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by aggi
Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How to Fight Off a Bully XL
Replies: 72
Views: 4520

Re: How to Fight Off a Bully XL

Is it just me who thinks you'd be better throwing the food for them before offering up your leg for them to bite?
by aggi
Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Joey Barton Speaks Out
Replies: 111
Views: 6311

Re: Joey Barton Speaks Out

Just making a point here that I'm sure most people will recognise. You know that Post Office thing that's been in the news a bit recently, do you know what that was once branded as? Yep you've got it- A conspiracy theory. Being easily lead and lacking capacity to make an informed decision could lea...
by aggi
Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Joey Barton Speaks Out
Replies: 111
Views: 6311

Re: Joey Barton Speaks Out

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:17 pm
Have we genuinely got more than one person on this board who thinks there is a global conspiracy led by Bill Gates?
Is George Soros still popular for this kind of thing or has Bill Gates now overtaken him post-covid?
by aggi
Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 805
Views: 70203

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

I don't think we have ever complained once that the club don't engage with the podcast. In fact the club have engaged - the head of women's football has been on as a guest as has the women's team manager. We've simply said that Bobby Ball is welcome on the show anytime. And indeed he is. I doubt he...
by aggi
Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 805
Views: 70203

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

It is a good listen - it’s like listening to a group in the pub after a game The one thing that does annoy me though is the constant calling of Russell Ball “Bobby”. I appreciate it’s said in jest but you keep saying you want members of the board/ALk to come on, and should they listen to any of the...
by aggi
Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12778
Views: 1268595

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

If we hadn't got promoted last season we would have had £20-30 million less parachute money. We'd have lost Tella, Beyer, THB and Maatsen with less money to replace. Cork, Barnes and Jay Rod would have been 34 years old.... A board teetering on the edge with so much debt unless we had a very good s...
by aggi
Tue Feb 06, 2024 3:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dara O'Shea
Replies: 80
Views: 5282

Re: Dara O'Shea

For all the excitement around Beyer and Al Dakhil (and the improvement that Ekdal made when not playing) O'Shea has probably been our best defender this season. He's improved a lot as he's settled but the others haven't got to that stage yet.
by aggi
Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12778
Views: 1268595

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I'm just wondering if we fail to get promoted next season if we are relegated this season what are the implications if any the following year with the debt we have acquired could it be disastrous for a club of our size on and off the pitch... I don't think one failed season would be too much of an ...
by aggi
Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Last gasp goal wins unlikely point
Replies: 170
Views: 6432

Re: REPORT: Last gasp goal wins unlikely point

I think the thing that riles most fans is that VK has tried every single player in the squad to come up with a winning combination,every single one of them apart from Trafford has been dropped/rested ,even Sean Dyche had a light bulb moment when finally decided that Joe Hart even though an ex Engla...
by aggi
Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TRAFFORD
Replies: 808
Views: 31614

Re: TRAFFORD

It's always weird reading this thread before seeing the goals. I was expecting some absolute clangers from some of the comments. Instead there's some instances where a number of players cock up but it's judged by some to be all Trafford's fault. I'm not a huge fan of Trafford, I think we should have...
by aggi
Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: More young signings
Replies: 56
Views: 3540

Re: More young signings

You'll never win anything with kids.... That's the perfect illustration. Their main back line that season was Schmeichel, Neville, Bruce, Pallister and Irwin. An experienced, solid foundation which lets you blood the young players with a lower risk. The algorithms say you can make more money by buy...
by aggi
Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: More young signings
Replies: 56
Views: 3540

More young signings

Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, I didn't notice it but I didn't really venture into the massive transfer thread. So this window we've signed two 21 year olds and a 23 year old. Although I'm not against a decent number of young players I'm not convinced it's what we needed this window. ...
by aggi
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12778
Views: 1268595

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

^^^^ By my reckoning though various investors need £202m in total to breakeven. That involves some remaining pre takeover shareholders, the club itself, and various external investors including maybe ALK themselves. As you note in earlier posts the whole financial picture seems to be deliberately k...
by aggi
Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12778
Views: 1268595

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

^^^^ 3 years of ALK. Crunch could be within another 3 years. Likely relegated this season, then parachute payments, bfc need to get back to PL fairly quickly for any chance of ALK or various lenders not losing money. For them to actually make money, seems to me very difficult. Stay in the Premier L...
by aggi
Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Info - Crystal Palace (a)
Replies: 36
Views: 1667

Re: General Info - Crystal Palace (a)

dandeclaret wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:54 pm
Is that the one where you took us to that working men’s club styled Wetherspoons post match?
Sadly that has now been turned into a gym. I miss it every time I walk past.
by aggi
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Info - Crystal Palace (a)
Replies: 36
Views: 1667

Re: General Info - Crystal Palace (a)

Decent service from Norwood Junction to London Bridge - we've usually used that route. The other option is Selhurst station, both about the same distance away and I think that goes into Victoria. Thornton Heath is also about the same distance (on the same line as Selhurst but the stop before) and h...
by aggi
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12778
Views: 1268595

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Simon appeared focussed on the walk away at nil cost/obligation. The club's debts, whatever the reason for coming into being are the club's and future buyer's responsibility. The repayment of the £115m would enable the club to clear those debts and return itself to its early December 2020 cash hold...
by aggi
Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12778
Views: 1268595

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

The number explicitly refers to the publicly stated debt ALK/VSL have with the club and what they have spent on shares in the club. The club's external debt is not a factor in the answer I provided or the question asked. They said "clear our debts" which I assume is referring to the football club's...
by aggi
Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12778
Views: 1268595

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Break even on shares bought and debt to the club is around £180m - £190m I'm not sure if it would be this much now. The club has effectively paid off a fair chunk of that purchase price when they partially repaid the loans used to fund it. Of course we don't know if there have been further loans or...
by aggi
Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Info - Crystal Palace (a)
Replies: 36
Views: 1667

Re: General Info - Crystal Palace (a)

What’s it like getting back into central London on the train after? Is it as painful as getting away from Brighton, or are the trains more regular? Thinking Norwood Junction. Not too bad from what I remember. There's not as many people heading that way and there are two separate lines nearby (Thorn...
by aggi
Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TRAFFORD
Replies: 808
Views: 31614

Re: TRAFFORD

beddie wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:49 pm
This is a joke right? If not how could anyone of sound mind arrive at that conclusion.
That was actually on the same night that we played Luton.
by aggi
Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Women
Replies: 59
Views: 9511

Re: Burnley Women

I see they'll be at the Turf again on 21st April against Liverpool Feds. https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/content/turf-moor-to-host-burnley-women-in-april Late on in the season so may be vital, or season may be over. Anyone any idea why there is a three week gap in fixtures between end of March a...
by aggi
Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mark Thompson
Replies: 7
Views: 1957

Re: Mark Thompson

It is interesting just how many have been rinsed through the club in this way in recent years - in my eyes it brings into question the whole recruitment process - but then I may be old fashioned in these thoughts. I happened across some of the Man City HR & recruitment team on LinkedIn the other da...
by aggi
Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2023/24: Crystal Palace v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 60
Views: 3503

Re: 2023/24: Crystal Palace v Burnley – Ticket Information

I've got Google wallet but have had stuff in the past that refused to save there and wanted some alternative wallet app. Glad this doesn't seem to be the case here.
by aggi
Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cost of Living
Replies: 198
Views: 12309

Re: Cost of Living

Important to note how many of them use this to give a family member a wage, though. True, I think Nadine Dorries had both of her daughters on the payroll (may explain why she was so slow in quitting) and plenty of others like Johnny Mercer are employing their other half. But, I'm pretty sure the ru...
by aggi
Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2023/24: Crystal Palace v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 60
Views: 3503

Re: 2023/24: Crystal Palace v Burnley – Ticket Information

I emailed the ticket office on this. They said:
These will be emailed out around a week before the game. You will then need to follow the link and download the ticket to the wallet on your phone.

I'm not really sure what it means by a wallet on your phone. Will have to find out I guess.
by aggi
Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cost of Living
Replies: 198
Views: 12309

Re: Cost of Living

AmbleClaret wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:49 pm
They generally claim around £250k in expenses, which can cover nearly all their general costs of living, so it's definitely a good shout.
That expenses figure is a bit misleading though as it includes running their constituency offices so has staff and other business costs in there.
by aggi
Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonights Football
Replies: 255
Views: 10383

Re: Tonights Football

Evidence or not I think we can all agree there was just far too many players of 'potential' signed, we did exactly the same as Southampton did except they started with a far better squad and still went down. The thing that I genuinely cannot get my head around is Kompany not bringing in big lads - ...
by aggi
Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonights Football
Replies: 255
Views: 10383

Re: Tonights Football

'"True football experts recognise talent with the naked eye. They don't rely on numbers in a computer to scout players.'' If that doesn't scream we're taking the moneyball approach, nothing will. https://media1.tenor.com/m/jYZmxGqvQKsAAAAC/old-man-yells-at-cloud-yelling.gif It's not like other club...
by aggi
Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Info - Crystal Palace (a)
Replies: 36
Views: 1667

Re: General Info - Crystal Palace (a)

GetIntoEm wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:12 pm
decent pub recommendations for away fans?
It's short of decent pubs.

I normally go to Thornton Heath and there is the Railway Telegraph near the station (although that has been home fans only sometimes) or the Prince George on the way to the ground. I'd say the Railway Telegraph is better.
by aggi
Tue Jan 30, 2024 12:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2023/24: Crystal Palace v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 60
Views: 3503

Re: 2023/24: Crystal Palace v Burnley – Ticket Information

As Leisure has said, all to the individuals rather than to the lead email address which makes it harder work when you are organising a trip for a few people, trying to make sure they've all got their tickets. To only be sending them out two days before the game is ridiculously short notice too. Che...
by aggi
Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How often does this happen
Replies: 17
Views: 2528

Re: How often does this happen

Strange one to class football support as being ‘tribal’ as though it is rooted in Neanderthal man. Almost suggests such supporters support a town/ area irrespective of the sport that is played. By contrast, the supporters ( and players) of the much more physical game of rugby appreciate the finesse...
by aggi
Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2023/24: Crystal Palace v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 60
Views: 3503

Re: 2023/24: Crystal Palace v Burnley – Ticket Information

Tickets won’t be emailed out until the Thursday before the game. The club have confirmed: “All tickets for this fixture will be digital and emailed over each to individual supporter a couple of days before the match.” Any idea if they'll all be emailed to the person who ordered or each ticket sent ...
by aggi
Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cost of Living
Replies: 198
Views: 12309

Re: Cost of Living

South West Claret. wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:02 pm
Lazy Tory git alert https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-68133873
To be fair, it's pretty clear he's quitting his ministerial role so he can take on a high paying (and I'm sure awarded only on merit) second job.
by aggi
Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Women
Replies: 59
Views: 9511

Re: Burnley Women

That puts Forest right in the mix too, although Newcastle still in prime position. Technically still in our own hands though, going to be an interesting second half of the season.
by aggi
Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC
Replies: 228
Views: 13624

Re: ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC

I really dont, youre missing my point entirely. This club doesnt exist without the fans, Pace doesnt buy the club etc etc. The fans are also the ones that are left to pick up the pieces if it all goes tits up. IMO they have a right to be communicated with better than they have been so far, especial...
by aggi
Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Get ready for protests down the M65
Replies: 91
Views: 7858

Re: Get ready for protests down the M65

Losses and debts are OK as long as they are sustainable. When Venkys stop pumping in the money... its bye bye. They can sell Wharton, £18m in the bank... where does that money go... back into the team's development or paying off debts? They'll have to hope for another Wharton to come through the ra...
by aggi
Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC
Replies: 228
Views: 13624

Re: ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC

It was obvious but you used very high numbers as to how it would benefit us with FFP when in reality those sort of numbers wouldn’t happen and wouldn’t really be a help towards FFP Recent FFP breaches haven't been by huge amounts. A handful of transfers at £3m or £5m or something, maybe spread arou...
by aggi
Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Get ready for protests down the M65
Replies: 91
Views: 7858

Re: Get ready for protests down the M65

daveisaclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:16 pm
There's massive losses and then massive losses though, isn't there? The amount Venky's are plugging into Rovers is obscene.
They're about mid-table in annual losses. Preston make bigger losses.

If they manage to sell Wharton for £18.5m they'll be making a profit.
by aggi
Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Conscription
Replies: 132
Views: 7018

Re: Conscription

Considering I work for an American company with lots of Americans that would be difficult to avoid them. As you were. Real people are for trump. The media plants and limp wristed Academic types with no real life experience may not be. Fair enough. I guess I'll just have to tell my American clients ...
by aggi
Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC
Replies: 228
Views: 13624

Re: ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC

For those who didn't realise I was just using an example I've expressed it algebraically. Hopefully that will make it easier to understand. The not at all suspicious way this definitely hasn't happened elsewhere is Dundee buy a player (youth player is particularly helpful) off us for £x and we buy a...
by aggi
Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC
Replies: 228
Views: 13624

Re: ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC

Nori1958 wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:24 pm
So when did we last sell a youth player for 19m?
When did Dundee last sell a player for 20m?

Like I said,... Far fetched
I thought it was fairly obvious that I'd just picked some nice round numbers as an example. You can flex the numbers to whatever you feel is more realistic.
by aggi
Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC
Replies: 228
Views: 13624

Re: ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC

Nori1958 wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:51 pm
Far fetched or what?
Given that this was a large part of the Juventus financial irregularities that ended with them having points docked it isn't far fetched at all.

The Miralem Pjanic/Arthur Melo transfer is a real world example.
by aggi
Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC
Replies: 228
Views: 13624

Re: ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC

Top drift is fine, it’s frustrating when people on the transfer thread can’t understand that it happens, I just meant purely on the topic. In regards to FFP I can’t see how Dundee would be able to help us massively with FFP anywhere, they won’t pay big transfer fees and I don’t even think their loa...
by aggi
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Conscription
Replies: 132
Views: 7018

Re: Conscription

Strange when you speak to any American they all agree DT done a good job last time. I mean you only have to look at the carnage the Biden Admin has caused since. The establishment detest him and are throwing as much nonsense as they can at him yet it’s only making him stronger. Spoiler: Shaggy has ...
by aggi
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Get ready for protests down the M65
Replies: 91
Views: 7858

Re: Get ready for protests down the M65

Don't really understand the criticism of anti-Venky Rovers fans. They bought an established Premier League club and turned it into a crap Championship team (with a stint in League One thrown in). It's a disgrace that that club runs with such losses and under decent owners it wouldn't. Virtually eve...
by aggi
Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC
Replies: 228
Views: 13624

Re: ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC

Keyes Capital have a website that makes EMA Equity Partners look good
http://www.keyescap.com/
by aggi
Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC
Replies: 228
Views: 13624

Re: ALK CAPITAL ANNOUNCES STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNDEE FC

Nori1958 wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:20 pm
They have bought assets with that money, which negates the chances of things going wrong somewhat
Technically true I guess. They bought Burnley Football Club.
Nori1958 wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:52 pm
I meant players
Not players.
by aggi
Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: No sign of Culvert work being completed
Replies: 158
Views: 18598

Re: No sign of Culvert work being completed

Clovius Boofus wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:05 pm
But not as safe. It's bad enough driving round East Lancs in a car, never mind on a bike.
If you look at the big picture it generally works out that cycling is better for life expectancy. The health benefits more than offset the slight increase in risk.
by aggi
Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Obafemi becomes a Lion
Replies: 103
Views: 7938

Re: ARTICLE: Obafemi becomes a Lion

It wasn't a punt last season, we made £70 million and spent £40 million twice the annual turnover of the likes of Blackburn Rovers. If we had a transfer budget twice the annual turnover of the average PL side we would probably be challenging the top 6. But none of that really makes sense of loaning...