive to proponents of the far-right such as Farage, Tommy Yaxley Robertinson, Boris Jo...
- by thatdberight
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:16 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
- Replies: 579
- Views: 34445
"It's just a joke, like on Top Gear" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7CnMQ4L9Pc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I love how politically correct the anti-political correctness brigade get when they think they can be reasonably offended by something. You see, people like me think that ...
- by thatdberight
- Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Public Service Announcement
- Replies: 15
- Views: 1431
This thread is indeed about me. Thank you for contributing to my thread about me. I look forward to your next contribution to this thread about me. Don't be unnecessarily, and not very credibly, modest. They're always all about you. But you would save lots of time to get on with the rest of your li...
- by thatdberight
- Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Public Service Announcement
- Replies: 15
- Views: 1431
Attention workers! The party would like to remind you that if you post your opinions in a thread then you run the risk of being accused of virtue-signalling, or trying to turn the thread into being all about you. Please be alert and aware at all times. And call your parents once in a while. This ha...