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- Tue May 21, 2019 11:51 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9977
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
I'm less convinced. This season for instance they won the Carabao Cup on penalties, the league by one point and they didn't even make the finals of the champions league. That's not really an all-conquering team. These things tend to come in waves and there are enough well-funded english clubs that ...
- Mon May 20, 2019 8:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9977
- Views: 1012812
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Of course, for some reason I had Coventry City on my mind.
Have we debated Derby on this thread previously, Chester?
Have we debated Derby on this thread previously, Chester?
- Mon May 20, 2019 7:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9977
- Views: 1012812
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
He was using it as a test of a hypothesis that fans (of his club at least) want stability and security of existence over the risk/reward scenario - don't think one fan voted for the risk/reward, though not surprising given the history of the club, he acknowledges that at bigger clubs the mentality ...
- Mon May 20, 2019 6:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9977
- Views: 1012812
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
@AndyhHolt has another go at "fit and proper" following yesterday's fall out - he is definitely wanting to create a something solid he can take to the EFL here. https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/1130367299490336768" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; he has also brought up the topical...
- Sun May 19, 2019 8:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Help needed: England v Scotland schoolboys game
- Replies: 40
- Views: 3465
Re: Help needed: England v Scotland schoolboys game
Yep - tickets via primary school. I was in the enclosure in front of you. No idea what score or the exact year. It was 1969 and Scotland won 2-0. Must have been early 1969 as the very last game for the old Brunshaw Road stand was against Sunderland on 23rd April 1969. We then suffered for almost fi...
- Sun May 19, 2019 5:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lancashire League ... World XI
- Replies: 70
- Views: 7217
Re: Lancashire League ... World XI
Des Sparks (South Africa), Lowerhouse pro '69-'71.
He worked at Main Gas Padiham during his time here. Is Des still with us?
He worked at Main Gas Padiham during his time here. Is Des still with us?
- Sat May 18, 2019 11:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New home kit
- Replies: 258
- Views: 33792
Re: New home kit
Ah I get you, but every decision in football today is commercially led isn't it? And maximising revenue is the name of the game. The big bucks, realistically, only roll in for a while for a club like Burnley, and then life at a championship level can be expensive and testing. I get why they do it, ...
- Sat May 18, 2019 10:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New home kit
- Replies: 258
- Views: 33792
Re: New home kit
I take your point, but Oak Furniture Land were close on £3m a number of seasons ago. If all we're looking at is an additional £1.5m or so then a more suitable name might be appropriate? Just can't see Jimmy Mc ever running out with Love Bet emblazoned on his shirt, or Bob Lord even allowing it to ha...
- Sat May 18, 2019 10:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New home kit
- Replies: 258
- Views: 33792
Re: New home kit
Nothing's matching the Asian Bookies Royboy, other than Emirati money - watch the massive Spanish teams next year for further proof. Ah, ok. If you can't fix it nobody can. :) In all seriousness though, this latest deal can only represent say £5m within an overall Commercial activity of £7.5m, or l...
- Sat May 18, 2019 10:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New home kit
- Replies: 258
- Views: 33792
Re: New home kit
Surely Paddy Power can match this Love Bet outfit, Dan?dandeclaret wrote:Good to see the club getting the best deal they can.
Love the idea of Rolls Royce becoming sponsors, because they're like Burnley. When I think Rolls Royce, I instantly think of a working class, gritty town... and who wouldn't
- Sat May 18, 2019 10:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9977
- Views: 1012812
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
I think this might explain it Roy - petty stuff from the usually very slick City/Abu Dhabi operation https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/man-city-accused-of-cheeky-marketing-ploy-with-shirt-sponsor-in-fa-cup-final-232167" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; There were rumours of the 2 state owned...
- Sat May 18, 2019 9:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Willie Irvine in hospital after fall
- Replies: 72
- Views: 9445
Re: Willie Irvine in hospital after fall
Great to hear that Willie is responding well after this week's operation.
- Sat May 18, 2019 9:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Scott Arfield
- Replies: 15
- Views: 3181
Re: Scott Arfield
The new freedom to his play that Gerrard has allowed means Scotty is finding more offensive positions and hence scoring far more goals.
- Sat May 18, 2019 9:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9977
- Views: 1012812
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
So Man City have another trophy, have an unprecedented domestic treble, how will time look back on this period of unprecedented success https://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1129808292870598657" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and this is what one city fan at Wembley has to say whe...
- Sat May 18, 2019 8:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New home kit
- Replies: 258
- Views: 33792
Re: New home kit
Interesting. How do we fare on this front compared to teams like Watford & Palace? Watford was less than ours but Palace was £3.1m. I just don't understand why we restrict our sales to the club shop. Perhaps someone can offer an explanation? Global exposure of our football and yet one outlet only f...
- Sat May 18, 2019 8:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New home kit
- Replies: 258
- Views: 33792
Re: New home kit
We sold close to 30,000 in 2017/18, and it’s usually around 10,000 when we’re in the Championship. And yet the total Retail sales for '17/'18 was a mere £1.9m. Surely there must be scope to improve on that figure as a PL club with a little outside of the box thinking. Why are we so against selling ...
- Thu May 16, 2019 11:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New home kit
- Replies: 258
- Views: 33792
Re: New home kit
I’m not going to say, I don’t think it’s my place to be banding around figures. It’s not many Michael Duff’s, that’s for sure! It’s an absolutely pitiful figure when you consider what we currently generate annually. Are you seriously suggesting you know the amount agreed with an individual advertis...
- Thu May 16, 2019 12:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9977
- Views: 1012812
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Burnley drop 5 places to 32nd in Brand Finances Football world top 50 https://brandfinance.com/images/upload/football_50_free_1.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Napoli, Wolves, Lyon, Ajax and Watford are those who have overtaken us Burnley's brand value has dropped by 15% ?..........
- Thu May 16, 2019 10:27 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9977
- Views: 1012812
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Absolutely crucial to Derby that they achieve promotion, as emphasised by the levels of celebration on the pitch last night by owner Mel Morris. Of course we also had a period of 7 seasons when the Club did not own Turf Moor from 2006 to 2013 and it was not the most comfortable of times for everyone...
- Tue May 14, 2019 4:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bolton
- Replies: 1317
- Views: 154835
Re: Bolton
Martin Ziegler points to the issue many are wanting to see - the accounts and how much Ken took out of the club in 2017/18 (never mind this year https://twitter.com/martynziegler/status/1128015009655734272" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; A couple of observations :- The £525,000 that ...
- Mon May 13, 2019 5:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9977
- Views: 1012812
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Nick Harris @sportingintel shows the Premier League earnings this season - big drop for us and Liverpool earn more than City https://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1127658204245188608" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Big drop indeed, £15m from the £119m of the previous season. Likel...
- Sat May 11, 2019 11:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949
- Replies: 25
- Views: 2653
Re: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949
He says that fans were talking about that goal for a few years afterwards. No TV coverage in those days but depending which game it was there were between 31-37,000 who witnessed it. It seems that Beckham might not have invented the halfway line goal after all? I wonder if a match report exists in ...
- Sat May 11, 2019 10:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949
- Replies: 25
- Views: 2653
Re: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949
Before my time but my dad used to talk about him affectionately and he didn't really like small players. He was a phenomenal goalscorer at Dundee United before we signed him. He scored 36 in 60 league games for us. Including 25 from 34 games in the 1955/56 season. In fact he was our first player to...
- Sat May 11, 2019 7:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949
- Replies: 25
- Views: 2653
Re: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949
Wonderful that people like your Grandad is able to recall games from the 1940's, just after WW2 was a special time for us with a promotion to Division One and of course the FA Cup Final in 1947. Strange circumstances surrounded the time of Andrew McLaren at Burnley. Manager Frank Hill brought him to...
- Fri May 10, 2019 10:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bolton
- Replies: 1317
- Views: 154835
Re: Bolton
Seems like the next episode in the comedy capers at Bolton is taking shape. Shandong Ludeng, a Chinese power company, are considering a second takeover bid which will include Sam Allardyce returning to the dug-out alongside former Bolton sports scientist Mark Taylor. Apparently they are unfazed by t...
- Fri May 10, 2019 4:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9977
- Views: 1012812
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
In post #1018 we saw the news on Attendances in the English game at almost unprecedented levels, but just how do they stand-up against other countries. The Football Observatory have been thoughtful enough to do the research for us - No surprise that Germany is out in front for it's top 2 leagues, b...
- Thu May 09, 2019 5:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9977
- Views: 1012812
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Spurs have set the benchmark in many ways with their new ground, but cost appears to be a very significant one - projected at around £500m when started the final bill is likely to be £1.3bn - this has understandably got Chelsea (and more especially Roman Abramovich, who is now based in Israel follo...
- Wed May 08, 2019 6:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Willie Irvine in hospital after fall
- Replies: 72
- Views: 9445
Re: Willie Irvine in hospital after fall
And there is the game, mel, linked in post #29.
- Tue May 07, 2019 11:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bolton
- Replies: 1317
- Views: 154835
Re: Bolton
So, now the likely scenario is Mike James with the Football Ventures set-up to take control probably after administration. James is the second largest creditor as it stands with a loan of £6.5m which was secured against the Club hotel. The likelihood is now that loan will not be repaid and turned in...
- Mon May 06, 2019 4:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Willie Irvine in hospital after fall
- Replies: 72
- Views: 9445
Re: Willie Irvine in hospital after fall
Exchanged emails today with a friend of mine on the subject of Willie and particularly of his goalscoring exploits in the mid-sixties. The stats are truly remarkable culminating in that incredible '65/'66 season when he scored a total of 37 goals whilst still only 22 years old. My friend ended by as...
- Mon May 06, 2019 1:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: McNeil valued at £28.6M
- Replies: 18
- Views: 3834
Re: McNeil valued at £28.6M
He's worth what another club is prepared to pay for him, and as of this moment, at least one of the big six clubs would meet the £28.6m valuation.Steve1956 wrote:No way is he worth £28.6 million .....yet.
- Mon May 06, 2019 12:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: McNeil valued at £28.6M
- Replies: 18
- Views: 3834
Re: McNeil valued at £28.6M
With the likes of Sessegnon at £43.5m and Rice at £64.2m, I'd be taking most of those valuations with a pinch of salt.
Nevertheless Dwight is already a very valuable asset on our books and let's hope we can keep him a little longer as his value can only increase in seasons to come.
Nevertheless Dwight is already a very valuable asset on our books and let's hope we can keep him a little longer as his value can only increase in seasons to come.
- Mon May 06, 2019 11:33 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Question for CT.
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1642
Re: Question for CT.
Ah,right. Forget the whole thing then.ClaretTony wrote:Neither, it was a joke idea that came from a Channel 4 programme. Was of its time. Some of them included Teasdale being called a liar by shareholders, the state of the Longside bogs etc. etc.
- Mon May 06, 2019 10:35 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Question for CT.
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1642
Re: Question for CT.
Would certainly be very interesting to have a crack at that, although it might be somewhat subjective and in some cases a matter of opinion. For instance, I think I'd start a couple of years before the 1914 FA Cup win when John Haworth was appointed as team manager. In my opinion he was up there in ...
- Sun May 05, 2019 11:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Question for CT.
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1642
Re: Question for CT.
Good question Trevor........but not being familiar with the article to which you refer.......Just to clarify, is this the 100 greatest moments in our entire history in some kind of order, or the 100 greatest moments since we began watching the Clarets?
Either way, it's a tough one to answer.
Either way, it's a tough one to answer.
- Sun May 05, 2019 11:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2019 World Snooker Championship
- Replies: 84
- Views: 5367
Re: 2019 World Snooker Championship
8 frames tomorrow afternoon and he needs 6 of them. Bet the people who have tickets for tomorrow evening will be a bit miffed. The thing is.....with all the so-called dignatories not planned to attend until the final session for presentations etc. and all the fancy tickets sold, can the ruling body...
- Sun May 05, 2019 10:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2019 World Snooker Championship
- Replies: 84
- Views: 5367
Re: 2019 World Snooker Championship
Make that eight.
Remarkable snooker.
Remarkable snooker.
- Sun May 05, 2019 10:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2019 World Snooker Championship
- Replies: 84
- Views: 5367
Re: 2019 World Snooker Championship
Trump playing like a man possessed, just won 7 frames on the bounce.
Shades of Willie Irvine scoring 10 goals in 7 successive games.
Shades of Willie Irvine scoring 10 goals in 7 successive games.
- Sat May 04, 2019 10:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Willie Irvine in hospital after fall
- Replies: 72
- Views: 9445
Re: Willie Irvine in hospital after fall
For people that didn't see Willie play, it's difficult to explain just how natural he was in front of goal, in the way that an Ian Rush or Alan Shearer would always be in the right place at the right time. Willie was exceptional at that and always found that extra yard in the box to conjure up a sco...
- Sat May 04, 2019 10:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Come on Newcastle
- Replies: 71
- Views: 3393
Re: Come on Newcastle
Newcastle played their part tonight in a pulsating game of football. So much quality in their team and yet, depending on results next weekend, we can finish above them in the table. A tremendous achievement that would be for us.
- Sat May 04, 2019 7:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Willie Irvine in hospital after fall
- Replies: 72
- Views: 9445
Re: Willie Irvine in hospital after fall
Thank you for all your kind posts. My dad is currently asleep but I'll ensure that everything is passed on. I can confirm that he's making progress on a long road to recovery. Please pass on all our good wishes to your Dad and keep reminding him of all the great goals he scored for us. Including th...
- Sat May 04, 2019 5:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Willie Irvine in hospital after fall
- Replies: 72
- Views: 9445
Re: Willie Irvine in hospital after fall
Very sad news. All the best Willie for a full and complete recovery.
We've had some great goalscorers at Burnley in our history but Irvine's 97 goals in 148 games is up there with the very best.
We've had some great goalscorers at Burnley in our history but Irvine's 97 goals in 148 games is up there with the very best.
- Thu May 02, 2019 11:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bolton
- Replies: 1317
- Views: 154835
Re: Bolton
sounds like Eddie was Anderson's first point of call whenever things got tigh Without question that was always the case. My information as of tonight is that literally no-one outside of the Club was aware of the outstanding debt of £41.6m until lunchtime today, and that includes Bassini. So whilst ...
- Thu May 02, 2019 11:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bolton
- Replies: 1317
- Views: 154835
Re: Bolton
Indeed.Chester Perry wrote:ouch
But the Davies family estate is clearly owed a further £23m, making them still the club's highest creditor.
- Thu May 02, 2019 11:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bolton
- Replies: 1317
- Views: 154835
Re: Bolton
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/bolton-wanderers/12014502/Bolton-Wanderers-confirm-Eddie-Davies-will-gift-club-185m-in-effort-to-speed-up-sale-of-Championship-side.html £170m + £15m when they return to the PL Should say that Moonshift is the Davis family vehicle that has been putti...
- Wed May 01, 2019 11:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What era did you grow up in...
- Replies: 50
- Views: 3602
Re: What era did you grow up in...
Maybe.......but it won't be pretty.cricketfieldclarets wrote:We will do it all in the next 10 under dyche
- Wed May 01, 2019 11:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What era did you grow up in...
- Replies: 50
- Views: 3602
Re: What era did you grow up in...
Just imagine being 110 years old, watching us win the FA Cup in 1914 and then the League Championship in 1921.cricketfieldclarets wrote:So you grew up in WW1?
And then all our great sides since then.
- Wed May 01, 2019 11:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What era did you grow up in...
- Replies: 50
- Views: 3602
Re: What era did you grow up in...
Purely from a football perspective, I know it's difficult to compare our team from different eras, but......... 2015/16 side was functional and workmanlike. 2013/14 side with Danny Ings was good to watch. 1973/74 side was brilliant with so many talented players. 1961/62 side was simply the best, blo...
- Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bramall Lane
- Replies: 50
- Views: 7184
Re: Bramall Lane
Mick Docherty was stretchered off if I remember rightly He was Joey, first game of the season and Docherty didn't play again for over a year. Uwe Noble took over the No.2 shirt and what a fabulous side that became as we finished 6th first time back in the top flight. Stevenson, Noble, Newton, Dobso...
- Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bramall Lane
- Replies: 50
- Views: 7184
Re: Bramall Lane
I was there in 74 , remember there only being 3 sides It seemed like half of Burnley was there that day, with our fans on all three sides of the ground. First game back in Division One and we won 2-0 with Doug Collins scoring a cracker. Also recall we played in a very unusual away kit, not sure we ...