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Lancasterclaret wrote:Nah, full closure mate

Cheers LC.

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cutsy123 wrote:southbound

Still moving okay northbound?

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The Subtle art of not giving a f*ck. - Funny, but also thought provoking.

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Sorry bout that champ. Winding my neck in as we speak..

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Souness fell for one of those, much more short-lived - Ali Dia. Absolutely hilarious.

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This thread is quality. Nice work. A couple of people may have gotten a little over-excited!

Looking forward to the Clarets giving the haggis munchers a beating so hard they will be too embarrassed to travel South of the border!

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We must have a lot of kids, retired, work shy or unemployed based on the time spent on these threads! It wouldn’t be so bad if there was something different being said but each thread is the same bloody arguments. Yeah, it does end up like we are fighting the referendum again most of the time. Prob...

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. He often makes valid points but spoils them with his childish one upmanship. This applies to IT too. That guy can argue with his own shadow and will never admit he is wrong. Just tangles his opposite number up in side arguments and pedantry. Pretty much exactly this. Both make good points and sta...

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...bait cast, now the patient wait to see if burnleymik or jakubclaret have a sense of humour... :lol: Devils has a problem with people who disagree with him, he can't debate like normal folk, he reverts to name calling, stereo-typing and generally acting like a kid, hence I popped him on mute. It'...

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As a Brexiter I agree completely. That no deal would cause as much damage to the EU as it would to Britain, which is why at the 11th hour a deal will be struck. The only thing holding back a deal is pedantism. Neither wants to appear as the loser. The problem with that is if no deal is struck every...

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The worrying thing about a lot of this is how quickly the majority of the MSM are prepared to push EU propaganda and how quickly the ones who want to believe it, swallow it and regurgitate whole. Clearly we are being told the worst case scenarios and being fed them as though this is what will actual...

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Burden? I never saw that written on the side of a bus. Anyway, it's going to be great - Daily Mail, Daily Express, Daily Star and The Sun told me so. Also, at least Brexit will sort out our obesity crisis. See, every cloud has a silver lining... Yes, the burden of the extra strain on the ports, whi...

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martin_p wrote:Yes, but the rest of the world has systems and prices to reflect the fact they’re on WTO. We don’t!

The only reason we don't, as yet, is because of the utter incompetence of this government to put anything in place for a no deal scenario.

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Is there some huge stockpile of unused ferries/cargo ships? (I genuinely don’t know but would doubt it). If not we’d better start building them now. Where are these extra staff coming from and who’s going to pay for them? (the answer to that last part is us). Bringing in more goods sounds very much...

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martin_p wrote:Well I don’t think anyone has been talking about famine. So what are these measures?

More ferries/cargo ships, the fast track lane, with more staff at the ports. Fly in essentials of medicine, blood etc. There are probably numerous other things they could do to ease the burden.

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But even with ‘a little common sense’ it takes longer and is more expensive to get goods through than it is now. Businesses in the U.K. are optimised for frictionless trade with the EU. You introduce even a little bit of friction and it has a big impact. Granted, but it's not going to be the scenar...

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It's quite laughable really. These same people made all the threats before Brexit, only now they have ramped it up a little bit more. I predicted on the other thread that this was coming.... project fear mk11 - The Overdrive! :lol: They are going spend the next few weeks trying to make no deal sound...

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Youre overselling yourself if you believe there is a flow to your threads/posts with arguments and counter arguments. It's not my issue if you have a problem following a thread. Maybe your mind is so pre-occupied with trying to find an insult that you cannot keep it on track. The shortened version ...

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A no deal is possible because we leave in just over 7 months time and our politicians couldn’t negotiate their way out of a paper bag. It’s not some devious plan to get to another referendum, it’s massive incompetence! Okay, well let's wait and see. I think it's a ploy to get that 2nd ref. I absolu...

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Because there isn’t a white paper that would satisfy the Tory hard Brexit right (who May depends on the stay in power) and the EU. Exactly. Now suddenly the government are doubling down hard on the fact a No deal is not possible and the Eu have, also suddenly, decided that the deadline can't be ext...

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So the EU is refusing to agree to a chequers deal or a fudge deal which is something you lot are against and don't want to happen. They are thereby trying to push us down an avenue where we have to just come out of the EU lock stock and two smoking barrels which is exactly what you and your 17.4m f...

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Where do you get your info Burnleymik? If a second referendum occurs, it will because enough people want it to happen. Something called, I dunno, "the will of the people" Pull the other one!! Enough people (17.4 million) wanted Brexit to happen and look where we are now. Are you saying it's only th...

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quoonbeatz wrote:what makes you think the uk government want to force a second referendum?

Why else would they submit a white paper they knew the Eu would reject?

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The deadline drawing in on March 2019 is not a narrative, it's a very simple fact. I know you lot don't like those, but there's no escaping it. We're leaving the EU in March 2019, at the UK's request. Your post is basically just a long way of saying that you've already identified your scapegoat if ...

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Because it would be pointless and unnecessary. As things stand, the UK will be out of the EU in March 2019, at the UK's request. Unless there is a very good reason, they won't see any need to extend that date, especially when the UK government is so clueless and incoherent. Absolutely agree with th...

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quoonbeatz wrote:
genuinely can't believe we're discussing express articles...

How can you deny this is not laughing at the source of the article? It's absolutely blatant.

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i don't lie. you can try and tell me what i was trying to do all you like but you'll still be wrong. if i'd been trying to discredit the source i'd have been discrediting the same source that was supporting what i was saying. why would i want to do that? have a think before you post, lads. Why laug...

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JohnMcGreal wrote:It's pretty obvious that the EU wouldn't be prepared to extend A50 simply so the UK can carry on stumbling around arguing with itself for another 12 months..

Why not? Surely it's in their interest to keep us in as long as possible?

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from who? unless i missed something, there were quotes from two unnamed MEPs saying they were thinking about it but I haven't seen anything from anyone important saying it was being considered. I have seen it mentioned numerous times, from both sides. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/...

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i didn't try to discredit anything, i was merely chuckling to myself that i read and subsequently discussed two articles from the express, a newspaper i have zero time for. but good try. There is no need to lie, you were genuinely trying to discredit the source, otherwise it makes no sense for you ...

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yes it is clear what they are trying to do, they are sticking to what has been long since agreed, its nothing new. all they've done is say they would consider extending article 50 if something changed dramatically, which is fair enough. That was my earlier point, there seemed to be a general consen...

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"When we spoke to Morgan face to face yesterday (Friday), he denied writing the email, and stated that it was written out for him in its entirety by his intermediary/agent/representative and he was simply told to send it from his email address." Here, send this, don't read it Morgan, just send it. ...

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Look, just 4 days ago the Eu were happy to extend article 50 and an MEP confirmed it: https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/991165/Brexit-news-update-Article-50-extension-Peter-Bone-UK-Parliament-latest" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; One MEP said last night: "There has been serious talk ...

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they haven't demanded anything. that's what lancaster means when he says you hear what you want to hear. they've just pointed out that unless there's a change of direction and a second referendum, we're stuck with the time limits already agreed. nothing wrong with that at all. So, it's okay for the...

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There’s no quotes in the from anyone in the EU stating this, it’s the Expresses own interpretation of ‘change in U.K. politics’. ...but how could there be a change of politics, unless there was another referendum? I think it's quite clear what they mean. There is no reason to suddenly decide they c...

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Thats not what the EU said, burnleymik and you know it. You persist in using absolute answers in stuff you want to hear, rather than what has actually been said. To be fair, you are a Brexiteer so its standard, but its still annoying. First paragraph: THE UK cannot extend article 50 negotiations an...

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What happened to the UKIP thread? Anyways back to the EU :mrgreen: https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/992738/brexit-news-eu-uk-politics-theresa-may-michel-barnier" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; EU warns Brexit talks CANNOT be extended unless there is ANOTHER referendum If this i...

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I suppose an agent is there to get as much for his client as he possibly can. He doesn't really care if the club thinks he is a muppet, or worse, that is his job and his only goal.

Kudos to BW for standing their ground too.

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So if things could be worse, they’re not at rock bottom and folk do, in fact, have something to lose. And they will lose a lot in the event of a hard Brexit. I meant it in literal terms, i.e. they could be living in the conditions of some third world countries. The UK is not that. As for their lot ...

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I think I’ve seen you (or maybe another Brexiteer) make this point before, and I think you’re underestimating where rock bottom is. Not that I want to underestimate the plight of the working poor, particularly under this Tory government, but surely you can see the inherent contradiction between “we...

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So if vehicles have to stop at a checkpoint, it's effectively a hard border, yes? .... and May has stated again in the last 24 hours that the Good Friday agreement has to be honoured. She said both sides in the negotiation "share a determination never to see a hard border in Northern Ireland". "And...

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Of course the EU don't want a hard border, indeed their negotiations have been underpinned by a determination to avoid one, but if the UK wants to revert to WTO rules then the WTO requires one. (Why do you think that the government have been desperately proposing radical technological solutions for...

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Don't get me wrong they don't look like nice places, but if you were homeless and Winter was approaching would you consider it for a warm place to sleep and 3 square meals? Just hypothetically.

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Amazing how some things are interpreted by people on here.

As far as I can see he hasn't said it was acceptable or okay once. All he seems to disagree with is the level of priority it should be given.

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Rileybobs wrote:So words can’t genuinely incite hatred? I’m confused.

Okay, let's try it another way. Do you want to police to be involved in dealing with defining hate speech?

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This all feels a bit defeatist to me. The assumption that, as UK citizens, we are no longer capable of protecting and gaining our own rights anymore. I'm not saying that assumption is incorrect, just that it feels defeatist. We were global leaders at this sort of thing once, are we really so useles...

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Why do I think working rights would be bargained away in any trade deal outside the EU? Because the EU holds us to certain standards, and without those EU standards we can lower ours even further. All the points you make about being let go without reason within two years, and zero hours contracts a...

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Interesting, so after months posturing and pushing the UK government into a corner, regarding the Irish Border, the Eu are telling Varadkar that will be no physical border on a no deal scenario... https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/eu-calms-varadkar-s-fears-of-physical-border-checks-after-brex...

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Rileybobs wrote:You do understand that the term ‘hate crime’ applies to a lot more than verbal abuse don’t you?

Of course, but the problem is insults are now encompassed in "hate crime" and is treated the same way as things which genuinely incite hatred.

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The "cherry picking" argument only works if I've unfairly taking something out of context in order to attack it. I haven't. You asked what makes us think the EU is good for workers rights, and i sent you a link. And then mocked you for not even trying to find this information yourself. I could apol...

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