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by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Recruiting character
Replies: 87
Views: 3967

Re: Recruiting character

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:05 pm
Don't even bother, Liz ;)
I do wish you would call me Elizabeth , William x
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Recruiting character
Replies: 87
Views: 3967

Re: Recruiting character

DCWat wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:01 pm
Not at all - I just don’t see the point of the reply without any further detail to explain your thinking.

You’re entitled to your view (whatever that may be) but you’re hardly promoting healthy debate on a message board without providing some reasoning.
Give it a rest
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Recruiting character
Replies: 87
Views: 3967

Re: Recruiting character

DCWat wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:52 pm
No, not it’s not.

You simply said “that is not the problem”.

You offered no explanation as to what the problem is, or what your solution might be.
I don't need to say what the problem is in the context of the post I was replying to. You seem to be taking this personally on behalf of the poster
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Recruiting character
Replies: 87
Views: 3967

Re: Recruiting character

DCWat wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:43 pm
At least add some reasoning behind your dismissive reply.
It's very clear what I'm saying
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Recruiting character
Replies: 87
Views: 3967

Re: Recruiting character

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:07 am
Agree - no connect at all now. The 'character' philosophy which served us so well has gone now and those players still here are hardly involved in games.
Nor should they be. That is not the problem
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wilson Odobert
Replies: 93
Views: 9765

Re: Wilson Odobert

I’m really hoping we didn’t have any relegation clauses with them. I’m pretty sure we wouldn’t have done. I think the only two players who had them were Weghorst and Cornet - they were both established players at European clubs so I’m hoping with younger players, they didn’t have the same expectati...
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Last nights linesman in the Beehole end half
Replies: 26
Views: 2450

Re: Last nights linesman in the Beehole end half

Darthlaw wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:18 pm
VAR means linesmen are pretty much redundant for offside now as they know VAR will make the call for them.

Similarly the ref left the call for Luton’s goal t be made elsewhere.
That was not the case
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We’re as good as down, Kompany is clueless, we have gone backwards
Replies: 154
Views: 7551

Re: We’re as good as down, Kompany is clueless, we have gone backwards

Why will this season stand us in good stead? We all know that whatever division we’re in, it’ll be a complete squad overhaul. Then we’re back to square 1. I’m quickly reaching a point where I just can’t be arsed anymore. I dislike the squad overhaul approach also but would be happy at a good number...
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We’re as good as down, Kompany is clueless, we have gone backwards
Replies: 154
Views: 7551

Re: We’re as good as down, Kompany is clueless, we have gone backwards

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:27 pm
Trouble is though, he's NOT learning.
He is though as our performances prove over the last 2-3 months.
It is unfair to put a manager in his first PL season under the microscope as much as some are doing
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Tresor
Replies: 184
Views: 10346

Re: Mike Tresor

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:42 pm
He is a good player it just doesn't work for him here
He is not good enough for the PL when we need him to be so. A signing that hasn't worked out.
I'm sure Kompany and the club are doing everything to make him feel at home but it isn't making a difference
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wilson Odobert
Replies: 93
Views: 9765

Re: Wilson Odobert

Just get him on the ball! He's playing at his right level now and we'll do well to keep if we are relegated. If it turns out we don't keep him it's going to be a case of how much we get. An awful lot hopefully if it goes that way.
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 12:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We’re as good as down, Kompany is clueless, we have gone backwards
Replies: 154
Views: 7551

Re: We’re as good as down, Kompany is clueless, we have gone backwards

While we are all disappointed at what's happened this season there is still the nucleus of a good team next season if we are in the Championship. Even players falling short in the PL like Ramsey will be a lot more effective at that level. I think Kompany can persuade them to stay. If we can get mone...
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 12:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We’re as good as down, Kompany is clueless, we have gone backwards
Replies: 154
Views: 7551

Re: We’re as good as down, Kompany is clueless, we have gone backwards

Just to add - I still think (relegation or not) getting rid of Kompany would be the wrong option. Surely we have no choice but to stick with him as we've all bought into this journey and to stop it now would leave us in no man's land. There's going to be a big job at the end of this season sorting ...
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 11:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Tresor
Replies: 184
Views: 10346

Re: Mike Tresor

When Tresor and Larsen came on I didn't feel right but thought well there's only a short time to hold out so it shouldn't matter too much.
On reflection with their injury time equaliser and Tresor's woeful short cameo I now know why I had that uneasy feeling.
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Happy Clappers.
Replies: 43
Views: 2512

Re: Happy Clappers.

Hang on a minute! We are 4 points from Safety.loads of games left and we are 100% down..I can't get my head around that.Can you explain 🤔 I know what you are saying but let's be honest with ourselves. There are too many things wrong with the team both individually and collectively. Whatever was the...
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Amdouni
Replies: 93
Views: 3722

Re: Amdouni

He was the problem tonight in the second half when we were in transition and needing to keep possession. Not for the first time this season.
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TRAFFORD
Replies: 808
Views: 30867

Re: TRAFFORD

Trafford had his best game last night in dominating inside and outside his box. He should have been protected by the officials on the goal.
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Recruiting character
Replies: 87
Views: 3967

Re: Recruiting character

I'm not sure we are lacking in character , more quality. The amount of times we lost the ball in transition was clear to see last night. The biggest culprit again is Amdouni who continually tries to be flashy when the ball comes to him, which it does regularly. These silly nutmegs and sharp turns he...
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Scrap VAR
Replies: 84
Views: 3732

Re: Scrap VAR

Most times that goal would have been disallowed. Disappointing thing is that it was against Luton who we badly needed the 3 points against. In the Championship the goal would have stood as there is no VAR. It is suppose to change clear and obvious errors by the match referee but it is not fit for pu...
by Elizabeth
Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Luton
Replies: 469
Views: 16868

Re: Burnley v Luton

I'm not sure who these key players are based on results this season
by Elizabeth
Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Luton
Replies: 469
Views: 16868

Re: Burnley v Luton

Playing Luton at home. Regardless of the side we've put out I don't think there's anything else needs saying.
There are still fans optimistic we are staying up, hope that is still the case after the game.
Match watch: No silly goals conceded; No bad misses.

And please, no worldies scored against us
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 06, 2024 6:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Foster
Replies: 21
Views: 4424

Re: Foster

burnley007 wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:38 pm
Otherwise we might stay up??
I haven't given up hope , why should I with half a season to go.
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Foster
Replies: 21
Views: 4424

Re: Foster

It's fingers and toes crossed. Without him for any length of time will speed up relegation.
by Elizabeth
Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Amdouni
Replies: 133
Views: 17184

Re: Amdouni

A big disappointment. No composure when needed. How much longer do we have to wait for him to show he is up to the PL?
I would sum him up as ' Flatters to Deceive'
by Elizabeth
Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spurs v Burnley match thread
Replies: 841
Views: 63964

Re: Spurs v Burnley match thread

Looking forward to see how that line up does.
Good chance to see if Cullen, Ramsay and Zoroury play well enough to still be considered a key part of our survival bid.
by Elizabeth
Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: FA Cup 3rd Round
Replies: 69
Views: 5675

Re: FA Cup 3rd Round

They've got to stop sending the ref to the screen. Take responsibility themselves, they have all the angles and stills. I feel it puts too much pressure on the refs. If you remember bill they didn't use the screen until there was a lot of criticism for not sending the ref to it. Now it's gone too f...
by Elizabeth
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Where did it all go wrong?
Replies: 88
Views: 5345

Re: Where did it all go wrong?

It will take an amazing run now and if it happens it’s going to be really special.
by Elizabeth
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Where did it all go wrong?
Replies: 88
Views: 5345

Re: Where did it all go wrong?

Wokingclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:15 pm
Of course, but we had gone too young. You can't do that and survive in this league.
That’s usually the case and I’m only avoiding that line of thought because I’m liking the turnaround in performances and have decided to believe Kompany can pull this off
by Elizabeth
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany needs to stay
Replies: 103
Views: 6256

Re: Kompany needs to stay

Just watch the first goal again Elizabeth. Note where Watkins picks up the ball, note how he isn't shepherded anywhere. Think how Tarkowski or Mee would have dealt with him. It isn't that they were light years better than our current defenders (though they are better) it's that they would have been...
by Elizabeth
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany needs to stay
Replies: 103
Views: 6256

Re: Kompany needs to stay

His job should be 100% secure, if he stays, he WILL get us up again next year, these boys just need to be bed in and have a season moulding against lesser teams. A year later and loads of these young un's will be ready to make a mark. :!: Couldn’t agree more. What a waste of time it would be if he ...
by Elizabeth
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany needs to stay
Replies: 103
Views: 6256

Re: Kompany needs to stay

Rowls wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:06 pm
:roll:
What is the silly emoji all about Rowls ? Lost your ability to express yourself ?
by Elizabeth
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Where did it all go wrong?
Replies: 88
Views: 5345

Re: Where did it all go wrong?

Wokingclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:10 pm
Yes and no, the season started in August, but the signings we were making was too young for this league
Nobody knew how the signings would pan out
by Elizabeth
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Where did it all go wrong?
Replies: 88
Views: 5345

Re: Where did it all go wrong?

Wokingclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:01 pm
I got in August
What before the season started?
by Elizabeth
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany needs to stay
Replies: 103
Views: 6256

Re: Kompany needs to stay

We need to change tact defensively. Whether that's Kompany himself or whether it's Mike Jackson - something needs to change. We've been undone by key refereeing decisions today but mark this well: one of the only things we've done consistently this season is defend so badly it is beyond comprehensi...
by Elizabeth
Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany needs to stay
Replies: 103
Views: 6256

Re: Kompany needs to stay

I don't know. The original poster implied they were all or mostly staying and I wanted to check to see where they got the info from. Last I checked, most clubs who go down lose players. I’ve watched Sky Sports News all night and I don’t know when they are going to declare the breaking news that we ...
by Elizabeth
Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Where did it all go wrong?
Replies: 88
Views: 5345

Re: Where did it all go wrong?

Wokingclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:50 pm
I get it, toooo young, not good enough at the mo, 2 years time etc............
You want it now ok, don’t we all. Some get it, you don’t.
by Elizabeth
Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Where did it all go wrong?
Replies: 88
Views: 5345

Re: Where did it all go wrong?

Kilson810 wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:51 pm
The plan was to have 11 points after 20 games?
It’s easier to be smart than wise .
by Elizabeth
Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany needs to stay
Replies: 103
Views: 6256

Re: Kompany needs to stay

Kilson810 wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:48 pm
Are they all staying then? (The players that is)
Who do you know that’s going ?
by Elizabeth
Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Where did it all go wrong?
Replies: 88
Views: 5345

Re: Where did it all go wrong?

It’s not gone wrong , you just don’t get it
by Elizabeth
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Replies: 750
Views: 38783

Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

Kilson810 wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:22 pm
Berge has downed tools
No , he’s simply not sharp enough against the top sides as shown every time we play one. Otherwise he’s one of our better players
by Elizabeth
Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 11 points after 19 games
Replies: 63
Views: 3745

Re: 11 points after 19 games

We concede on average 2 a game until that problem is addressed and we start to keep clean sheets more regularly there isn’t much chance of staying up. Of the 6 games played in December we have kept 2 clean sheets and only conceded 1 goal in two other games. The most we have conceded in a game is 2 ...
by Elizabeth
Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who are we catching?
Replies: 108
Views: 7213

Re: Who are we catching?

Applause for that Crosspool
by Elizabeth
Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who are we catching?
Replies: 108
Views: 7213

Re: Who are we catching?

Cooclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:32 pm
Nor have I against United, Aston Villa, Arsenal and so on…

Christ on a bike
Sorry I didn’t see them in the table you kindly provided in your OP.
by Elizabeth
Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 19 games in, 19 games to go...
Replies: 93
Views: 4442

Re: 19 games in, 19 games to go...

I’d love to win the FA Cup !!!!!
by Elizabeth
Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 19 games in, 19 games to go...
Replies: 93
Views: 4442

Re: 19 games in, 19 games to go...

As always, surviving, and maybe the odd surprise like Europa League, but without throwing too much money at it. That's always my biggest fear in that we get too confident, spend too much, get relegated but don't return for MANY years. There’s been some talk about the merits of speculation tonight ....
by Elizabeth
Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who are we catching?
Replies: 108
Views: 7213

Re: Who are we catching?

Palace would normally have the magic feet ( both on the ground and in the air) to get them points when they’ve looked like getting drawn down in past seasons.
His absence may be the difference this season
by Elizabeth
Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 19 games in, 19 games to go...
Replies: 93
Views: 4442

Re: 19 games in, 19 games to go...

What do you realistically think is the maximum we can achieve? Short term ambition - avoid relegation this season Mid term ambition - top half in Season 2-3 Premier League Long term ambition - Europe in Season 5+ Premier League If my short term goal isn’t achieved then timescales would need to be r...
by Elizabeth
Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Martinez
Replies: 6
Views: 1306

Re: Martinez

If Rashford hadn't slowed down at the last moment he would have touched the ball and Martinez would have been sent off. Rashford thought 'I'm having none of that'
by Elizabeth
Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who are we catching?
Replies: 108
Views: 7213

Re: Who are we catching?

I'm assuming you think we can catch Bournemouth and Chelsea as you haven't put a red cross against their name.
by Elizabeth
Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 19 games in, 19 games to go...
Replies: 93
Views: 4442

Re: 19 games in, 19 games to go...

There we go, that's all I wanted Thanks for your opinion and input I know you are passionate about the club and have lived and breathed every moment of this season more than most. I've also recognised that your opinions are always honest and that is not a characteristic I could describe of some pos...