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- Mon May 29, 2017 10:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm
- Replies: 186
- Views: 12701
Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm
The WTO rules are far from the worst case scenario. For example, (1) minor tariffs a smidgen less than WTO, for a £10bn annual fee, wedded to free movement and limitations on negotiating around the world. Less influence in the EU too. In other words, miles worse than remaining. As opposed to (2) a c...
- Mon May 29, 2017 9:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm
- Replies: 186
- Views: 12701
Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm
Why can't she admit she was being loyal to Cameron for fear of the boot if we voted Remain
- Mon May 29, 2017 9:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm
- Replies: 186
- Views: 12701
Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm
Corbyn did well with the audience, as one would expect. He looked battered and bruised after Paxman, I love it when the politicians (of all parties) get their Teflon coating bashed off by Paxo, who seemed to have the tactic of showing the public exactly what Corbyn believes in, i.e. not just domesti...
- Mon May 29, 2017 7:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm
- Replies: 186
- Views: 12701
Re: May vs Corbyn...tonight at 7.00pm
Boris Johnson's on now making political hay against Corbyn for holding an opinion Boris Johnson held until Corbyn shared it last week. This is why people hate politicians. https://www.spectator.co.uk/2005/07/just-dont-call-it-war/ Boris' article from 2005, a week after the London atrocities, is so ...
- Sun May 28, 2017 11:39 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Corbyn ITV now
- Replies: 72
- Views: 6036
Re: Corbyn ITV now
Fallon just lied through his teeth..no surprises there...all this smearing, they must be rattled...[the lie, which the Prime Minister uttered yesterday is that Corbyn used the phrase 'our fault' in relation to the Manchester bomb..] - he has never uttered any such phrase..lying bas*****. What Corby...
- Sun May 28, 2017 11:30 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Andrew Neil Interviews
- Replies: 242
- Views: 15113
Re: Andrew Neil Interviews
I worry (understatement of the year) about the stuff Corbyn has NOT put in his manifesto but may seek to bring in if he could afterwards. All of us can only guess about what that is. Totally unnecessary to worry about this. Just to pick up on this reply from last night, the things I would worry abo...
- Sun May 28, 2017 9:59 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Andrew Neil Interviews
- Replies: 242
- Views: 15113
Re: Andrew Neil Interviews
Corbyn isn't weak though, is he? He's gained the leadership in the face of a lot of opposition - not least of all from within his own party. He's carried on as leader despite everything thrown against him for two years - mass resignations, press smears, everything he's done in the last two years fo...
- Sun May 28, 2017 9:49 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Diane Abbott
- Replies: 149
- Views: 12517
Re: Diane Abbott
Car crash television at its finest.
I have serious doubts about the sanity of anyone on the list of people who thinks Abbott is in any way fit to be a Home Secretary, charged with keeping us safe.
Sadly that list includes Jeremy Corbyn.
I have serious doubts about the sanity of anyone on the list of people who thinks Abbott is in any way fit to be a Home Secretary, charged with keeping us safe.
Sadly that list includes Jeremy Corbyn.
- Sat May 27, 2017 10:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Andrew Neil Interviews
- Replies: 242
- Views: 15113
Re: Andrew Neil Interviews
She struggles as a public speaker, something that as the leader of the government is essential. This is the bit I respectfully disagree with. Yes, it is a quality that is useful to have. We have had the smooth delivery of Blair and Cameron, and the soapbox style of Brown that Corbyn is similar to. ...
- Sat May 27, 2017 7:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Andrew Neil Interviews
- Replies: 242
- Views: 15113
Re: Andrew Neil Interviews
For me it speaks volumes about our society that there has been outrage with the Torys trying to solve the problem that is social care, whilst Corbyn has surged under his free this, free that manifesto. This. I personally thought May made a balls up of the original social care plan, and was right to...
- Fri May 26, 2017 12:03 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Question Time
- Replies: 42
- Views: 3536
Re: Question Time
Usual incredibly PC response to this on QT. Anyone would think Muslims were the victim rather than young teenagers of multiple faiths who were hardly mentioned. Until our media address the real issues, young Muslims in the UK aren't challenged about where they sit on that spectrum that can lead to r...
- Thu May 25, 2017 7:46 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Dyche ------->Palace
- Replies: 1507
- Views: 192186
Re: Dyche ------->Palace
I'm very ambivalent about this. I suspect we will go down next year, not because of any anti-Sean sentiment but because we had a shocking run (2 wins in 16), we face the notorious second season syndrome, one maybe two huge clubs have come up and we are set to lose big players (none bigger than Keane...
- Wed May 24, 2017 12:18 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Big Sam leaving Crystal Palace
- Replies: 75
- Views: 7914
Re: Big Sam leaving Crystal Palace
If Sean gets it that's one relegation place filled - and not by us. They have no decent defenders and his framework may be hard to achieve with all of their flair players. It would take him time to transform it. Sam just kept them up by virtue of beating the top sides late on - and he is the best in...
- Tue May 23, 2017 9:18 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Breaking News Manchester Evening News Arena Explosions
- Replies: 362
- Views: 33754
Re: Breaking News Manchester Evening News Arena Explosions
Saddened and disgusted in equal measure this morning. Two things need to happen now: 1. We carry on as normal. If I have another 50 years if lucky on this planet I'm sure as heck not going to spend it cowering in my house. 2. This incident needs condemnation from all corners of our country, turning ...
- Mon May 22, 2017 9:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Theresa May interview on now...BBC1 [7.00pm]
- Replies: 40
- Views: 3594
Re: Theresa May interview on now...BBC1 [7.00pm]
I'd much rather we look after our elderly and pay for it out of taxation. That would need up to 5% on income tax (if the entire gap was to be closed including people choosing to go without care) - would you be prepared to pay that for people who usually have more wealth than the average taxpayer cu...
- Mon May 22, 2017 9:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Theresa May interview on now...BBC1 [7.00pm]
- Replies: 40
- Views: 3594
Re: Theresa May interview on now...BBC1 [7.00pm]
Its also fair to pay for your own social care up to a point if the alternative is that entire system crumbling and nobody getting anything a decade down the line. I agree. I think though in the medium term there needs to be a social care insurance at a flat rate which increases with age band but no...
- Mon May 22, 2017 8:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ok as things stand right now - How will you vote?
- Replies: 184
- Views: 14054
Re: Ok as things stand right now - How will you vote?
Tory this time.
May serves a necessary purpose in delivering the Brexit I wanted - in 5 years we can then vote on more domestic issues.
Other reason - putting £160m per week into the NHS. Not £350m, and I didn't see it on a bus, but it'll do
May serves a necessary purpose in delivering the Brexit I wanted - in 5 years we can then vote on more domestic issues.
Other reason - putting £160m per week into the NHS. Not £350m, and I didn't see it on a bus, but it'll do
- Mon May 22, 2017 8:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Theresa May interview on now...BBC1 [7.00pm]
- Replies: 40
- Views: 3594
Re: Theresa May interview on now...BBC1 [7.00pm]
Her biggest weakness is that she trusts nobody - the EU, the British public, her Cabinet, the opposition. This leads to her being quite paranoid, and she is often dishonest for fear of people judging her adversely. She showed that tonight. Ironically, I think she would get far more votes if she was ...
- Mon May 22, 2017 3:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jeremy Corbyn & the IRA
- Replies: 345
- Views: 28007
Re: Jeremy Corbyn & the IRA
I suspect that JC views people as more important than countries, and his sense of being British is minimal. That would appeal to a lot of people in a John Lennon kind of way. I suspect that is why he thinks of himself as a peacemaker and can seem pro IRA and pro Palestine at times. If so, that doesn...
- Sun May 21, 2017 8:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v West Ham - Player Ratings
- Replies: 63
- Views: 17159
Re: Burnley v West Ham - Player Ratings
Heaton 5 Lowton 7 Ward 7 Tarkowski 5 Long 4 Westwood 6 Hendrick 5 Arfield 4 Brady 7 Gray 5 Vokes 7 JBG 4 Defour 4 Barnes 4 I hope this was an on the beach performance or it bodes ill for next season unless there is a clear out. We started great then went downhill steadily. We were without our two be...
- Fri May 19, 2017 8:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tory Manifesto
- Replies: 124
- Views: 7940
Re: Tory Manifesto
Various people are asking how much social care costs, well, it is not easy to answer, but with the work I do I have access to dozens of areas of info from which bits can be pieced together. Care comes in four chunks: Local authorities pay around £15bn, down quite a bit as we all know. Users pay less...
- Tue May 16, 2017 8:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Labour's Spending Plans - Fully Costed
- Replies: 189
- Views: 13773
Re: Labour's Spending Plans - Fully Costed
Somebody tell Diane Abbot to fire up the Delorean, we're going back to 1971! Yes, for those who believe in this (not Ringo obviously) going back to 1971 is great. It's great for me too - I get to go back to being six months old again and I'd pay 100% tax or more for that privilege! However, the bit...
- Mon May 15, 2017 11:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ian Brady
- Replies: 73
- Views: 8385
Re: Ian Brady
I'm greatly saddened that I no longer believe in the afterlife and that this evil git gets spared the hell he deserves. Keeping him alive is one thing, keeping him alive with specialist care whilst our glorious, heroic, old folk live in squalor and struggle to access social care - that's quite anoth...
- Sat May 13, 2017 7:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Big Spending Bournemouth
- Replies: 90
- Views: 7592
Re: Big Spending Bournemouth
I bet Bournemouths wages this year are about the same as ours, so all in all Eddie has done a fabulous job.
- Thu May 11, 2017 9:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Defour
- Replies: 153
- Views: 15398
Re: Defour
Fabulous player - from the neck downwards.
I wondered how he fell out so badly with some of his previous clubs and fans - the mists are now parting.
We thought we knew best and that he should play. As so often - we didn't.
I wondered how he fell out so badly with some of his previous clubs and fans - the mists are now parting.
We thought we knew best and that he should play. As so often - we didn't.
- Thu May 11, 2017 7:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Tories
- Replies: 66
- Views: 4748
Re: The Tories
Things the Tories have done well: 1. Raised the profile of issues faced by fostered and adopted children (Gove particularly influential) Things I am not so happy about: 1. Opposed Brexit and lied to try to win 2. Kept low interest rates leading to bubbles everywhere especially housing, leaving young...
- Wed May 10, 2017 12:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Trump has fired the man in charge of the FBI's investigation into Trump's campaign
- Replies: 62
- Views: 4303
Re: Trump has fired the man in charge of the FBI's investigation into Trump's campaign
I suspect Trump views loyalty as paramount compared to a normal politician who would accept they have enemies everywhere. On that basis I can see why he did it. He is a bit narcissistic but that isn't the same as saying there is anything in the Russia links, I think he just hates being criticised or...
- Wed May 10, 2017 12:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: How will we do next season?
- Replies: 45
- Views: 3935
Re: How will we do next season?
The law of averages would suggest that 36/37 points may keep us up. One, maybe two of the promoted sides will struggle to achieve that. Brighton are an unknown - most newly promoted sides for the first time in ages go back down unless they have a massive benefactor like Bournemouth did. The play off...
- Tue May 09, 2017 11:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: MacBook Pro or Windows Laptop?
- Replies: 30
- Views: 3667
Re: MacBook Pro or Windows Laptop?
I bought a big iMac last year, the day the price shot up 20% due to sterling so I got in quick. Had an IPad but no apple laptop before. Won't touch an iPhone, prefer the S7. Love the speed, the reliability of the Mac. Hate, absolutely hate, the shocking Finder compared to Windows Explorer, and equal...
- Tue May 09, 2017 3:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Dale Stephens
- Replies: 76
- Views: 12589
Re: Dale Stephens
I doubt we want him now, and apart from the big city clubs that he isn't good enough for, we are the only Premier League club in the area.
I suspect we have moved on with Westwood and Hendrick (and Defour but he will go I think) so I suspect Stephens knew Brighton was his best option.
I suspect we have moved on with Westwood and Hendrick (and Defour but he will go I think) so I suspect Stephens knew Brighton was his best option.
- Tue May 09, 2017 3:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Article in the Observer (Politics)
- Replies: 147
- Views: 8790
Re: Article in the Observer (Politics)
We're all guilty of being too simplistic in our judgements over things like who voted for Brexit and what influenced the vote - the pollsters encourage it with their simplistic variables such as degree or not, social status, age etc. I commented yesterday that far more variables come into play about...
- Mon May 08, 2017 10:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Article in the Observer (Politics)
- Replies: 147
- Views: 8790
Re: Article in the Observer (Politics)
I've just read this entertaining, if a tad naive, article. Did some powerful folk find a way to coordinate an effective media campaign - yes. Did it break the rules - possibly. BUT... Does Momentum use equally dodgy tactics to try to force socialist / communist propaganda on us (not so much in the r...
- Mon May 01, 2017 10:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: If you were a Political Party
- Replies: 58
- Views: 4080
Re: If you were a Political Party
I will come up with ten - I bet no party has the balls to address any of this stuff. I also bet it is revenue neutral if done right. 1. Big devolution to regions (not just cities) including a lot of tax and spending powers. If one region wants to be low tax and low spend then let them, but ensure th...
- Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:57 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings
- Replies: 51
- Views: 13166
Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings
Can't mark it because I didn't see the whole thing, just some of it, but in general it shows we are such a decent side it makes you wonder why we weren't this ambitious (all be it a bit agricultural) against Sunderland, Boro, Swansea and Hull. We would have taken them to the cleaners. This was the w...
- Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:49 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Who You Gonna Vote For?!
- Replies: 58
- Views: 4467
Re: Who You Gonna Vote For?!
I like it, savvyness at this time of the night, yes, that was my thought tooPaul Waine wrote:Hi Dom, how many message boards are you and your team posting on? Doesn't it strike you as odd all these new posters who want to discuss politics. Someone might think there was a General Election coming up.
- Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:44 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 3 games to go, 2 at home
- Replies: 41
- Views: 6117
Re: 3 games to go, 2 at home
Nobody has put the fixtures of the relevant sides around us, but I would guess 10th. Seven points leaving us on 46.
- Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Are we safe
- Replies: 374
- Views: 39218
Re: Are we safe
Safe as houses. Were before today probably. Some were pessimistically expecting the Swans to suddenly deliver title form. We haven't even had a glimmer of a bad run when you factor in some home games against top sides being almost certain losses. We have done all we expected at home in 2017, and don...
- Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Broken Glass versus MIghty Clarets
- Replies: 478
- Views: 27864
Re: Broken Glass versus MIghty Clarets
Van Aarnholt is the equivalent for Palace as us hypothetically signing Robertson from Hull - a massive upgrade on what they had, he is top notch.
- Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Joey Barton Experience
- Replies: 3
- Views: 890
Re: The Joey Barton Experience
I am tempted to add something about the FA punishing players due to a mental illness, but won't, because I said I'd keep this thread off the gambling issue as such. There's too much I could add on that topic, but today for me is about Joey, not the FA.
- Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Joey Barton Experience
- Replies: 3
- Views: 890
The Joey Barton Experience
(I feel uncomfortable adding this to the big Joey thread because this is nothing to do with his gambling and that thread is mainly about the rights and wrongs of that - it's about inspirational qualities and about mental illness) It was always going to end this way. We knew it when we signed him. 5 ...
- Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Defour
- Replies: 273
- Views: 24975
Re: Defour
I would hazard a guess that the "over the hill" Barton has the best fitness stats of anybody 30 or older in our squad. Not sure how old Boyd is but he could be the exception if he is 30 yet. He has dipped a bit off his superb standards but by heck, what standards they are. It wouldn't just be Defour...
- Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Dyche ball and Dufour
- Replies: 32
- Views: 4665
Re: Dyche ball and Dufour
46% possession and 71% pass accuracy (to Man Utd's 78%) suggests that we played a lot of ball on the deck. Heaton and Tarkowski did both kick the ball out of play a couple of times each but I'm not sure a goalkeeper playing a long-ball is something to be particularly critical of. We figured out fai...
- Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:25 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Let's have some perspective
- Replies: 168
- Views: 14008
Re: Let's have some perspective
I haven't checked the player ratings thread but has someone seriously given Barton a 7?? Not sure it's me you were referring to but I did I think. I thought he showed more tempo and purpose than the rest of the team, he won tackles, headers and even a couple of take-ons, against Pogba if I recall. ...
- Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Manchester United - Player Ratings
- Replies: 65
- Views: 80799
Re: Burnley v Manchester United - Player Ratings
Heaton 5 Lowton 6 Keane 5 Mee 5 Ward 6 Barton 7 Hendrick 6 Brady 6 Boyd 4 Barnes 4 Gray 6 Tarkowski 5 Gudmundsson 5 I couldn't decide if we were not at it or if United were simply better at the ugly stuff. In the end I think a bit of each. We struggled to show any quality and looked low on confidenc...
- Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today's games
- Replies: 203
- Views: 14474
Re: Today's games
These results for Hull and Swansea could be fantastic for us - could be worth a couple of million quid extra if we finish above Watford and Stoke which is very possible. Keeps us focused too.
- Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: With no hoper Corbyn are Labour in for a serious hammering in the General election
- Replies: 151
- Views: 10754
Re: With no hoper Corbyn are Labour in for a serious hammering in the General election
Privatisation, whether you are for or against it, is 1% of the issue in the NHS. It shouldn't even warrant debate. Funding system, access, politics, structure, culture, aging population, rising expectation - all far more important. It is the hardest of all challenges, and all politicians have my sym...
- Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: May a wimp of a leader
- Replies: 212
- Views: 13974
Re: May a wimp of a leader
policies are likely to get ignored anyway as this election is pretty much a one issue election; its a brexit election. it was called on the basis of that one issue and we've already seen that people are intending to vote purely on brexit. makes you wonder why, if they just wanted to confirm the bac...
- Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: May a wimp of a leader
- Replies: 212
- Views: 13974
Re: May a wimp of a leader
Hi nil_d, aside from the way the NHS is organised - I've put forward my thoughts on that on other threads - has there been any work done that will explain why the 55,000 nurses have left their own country and their own health care systems to come and work in the NHS? I've heard it said that some EU...
- Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: May a wimp of a leader
- Replies: 212
- Views: 13974
Re: May a wimp of a leader
Good post Crosspool, except you forgot that it's actually nearer to 150 million when you take into account our rebate and the amount we get back, so there's really not so much to play with. The rebate is what I referred to as the farmer's funding and all that stuff. Much of it we would continue to ...
- Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: May a wimp of a leader
- Replies: 212
- Views: 13974
Re: May a wimp of a leader
I could agree to kick profit makers out of the NHS. As long as by that, he means the vastly overpaid managers who think their job is as hard as the chief executive of a plc. I would agree in theory but my business consultancy is helping the NHS to understand the true cost of each patient using its ...