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by Rileybobs
Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
Replies: 494
Views: 14977

Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

We really are our own worst enemies. Last week with a few seconds of the half left Fofana concedes possession cheaply when he could have held the ball or drawn a foul. And then this. Where’s the game management and intelligence. This game was there for the taking, and still is. But I suspect we won’...
by Rileybobs
Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea and diving ...
Replies: 23
Views: 1610

Re: Chelsea and diving ...

Best case you get a penalty and the opposition get a player sent off. Worst case the ref waves play on. There's no downside to diving and a considerable upside so it's no surprise that teams do it. Even worse is that VAR encourages diving, because if you dive and in the process of doing so the oppo...
by Rileybobs
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Double barrelled surnames.
Replies: 73
Views: 2977

Re: Double barrelled surnames.

Rowls wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:25 am
You've wrongly inferred again here.

When I spoke of incorrect inferences I was referring to the accusation of "snootiness".
Rowls wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:25 am

Well I certainly caught a few with the blandest of baits in using "Christian name"
by Rileybobs
Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Double barrelled surnames.
Replies: 73
Views: 2977

Re: Double barrelled surnames.

I quite agree but there is, as seen on this thread, a peculiar kind of reactionary type eager to wrongly infer all kinds of meanings beyond the simple things being said. If you actually read the thread you will see that not a single person has wrongly inferred anything by you using the term Christi...
by Rileybobs
Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Shurandy Sambo
Replies: 100
Views: 7587

Re: Shurandy Sambo

We’ve already got a good right back. I’m surprised the board would agree anything at this stage. I would have expected some players to be sold beforehand. I can only assume if it’s correct that an agreement now was to avoid him being snapped up before the season end. Few million quid for Roberts an...
by Rileybobs
Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Shurandy Sambo
Replies: 100
Views: 7587

Re: Shurandy Sambo

Andy Sambo, no doubt.
by Rileybobs
Fri Apr 05, 2024 11:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Luxury tax
Replies: 39
Views: 2646

Re: Luxury tax

Just push the big 6 clubs to the Euro super league that I’m sure the Saudi’s would love to bankroll & the prem would be as competitive as the championship & supported by fans. And what of supporters of the big 6 clubs? Do you think they all want their team to be pushed into a Euro super league? And...
by Rileybobs
Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cole Palmer
Replies: 26
Views: 3348

Re: Cole Palmer

Very good player. The best on the pitch against us at weekend. He doesn’t make England’s first eleven for me but he’s got to be worth a place in the squad - his penalty record makes that a no-brainer.
by Rileybobs
Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 11918

Re: Administration?

UK disclosure rules do not say that directors need to disclose remuneration that they have received from an affiliate company. The remuneration that directors disclose is only for remuneration from the company and its other group companies. What does have to be disclosed is monies paid by BFC to an...
by Rileybobs
Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 11918

Re: Administration?

Rileybobs, please read my two posts, above. It is possible that a management fee paid to an affiliate entity would be paid to the directors of the affiliate entity. But, if those directors of the affiliate entity are also directors of the reporting entity any such payment would need to be included ...
by Rileybobs
Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 11918

Re: Administration?

I didn't claim, I quoted the accounts that state it. I also said a management fee paid to an affiliate doesn't indicate that Alan Pace and other directors were paid that management fee. But it seems to me you’ve insinuated that Pace and co haven’t taken any remuneration, unless I’ve misunderstood y...
by Rileybobs
Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 11918

Re: Administration?

It's not only possible, it's certain. The accounts say it was paid to an affiliate. But, just because Alan Pace is a director of the company providing management services doesn't mean that the fee was paid to Alan Pace or any other directors. Maybe it's, in part, pays for JJ Watt and Kealia Watt (a...
by Rileybobs
Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 11918

Re: Administration?

Note 6: The Company had no employees, other than the directors, who received no remuneration during the year. The directors of Burnley FC Holdings Limited are considered to be the key management personnel of the Group. None of the directors received remuneration from the Group during the current or...
by Rileybobs
Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 11918

Re: Administration?

Hi Ian, I don't think anyone has answered your question. The latest set of accounts very clearly state that none of the directors received any remuneration for their services. Equally, no dividends are being paid, so shareholders aren't taking any money out of the club. Who do you think BFC paid a ...
by Rileybobs
Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Luxury tax
Replies: 39
Views: 2646

Re: Luxury tax

That organisation needs to grow a pair.
by Rileybobs
Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 11918

Re: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23

Completely agree that this was a deliberate strategy to facilitate the purchase. It’s a very simplistic argument to say that Garlick ran the club “properly” and never took any remuneration or dividends. If he would have taken £7m or £8m dividend every season there would be outrage amongst many fans...
by Rileybobs
Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Corners- what is going on
Replies: 32
Views: 2882

Re: Corners- what is going on

He's pretty well known. A performance analyst who seems interested in set piece routines. For us he's a performance analyst and set piece coach. https://thepfsa.co.uk/richard-bredice-best-and-worst/ You can see what he was trying to do. The players just failed to execute them well. If one came off ...
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The lack of minutes on the pitch for Benson
Replies: 31
Views: 2272

Re: The lack of minutes on the pitch for Benson

Initially when Bellamy was appointed, I was influenced by his "on the edge " playing style, and assumed he would let VK know his views. Nothing to suggest Bellamy is like this, and comes over now as shy and quiet. Sadly Mike Jackson appears the same. Maybe thats how VK likes it You’ve got absolutel...
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Double barrelled surnames.
Replies: 73
Views: 2977

Re: Double barrelled surnames.

Rowls wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:56 pm
The surname-as-Christian-name thing is a trend among lower income demographics who are also most likely to be divorced, hence the propensity to also have double barreled surnames
Please explain how a surname as a Christian name is a trend among lower income demographics.
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonight's Footy April 3rd
Replies: 43
Views: 1653

Re: Tonight's Footy April 3rd

That's still up for debate. If he doesn't win anything then it can't really be viewed as a success. Losing in a final isn't something to celebrate if it's the peak of their achievements. It needs to be a stepping stone to success. Whole different discussion and I’m sure one we will have plenty of t...
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonight's Footy April 3rd
Replies: 43
Views: 1653

Re: Tonight's Footy April 3rd

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:48 pm
Staggering how Southgate doesn't build the team around him
He pretty much builds the team around Kane and I think that’s proven quite a sensible thing to do.
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Double barrelled surnames.
Replies: 73
Views: 2977

Re: Double barrelled surnames.

Used to be seen as Upper Class now it’s the polar opposite. Some pretty distasteful comments here. No doubt double-barrelled surnames are now more popular as more people have children outside of wedlock and give their children both surnames, or couples choose not to inherit their partner’s name whe...
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonight's Footy April 3rd
Replies: 43
Views: 1653

Re: Tonight's Footy April 3rd

That Rodri is pretty decent.
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sequence of events after Wolves Scored
Replies: 29
Views: 2465

Re: Sequence of events after Wolves Scored

Imo, the goal would have been given. The VAR check had been completed, the ref signalled goal and pointed to the centre spot for Burnley to restart the game. Every player was in his correct half of the pitch and the Wolves keeper was miles out of his nets. That's his problem. I just wished so much ...
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Not Flagging Offsides
Replies: 20
Views: 1536

Re: Not Flagging Offsides

My issue is that when we win the ball back from an attack, the linesman waves the delayed flag, and then the referee stops play, which kills the advantage after we win back possession. It kills the momentum, the opposition has regrouped, and I'm not sure if the time is added on for the free kick to...
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Six Points From Safety... Everton A Must Win?
Replies: 37
Views: 2257

Re: Six Points From Safety... Everton A Must Win?

Realistically we were consigned to relegation some time ago, but the recent run of results and good performances has left us with a very outside chance. A good point last night although we've left ourselves in a position where points at home to bottom half/middling teams is not going to cut it. On a...
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Not Flagging Offsides
Replies: 20
Views: 1536

Re: Not Flagging Offsides

It goes hand in hand with VAR. How can we have VAR if assistant referees flag for offside and play is brought to a stop?
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Corners- what is going on
Replies: 32
Views: 2882

Re: Corners- what is going on

I presume VK doesn't have the time to spend going through hours of clips each week of defensive and attacking set pieces or looking through loads of stats and then coming up with creative solutions. Having a person dedicated to that makes sense, it's statistically a vital part of the game and shoul...
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Todays football 1st April
Replies: 110
Views: 4734

Re: Todays football 1st April

Awful challenge.
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Fans at Yesterdays Chelsea Game.
Replies: 26
Views: 5077

Re: Burnley Fans at Yesterdays Chelsea Game.

Great support from just over 1,000 clarets. Tony is pretty accurate with his estimation of our following so to get grief for stating a fact is a unnecessary in my view. There were a few ‘tourists’ again though in the upper deck. Can’t say I blame them if they got the tickets at a reasonable price. ...
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Chelsea
Replies: 102
Views: 6008

Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Chelsea

Stephen Warnock described it as the worst decision this season.
by Rileybobs
Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Chelsea
Replies: 102
Views: 6008

Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Chelsea

When the ref gives a penalty, VAR will not overturn it unless they can prove that the forward was not touched. If there was the merest touch, then it will be confirmed. That's the way the powers that be think it should be done, for the time being. Exactly. Even though I was apoplectic when it was g...
by Rileybobs
Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TODAYS FOOTY
Replies: 156
Views: 5068

Re: TODAYS FOOTY

Ipswich have obviously had another strong season and they impressed against us in the cup albeit both teams made lots of changes, this is the first time I've seen them this season and if that's the standard then we will get 100+ points again next season no fear (assuming there is no miracle this se...
by Rileybobs
Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TODAYS FOOTY
Replies: 156
Views: 5068

Re: TODAYS FOOTY

Robbie_painter wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:22 pm
If that half of football is anything to go by it’s a terrible league.
Sure there’s more to it than half a game. But if Ipswich win they will be just 3 points behind where we were at this stage of the season.
by Rileybobs
Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TODAYS FOOTY
Replies: 156
Views: 5068

Re: TODAYS FOOTY

Must be a poor league then because they’re top of it.
by Rileybobs
Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TODAYS FOOTY
Replies: 156
Views: 5068

Re: TODAYS FOOTY

Good decision to be fair.
by Rileybobs
Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TODAYS FOOTY
Replies: 156
Views: 5068

Re: TODAYS FOOTY

Hahahaha
by Rileybobs
Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TODAYS FOOTY
Replies: 156
Views: 5068

Re: TODAYS FOOTY

Unfortunately they may only need 4-5 points to stay up.
by Rileybobs
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 816
Views: 52487

Re: Season tickets next season

Sproggy wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:40 pm
I'm a "legacy supporter". Every club would shift us out in a heartbeat if they could fill the stadium with cash-rich tourists.
This is true. But that doesn’t make it right, or mean we have to accept that BFC has joined this club.
by Rileybobs
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 816
Views: 52487

Re: Season tickets next season

They're still amongst the cheapest in the top 2 divisions and you have a choice not to buy one. Plus, if you're big on ethics, you're probably following the wrong sport. Obviously I have a choice to not to buy one, that doesn’t stop me having a view on the price rises. I don’t follow football for e...
by Rileybobs
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 816
Views: 52487

Re: Season tickets next season

Or there will be a lot of people prepared to pay the 9th lowest ST price in the Championship to gamble on this team playing some decent football at the top end of the Championship. And if we are, the walk-on's will take the spares. Well yes, that’s what the owners are hoping will happen. That doesn...
by Rileybobs
Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Policy on taking babies on Turf Moor
Replies: 108
Views: 4228

Re: Policy on taking babies on Turf Moor

In my day women took their babies down t’pit.
by Rileybobs
Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 816
Views: 52487

Re: Season tickets next season

Been to Waggoners a few times, lots of pensioners. Been to cafe in Towneley and garden centre, plenty of pensioners. Went to Mechanics for show last week, again lots of pensioners as was the bistro prior was to the show. Stop bleating on about the the over 65. CT and other OAP’s go to virtually eve...
by Rileybobs
Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Google Contactless Pay
Replies: 78
Views: 3097

Re: Google Contactless Pay

How could they find out you have a Coinbase account? For the record, I know that the transactions are not stored on your phone, I know that the institution in question will give you all the details when asked, what I don't know is how the executor knows who to contact if there isn't a paper trail. ...
by Rileybobs
Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Google Contactless Pay
Replies: 78
Views: 3097

Re: Google Contactless Pay

If I die, and my brother has to sort out my affairs, and all my transactions are on my mobile phone - how does he find out where my money is? Your transactions wouldn't be on your mobile phone. Your mobile phone is the medium by which those transactions may have been made. I'm not being rude but I ...
by Rileybobs
Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 816
Views: 52487

Re: Season tickets next season

From a personal point of view the price increases are negligible, however this still leaves a bad taste. Since the club was bought by ALK the strategy is pretty clear; charge more for 'premium' seats, increase the corporate offering, and edge out the concessions - who after all are getting the same ...
by Rileybobs
Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 816
Views: 52487

Re: Season tickets next season

Shaun1983 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:48 pm
Did you get this sorted? My 8 year old is also down as an adult
They grow up so fast.
by Rileybobs
Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Passport problems
Replies: 86
Views: 3693

Re: Passport problems

On the bright side the passport office seem to have got their act together as we got a new one issued within 2 weeks of making the application just this month. Compared to the chaos we faced 2 years ago…
by Rileybobs
Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Google Contactless Pay
Replies: 78
Views: 3097

Re: Google Contactless Pay

I use Apple Pay (never used Google Pay) which for some time was useable with a finger print. Then with my last couple of phones it's been facial recognition. I found that a faff (I like that word) at first but got used to it and find it much easier and quicker than getting cards out of my wallet. I...
by Rileybobs
Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Internationals 26-3-24
Replies: 98
Views: 3693

Re: Internationals 26-3-24

Shame a Leeds player blew it.