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- Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Chris Wilder
- Replies: 50
- Views: 4287
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Benson
- Replies: 53
- Views: 4634
Re: Benson
OR: extended in preparation for the Championship next year. Bruun Larsenn and Tresor can go but Benny, Anass, Luca and Wilf would be a nightmare for Championship FBs. Maybe… seems very extravagant to be paying a seasons wages when there will be other and fresher options in the market that are poten...
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Chris Wilder
- Replies: 50
- Views: 4287
Re: Chris Wilder
Can't say I like Wilder and his narrow-eyed Tyke hard-man act very much. He made an absolute fool of himself with the sandwich incident and the Guardian football cartoonist David Squires made hay !.... https://www.theguardian.com/football/picture/2024/feb/06/david-squires-on-chris-wilder-the-other-...
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Benson
- Replies: 53
- Views: 4634
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Chris Wilder
- Replies: 50
- Views: 4287
Re: Chris Wilder
If a manager burst into my office, being pretty obnoxious and ranting, I'm going to carry on eating my sandwich, and I wouldn't stop my assistant doing either. Bearing in mind they've probably had no real proper sustenance for hours, including a good while before the game. We don't know the exact d...
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Chris Wilder
- Replies: 50
- Views: 4287
Re: Chris Wilder
The conversation was in the referee's office wasn't it? Going into the ref's office, most likely totally unannounced, at the end of a physically exerting game for both players and officials, is nothing like a planned business meeting with a supplier. If the manager of another company comes into a c...
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Benson
- Replies: 53
- Views: 4634
Re: Benson
What I do not understand is if Benson is not the level required why the hell did we extend his contract in the summer… makes no sense.
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:45 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3450
Re: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
That’s just deflecting blame elsewhere though, shame VK isn’t given the same pass. VK signed the good ones, Pace signed the bad ones. Not sure you can make that comparison. The whole ethos of Dyche’s final flurry of signings were very different from his previous model. Not calling Kompany but the i...
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:39 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Rosenior comment last night on Hull performance
- Replies: 33
- Views: 3097
Re: Rosenior comment last night on Hull performance
Hull won last night at Southampton and Liaim Rosenior said of the performance - "People might say it's a great performance tactically but it's not tactics, it's an appetite to run and fight, and a bravery to play." I couldn't help think we could do with a bit of that. Proving to be a decent manager...
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:36 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3450
Re: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
The love and unity had probably gone because he spent £40m in his final season and we won 1 game from August until February. This season has been dreadful but imagine if we only had 1 win on the board at this stage. I have no idea if SD spent the money, but even at the time they seemed very unlike ...
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:28 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Chris Wilder
- Replies: 50
- Views: 4287
Re: Chris Wilder
Re the sandwich comment… I totally agree with Wilder. How long does it take to meet the manager… would you take a sandwich to a business meeting with a client or supplier and start eating while discussing projects (outside of a business lunch). It is completely unprofessional and disrespectful, he c...
- Tue Feb 20, 2024 1:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3450
Re: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
Just to counteract, I was ready to for him to go. He did amazing things for the club, should probably have a statue at the ground, but I think I’d had enough towards the end of his tenure, both on and off the pitch. I think the players had too. Quite agree. Whoever was to blame the breakdown of his...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9969
- Views: 1008276
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Interesting article in The New York Times - Is Sheffield the true home/birthplace of codified football and the game we know and love. Incidentally the Prof Wilson mentioned is Rob Wilson, who used to feature on this thread regularly before Elon made his move and destroyed our access to twitter with...
- Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley ‘as live’ starting now on Sky
- Replies: 0
- Views: 521
Burnley ‘as live’ starting now on Sky
For the masochists on here… game of the day
- Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Are Arsenal playing more British game than us?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 785
Are Arsenal playing more British game than us?
Looking ahead to the Arsenal game and one thing I have to take my hat off to Mikel Arteta for is spotting the weakness in the new fashion for ‘ball playing goalkeepers’ that try to pat away shots and crosses because they lack physicality. It seems he has been quicker than most to recognise there are...
- Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bundesliga highlights
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1491
Re: Bundesliga highlights
I knew they’d gone down but didn’t realise they were in the bottom half of the table until I looked the other day Was reading they are deep deep trouble. If they do not avoid another relegation (on the cards) they are unlikely to qualify for a place in the league below as they carry too much debt… ...
- Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: REPORT: Much improved at Anfield but another defeat
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1433
Re: REPORT: Much improved at Anfield but another defeat
For me it is a contribution of a young goalkeeper who cannot dominate his immediate area and zonal marking which requires a goalkeeper who can dominate his box…
- Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Josh Brownhill
- Replies: 76
- Views: 4901
Re: Josh Brownhill
We need to show greater ruthlessness in moving players off our books in May-I think Alan Pace will push for it. We used to be great and getting good money for players past their best, but now there appears to be less focus in trying to generate income rather than putting them out on loan.I find it ...
- Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Everton
- Replies: 22
- Views: 3204
Re: Everton
Part of the modern trend to accept no responsibility for historical wrong doing. Society has been let down by populism in politics, now society apes the politics of the last twenty years of political rule. Attracting money and power is all that matters, turn a blind eye… oh that went wrong, we need ...
- Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:25 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - SHEFF UTD v BURNLEY
- Replies: 2445
- Views: 148829
Re: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - LIVERPOOL v BURNLEY
Burnley 2-1 Arsenal - Brownhill 46 mins
Championship
Championship
- Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:17 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Next 10 games
- Replies: 128
- Views: 5119
Re: Next 10 games
If we are relegated, that is a major concern, we may well look at loaning out players to keep them on the books with the hope that we bounce straight back. Even that will see us having to rebuild but the loan market may be the way to recruit. If we find the quality of Beyer, THB, Tella and Maatsen ...
- Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:02 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Next 10 games
- Replies: 128
- Views: 5119
Re: Next 10 games
yep we can't do that, 2 or 3 is ok but anymore and it's just another **** show. I think the story was Assignon would only consider a perm move IF we stayed up. I don't give us a chance of staying up sadly Still believing but it’s getting a bit like still believing in Santa after seeing your dad put...
- Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:59 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arsenal goals yesterday against the Clarets…
- Replies: 5
- Views: 855
Re: Arsenal goals yesterday against the Clarets…
I reckon the Clarets goalkeeper was to blame for at least 3 of the Arsenal goals… Let’s see how Trafford does next week when Arsenal play the real Clarets, I reckon this board would have gone into meltdown if it was Trafford in goal yesterday making those mistakes! Are you suggesting West Ham fans ...
- Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:48 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Next 10 games
- Replies: 128
- Views: 5119
Re: Next 10 games
I know it's highly unlikely but Assignon would be an unreal permanent signing I don’t disagree with Goody’s assessment, but you touch on the problem. How many of the better performers are we going to keep if we go down? We could end up with an endless cycle of rinse and repeat, new builds every sea...
- Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:41 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?
- Replies: 71
- Views: 3743
Re: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?
No idea, but even if he was, that is a signal for the players to get out of the way of Trafford, not a signal to stop marking the forwards. Not that anyone was marking Jota. Obviously Trafford made the wrong choice, and his better choice would have been to stay on his line and hope to save the free...
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:15 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28055
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
I have kept my peace about our young keeper, hoping against hope he’d prove the doubters wrong, but I feel the time has past the lad be given some breathing space to recover his confidence which is clearly shot. Keepers are not getting fouls for every touch this season… unlike most of Trafford’s car...
- Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Blue card
- Replies: 37
- Views: 2248
Re: Blue card
Brilliant idea, but I think they’ve missed a trick… the referee should hold three cards and the guilty player has to pick one to decide the punishment. While we are at it there should be a second referee; the first reverting to all black kit, the second to all white. When the referees disagree they ...
- Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Dara O'Shea
- Replies: 80
- Views: 5157
Re: Dara O'Shea
Bloody hard to man mark though.
- Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match presser
- Replies: 183
- Views: 8474
Re: Post match presser
Why? Is 13 points at this stage of the season acceptable to you? It is extremely disappointing. I’m sure everyone agree’s that much. However, I can see old mantras like Rome was not built in a day and previous managers I recall coming in and being honest… Stan’s it will get worse before it gets bet...
- Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match presser
- Replies: 183
- Views: 8474
Re: Post match presser
I think those of you calling VK a busted flush really need to give their heads a wobble.
- Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match presser
- Replies: 183
- Views: 8474
Re: Post match presser
I was quite pleased with that interview. What he said was very different than what he communicated. Very upset and annoyed that we did not win that football match… he did not see the come back as much to celebrate as a result. He knows himself this is now time to stop stroking egos to improve perfor...
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Q and A Sessions with VK
- Replies: 90
- Views: 4123
Re: Q and A Sessions with VK
Seems like it’s the latest buzzword Not a word I have used, but I understand it. Burnley have always had favourite players and continuity across several seasons where fans got to knows players games and got a feel for the team. I’m the first to admit I could name teams from the seventies onward, ev...
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat
- Replies: 113
- Views: 6905
Re: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat
Unlike others I feel most of the loan players have a long term future at the club, but that it has been identified players may develop quicker by working with other coaches and different ideas to give these young lads a more rounded football education and chance to bulk up while playing at a good le...
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Benson
- Replies: 15
- Views: 2720
Re: Benson
I just think the four year plan has been stuck to rigidly. Had we not taken the league by storm last season this would all be happening at a lower level. Benson’s fitness to complete a full game has clearly been an issue since he arrived. That he still lacks condition suggests his body just may not ...
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
- Replies: 129
- Views: 6616
Re: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
I suspect Connor has struggled this season after seeing the gang ‘all for one’ mentality of last season dismantled. Hopefully we will see it return to some degree in the coming weeks. I can see Roberts returning after a freshen up at Leeds, and it would not surprise me to see him back around the tea...
- Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Turning point
- Replies: 3
- Views: 926
Re: Turning point
At 90 minutes, last night, I lip read the ref say, “next goals the winner”. So although we didn’t get the points we won. That goal is the turning point for me of this hoodoo that City have over us. We’ll lick em next time. We said the same thing about Hamburg SV in 1960 and I don’t think they have ...
- Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Positives or clutching at straws
- Replies: 51
- Views: 3297
Re: Positives or clutching at straws
Never really liked the Premier league...maybe under Coyle and the early Dyche seasons the novelty has well and truly worn off now the Championship plsses all over the Premier league. Must admit I sympathise. I prefer watching football matches to theatre on the pitch myself to be honest; but club an...
- Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Things could be worse.
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2275
Re: Things could be worse.
The ultimate legacy of Jack Walker seems to have been a whole population devoid of any sense of reality. Their trajectory for many years has been similar to our former plummet down the leagues… only checked so far at India’s expense. With it looking increasingly likely that funding is about to dry u...
- Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Positives or clutching at straws
- Replies: 51
- Views: 3297
Re: Positives or clutching at straws
Think we can start to see why Kompany said it would be a four year project, and that we got promotion a year early. A slight adaption perhaps to going up (and I thought we would have enough to beyond stay up this season) but the plan has remained much the same. I suspect that is why VK still has a s...
- Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Depeche Mode - AO arena
- Replies: 28
- Views: 1596
Re: Depeche Mode - AO arena
How we could ever have gone from the Clash and Joy Division to the likes of this lot and Duran Duran in the space of a couple of years remains utterly baffling to me but each to their own of course. Bands like Blonde popularised the New York scene where gender blurring had gone hand in hand with pu...
- Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Actual Transfer News - NO BICKERING or pointless debates...
- Replies: 386
- Views: 51293
Re: Actual Transfer News - NO BICKERING or pointless debates...
📰 Burnley are looking at left back Jayden Oosterwolde from Fenerbahche [@sachatavolieri] Tweet of above 27mins ago 🟣🏴 Infos #BurnleyFC : 🇳🇱 Clarets that are still looking for a left back until the end of the window appreciates the profile of Jayden Oosterwolde from #Fenerbahçe. 🏃🏻 Able to pla...
- Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bacup Borough FC
- Replies: 39
- Views: 2544
Re: Bacup Borough FC
[/quote] Whoever owns the land wants £4 million for it or did as a local junior football club (Rossendale Valley) enquired about buying it! The other ground in Haslingden is St Mary’s which is a good set up. [/quote] Yes now you mention it I heard something about that. There have been attempts to bu...
- Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bacup Borough FC
- Replies: 39
- Views: 2544
Re: Bacup Borough FC
Pre-pandemic last time I visited Haslingden. The one at the bottom of the hill from the main road? Or is there an older ground (I seem to remember playing at as a youth…. A lot longer ago. The old Stand Athletic ground. [/quote] You have put my mind at rest, if nothing else. That was the one I reme...
- Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bacup Borough FC
- Replies: 39
- Views: 2544
Re: Bacup Borough FC
Pre-pandemic last time I visited Haslingden. The one at the bottom of the hill from the main road? Or is there an older ground (I seem to remember playing at as a youth…. A lot longer ago.Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:38 pmAnother local ground in a similar state is Haslingden’s at Ewood Bridge.
- Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bacup Borough FC
- Replies: 39
- Views: 2544
Re: Bacup Borough FC
It's quite some years back but would I be right in saying that Ross Utd chairman also happened to own a development company who eventually threw in the towel....ended up building the houses? Seem to think he was in that business yes. Not sure how the end came but I know he managed to alienate a lot...
- Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bacup Borough FC
- Replies: 39
- Views: 2544
Re: Bacup Borough FC
Oops. Dark Lane. The owner at the time just couldn't afford to keep it running. Shame. End of the local Stags There was a lot of politics behind the scenes. Cannot remember the ins and outs but I remember a close family friend was behind a lot of the upgrading of the ground… floodlights, new stands...
- Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bacup Borough FC
- Replies: 39
- Views: 2544
Re: Bacup Borough FC
Always amazes me that Bacup survived the nineties when their much more successful and famous neighbours Rossendale United went to the wall. Was up at Dean Lane doing some research last year and the ground which had been left to rot ever since is now a housing estate. It seems a different world to gr...
- Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pineapple !! Pineapple...it's a step to far.
- Replies: 49
- Views: 3278
Re: Pineapple !! Pineapple...it's a step to far.
Tomatoes - improved heart health, cancer prevention, and protection against sunburn Mushrooms - cancer prevention, soak up excess sodium in the body, reduce cholesterol, brain health, source of Vit D, promotes gut health and general immunity, Pineapple - Highly nutritious, antioxidants may… aid dig...
- Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Todays football
- Replies: 112
- Views: 4241
Re: Todays football
Maidstone was one of my most memorable ever away days. We arrived for the fourth division fixture to find only one chippy… The poor south Asian girl unused to the accent exceedingly rare could not understand the lad at the front wanted a chip butty… after a long discussion about words for bread… the...
- Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Steve Cotterill
- Replies: 35
- Views: 3726
Re: Steve Cotterill
Quite possibly.