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HieronymousBoschHobs

You are getting there: assets are things that generate income ("an asset is a resource with economic value... with the expectation that it will provide a future benefit") - gov'ts tend to tax that income, either as income tax or capital gains tax. Liabilities are "debts" and other obligations to pa...

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FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:54 pm
I wonder if we could set up an Uptheclarets one between posters on here.

Not sure how it works, but don't imagine it would be difficult.

I think we should do it. FIFA 20, can probably do a a private tournament.

HieronymousBoschHobs

Should have got PS4

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Full praise to everyone who has been willing to put up with the abuse and present a more balanced view of what's going on in the country with this crisis. Should not be about backslapping, I-told-you-so, or any other form of one-upmanship. Doubting that the government has got this right is not a lef...

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Do it. A mate persuaded me many years ago and I've never looked back.

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Unbelievable.

Profiteering. Surely as low as you can go?

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So you are asking me what I mean by assets exactly and what I mean by wealth. I'm not coming up with the meaning of these terms from my imagination. Instead, I am googling them and getting the definition commonly accepted in the financial world :P : Asset: 'An asset is a resource with economic value...

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I can refer you to the economists and commentators I have read. In fact, I tried to talk about Thomas Piketty with you, but you simply said 'I disagree' when presented with his arguments. The sooner we can't stop seeing ideas as being somehow infected by a particular political viewpoint, the sooner ...

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???? Which government's revenues from income tax as a proportion of wealth have (sic) been decreasing decade on decade? What does this mean? Income tax is charged on income. Income arises from 2 sources: 1) employment (including self-employment) and 2) income earned by the assets you own. The latte...

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I saw a clip of a previous episode on Goggle box, so when I noticed the most recent episode was set in Burnley I tuned in. I won't be watching it again. Awful TV and in a time when equality is being advocating the idea of five blokes pandering after a woman ( without alternating episodes were five ...

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It makes sense for 5000 ventilators, enough for about 4000 people + extra demand (in normal times)

HieronymousBoschHobs

x/y = z/w

(x/y) x w = z

4123 (total england critical beds) / 55,980,00 (popn of England) = z / 1000 [where z is number of critical beds]

(4123/55,980,00) x 1000 = 0.07~

z = 0.07

so, 0.07 / 1000 or 7 / 100,000 as TBR says.

What are the OECD figures coming from? Surely, we have more beds.

HieronymousBoschHobs

Yes so 4123 open and 3423 occupied, means 4123 in total. Was trying to work out what we had per 1000 overall but perhaps a job for the morning! Don’t think these figures can be right nationwide, possibly have more beds available.

HieronymousBoschHobs

I’m sure someone here said they’d studied statistics,

66.44 million/1000 = 66440

66440/7546 (total adult critical care beds) gives 8.8 beds per 1000 people.

So, for every 1000 people in the country we have about 9 beds?

(Although much less because many will already be occupied)

HieronymousBoschHobs

Deleted the image because I don’t want to spread false news/panic. As thatdberight says, critical care could mean something different in NHS-speak to intensive care.

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HieronymousBoschHobs

Hi HMHobs, so, am I confused, do you want the UK government to find a way to collect tax on assets around the world, even on people who don't have any connection with the UK? What's the point of an asset tax, if "vast majority of people do not have substantial assets?" How will taxes be paid by tho...

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Got you, sorry, misunderstood. My view is anyone complaining about the number of ICU beds, ventilators, PPE, whatever, needs to know what volumes we have held over the last 25 years to know if this government has underinvested or been negligent. Your data, however inaccurate, certainly suggests the...

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When we have got through this medical emergency we have to have a national debate about the Health and Social care service we want. It is easy to say tax the rich/tax dodgers etc but that won’t work, as there will always be someone who earns more than you, the reality is we all will have to pay mor...

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I thought (correct me if I'm wrong) that it was ICL who came back with revisions to their own modelling which caused the quite quick ratcheting of action. Which isn't to negate or dispute your other point but I don't think this was ever a political decision which became a scientific one. That's cer...

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We’re in a bad situation. Looking at the evidence used in the decision making, it does seem like the government probably chose the wrong strategy initially. Hence the open letter from mathematicians and computer scientists questioning the models used by the government before the weekend. Imperial ha...

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Anyone seen this?

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Looks like the government is buying time with the social distancing measures, delaying and limiting the peak until late Autumn. Not sure if the tide will be turned in 12 weeks.

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Grumps wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:06 pm
As a scientific comparison, what would you compare this virus with, other than flu? Not talking symptoms, seriousness, outcomes etc etc, but just a numbers comparison...

Impossible to answer that question without a longitudinal study I'd imagine.

HieronymousBoschHobs

That’s alright. I do genuinely think they’ve done the right thing here. Now I’m just hoping the country can weather the storm.

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BennyD wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:05 pm
We’ve joined them and proved you are a ****. The evil Tories are now going to pay 80% of salaries for the next 3 months.

Please stop engaging in petty political point scoring.

HieronymousBoschHobs

Excellent that the government took the advice of the Trade Union Congress and Labour Party in enacting these new measures, history will surely remember their contribution. After all, it’s at times like this it’s important for all political parties and their supporters to work together and not to eng...

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God bless the TUC.

HieronymousBoschHobs

The whole reason for this thread is to inform people about the shortcomings of our so called prime minister. The title: "Boris Watch" kind of gives that away. It's an important thread, because it disseminates information you won't find in the majority of UK newspapers. If you find it boring (did yo...

HieronymousBoschHobs

I think the clue is in me saying “whatever your party politics”. This is no time for anyone to politicise any aspect. My point is that the Government are, in my opinion, doing a great job under extreme pressure. How is that not politicising the issue? If lots of people disagree because they have a ...

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Damo wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:47 am
You read that quite often I bet Charlie

HieronymousBoschHobs

Yes if possible, maybe a thread for any clarets struggling to get out to buy food?

I’m coming back to Burnley today so I can do my parents shopping because they are self isolating but could probably do a run for others.

HieronymousBoschHobs

Also, when this ”moonbat” read ”Get a life”

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https://www.psychologistworld.com/influ ... ersonality

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[quote=HieronymousBoschHobs post_id=<a href="tel:1234961">1234961</a> time=<a href="tel:1584567657">1584567657</a> user_id=1526] Except, and I don't really want to go here, that's not the story everyone is telling. There are others saying the science did not change, but that the government and its ...

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Yeah that's very confusing. My mate is only in once a week and he says it's all online now. I'm guessing that individual classes will be told what the plan is for them. I'm not sure what position they are in legally because I think the government statement was aimed more at primary and secondary sch...

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Except, and I don't really want to go here, that's not the story everyone is telling. There are others saying the science did not change, but that the government and its advisors got it wrong: 'After weeks of inaction, the government announced a sudden U-turn on Monday, declaring that new modelling ...

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I've got a mate on a course there at the moment so will find out. Agree that it's slightly unclear: quite a wordy statement but it appears they are shifting to online learning but remaining open for some courses on a case by case basis "During this period of remote learning, from 23 March to 2 April...

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arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:11 pm
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Whatever your party politics, the government should be applauded for their handling of this under extreme pressure.

Please don't politicise the thread. I will refrain from criticising the Tories if others refrain from praising them.

HieronymousBoschHobs

Often the same people who moan about people politicising the crisis are the same time people praising Johnson's handling of the crisis. If political critique is politicising the issue, then so too is political praise. If people refrain from praising Johnson, I will refrain from criticising him. It g...

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How are predicted grades calculated these days?

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BennyD wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:33 pm
Blah, blah, blah, left wing drivel, blah, blah, blah. Rinse and repeat.

Well that's me told

HieronymousBoschHobs

I know there are a few teachers on here. Have you heard anything on the grapevine about how students will be assessed if exams are cancelled? I heard it could be teacher assessment but not sure what that will involve. I think predicted grades would be very unfair on some A Level students, especially...

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thatdberight wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:49 pm
Nitpicking.

Well I did use the geek emoticon

HieronymousBoschHobs

Official name of the virus (I.e. the organism) is actually: severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) No idea why more media outlets have not got the words ‘severe acute respiratory syndrome’ in their copy because it at least sounds scarier than flu. The disease caused by the orga...

HieronymousBoschHobs

The pricks on the left are still trying to make some sort of point about the Tories. Give it a f*cking rest. If it wasn’t your man in charge you’d be all over it. As I’ve said previously, the Tories have been in charge of the health system for a decade and the role of government is to prepare for d...

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Re: the where did it come from debate? Coronaviruses do come from animals, but this one probably did not come directly from a bat. Instead there was an intermediate host which transmitted the virus to a human being. Here is how Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome spread (also a Coronavirus): 59486C8...

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I think we need an ultra liberal, teach-the-world-to-sing poster called GeorgeLennon for balance.

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I am a labour voter, I don’t like Boris. However, Boris takes no blame for any of this. He is doing as he is told by the government experts. In times like this, no matter how much you dislike our leader, we must pull together. Boris has been admirable during his press conferences. It pains me to sa...

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I was having a conversation with a mate of mine about the coverage of this, the reporting of official advice etc, and notwithstanding any justifiable criticism of the govt's communication, we came to the conclusion that the print media, right across the spectrum, has utterly squandered what respons...

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I do. It's a rag. However the fact of trying to make out "worst case" and "as many as" to be different speaks for itself in this case. It's a piece that would do the Daily Mail proud. Well they are chasing clicks and eyeballs like everyone else I guess. More interesting I thought was this: The docu...

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