We wouldn't have had Trafford under dyche
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- Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 19115
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 19115
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
I've said it before. I can't blame Trafford anymore. It's now Vincent's fault for not replacing him in the side. I actually feel sorry for Trafford. He must be so devoid of confidence it's unbelievable. I really don't think it's having any effect whatsoever on he's confidence, I think he's obliviou...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 19115
- Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Palace away - quietly optimistic...
- Replies: 99
- Views: 4659
Re: Palace away - quietly optimistic...
If I’m honest I’m not. I am personally of the opinion it doesn’t matter who’s in goal we have got bigger issues. I’m specifically looking at the likes of Amdouni and Brownhill, they have been really poor for some time now and similarly I’m not sure this formation is benefitting us at all. Do we hav...
- Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Palace away - quietly optimistic...
- Replies: 99
- Views: 4659
Re: Palace away - quietly optimistic...
I am genuinely very optimistic for this game but VK just has to learn. Drop some of the deadwood that just hasn’t performed all season and add a bit more steal to side. Palace are there to be beaten we just need to get that starting eleven right I agree, palace there to be beaten, but more chance o...
- Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
- Replies: 120
- Views: 6107
Re: Aaron Ramsey injury
Every injury is slightly different, and different people recover at different rates even from very similar circumstances. They can hardly come out and say 'he'll be fit on 14th October at 1pm' so what's wrong with what they've said. Some people can't wait to knock the club for any little irrelevanc...
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Benson
- Replies: 53
- Views: 4674
Re: Benson
Of course, I'm simply asking a question and giving an opinion.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:39 pmI don't pick the team, I'm just telling you (roughly) what I remember.
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Benson
- Replies: 53
- Views: 4674
Re: Benson
Well the manager would hardly torpedo his own boat, so you can fairly safely assume that MB hasn't matched up to the required standard. How can he know that when he's played a mere stop/start 100 minute's, there's several other's who haven't matched up to the required standard yet have been selecte...
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Benson
- Replies: 53
- Views: 4674
Re: Benson
So if that's the case he's shown him he's ability last season, and look where it's got him.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:23 pmVK said something on the lines of European clubs weren't sure of his ability and that he (VK) was prepared to give MB a chance to prove himself.
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Benson
- Replies: 53
- Views: 4674
Re: Benson
Enlighten me, I missed that one
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
- Replies: 120
- Views: 6107
Re: Aaron Ramsey injury
I agree, but not really much thinking needed is there !
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
- Replies: 120
- Views: 6107
Re: Aaron Ramsey injury
I would think it's more a vk thing.
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
- Replies: 120
- Views: 6107
Re: Aaron Ramsey injury
And for as long as I can remember we've not had such an issue with disclosing information on injuries. Just a bit strange it's stopped now.
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Benson
- Replies: 53
- Views: 4674
Re: Benson
A key player, or a player that the fans took to because he changed games after coming off the bench? VK several times stated Benson was not fit enough to start Championship games… so why give him a new contract knowing that we were going up another level and hoping to stay two levels above Benson’s...
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
- Replies: 120
- Views: 6107
Re: Aaron Ramsey injury
VK won't say what he's done but season ending and suggested it might be most of the year. So why the hell not put the fan's in the picture, personally I'm not as bothered as I may be of foster for instance, because I'm not a fan of Ramsey, done nothing and hardly been fit since coming through the d...
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Benson
- Replies: 53
- Views: 4674
Re: Benson
OR: extended in preparation for the Championship next year. Bruun Larsenn and Tresor can go but Benny, Anass, Luca and Wilf would be a nightmare for Championship FBs. So then it would beg the question, of the four, benny anass luca and wilf, which 2 would be first choice. Can you imagine how bad Be...
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Zaroury
- Replies: 41
- Views: 4370
Re: Zaroury
Well Tresor seems to have fallen out of favour after a few unsatisfactory performances. And I’ve personally not seen a lack of application from Ramsey. Definitely an inability to impact a game but that’s another matter. I don’t really think he’s shown loyalty to this summer’s signings, the team has...
- Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Which team wins
- Replies: 63
- Views: 2199
Re: Which team wins
THB definitely couldn't get back - that was one of the only gripes against him. Recall him getting burnt at home against Hull fairly early on a few times. Maatsen could get back but was often high and wide - especially early season. Honestly if people rewatch some games from last season and the pos...
- Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The £100 million
- Replies: 89
- Views: 4127
Re: The £100 million
Not the only thing their struggling with.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:09 pmThe young players may well be struggling, both physically and mentally.
- Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: A Fantastic Championship Manager
- Replies: 66
- Views: 3111
Re: A Fantastic Championship Manager
It's the man management aspect that I have serious concerns about. Tactics are one thing but keeping a unit together and believing is the main thing - I haven't seen any evidence of that. To have just one player that played in a 101 point Champ winning team today is just insane. How can you expect ...
- Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The £100 million
- Replies: 89
- Views: 4127
Re: The £100 million
Doubt anybody will pay over £19m for a keeper that's shipped 55 goals after 25 games.Iloveyoubrady wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:38 pmThink Trafford, amdouni, Odobert, Koleosho and Berge are all worth as much or more than we paid. Ramsey and Tresor seem to be the two shockers imo.
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Top 3 hopes for next season?
- Replies: 76
- Views: 3230
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jay Rodtiguez
- Replies: 73
- Views: 5191
Re: Jay Rodtiguez
I've been saying it all season but today it was absolutely evident, if we play 2 up front he should be playing every week. His direct competition is Amdouni for the number 10 role and Jay offers so much more. I didnt see him lose a header from a long ball today, his link play is a step above Amdoun...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: VK OUT !!
- Replies: 347
- Views: 15420
Re: VK OUT !!
Correct, not that I didn't realise, but absolutely agree. Identity simply doesn't exist, leadership, anything.BabylonClaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:47 pmThere is another - a plan and purpose that the team is all working to. We look like we don't play with each other all week
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:21 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: VK OUT !!
- Replies: 347
- Views: 15420
Re: VK OUT !!
It's a shame, but this season is an absolute train wreck. From the outside Kompany looks bereft of ideas, some of his footballing decisions have been odd to say the least. Worryingly, his man management skills also appear questionable. The (admittedly in some cases enforced) replacement of key memb...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:52 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: VK OUT !!
- Replies: 347
- Views: 15420
Re: VK OUT !!
Plus a team who 10 years ago were non-league, finished 21 points behind us last year, spent a total of £23m look more likely to stay up. We dismantled a winning team, spent £100m and we are where we are now. All but mathematically relegated. And yes I know we’ve taken 4 points off Luton. Approximat...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:47 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: VK OUT !!
- Replies: 347
- Views: 15420
Re: VK OUT !!
If we get promoted again next season, which there's a 99% chance of doing, as there's no money knocking around in the championship. What hope have we got that anything will change with Vinny? What improvements have we seen from him in his time here. What makes you think we've a 99% chance of promot...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:31 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The future is difficult to fathom out
- Replies: 45
- Views: 2536
Re: The future is difficult to fathom out
It's been the worst season I can remember, an absolute car crash. The fact the crowd hasn't become more hostile is testament to our over-arching belief that this will all work out somehow. What went through my mind yesterday is this. In the second half I was getting behind JBG, Jay Rod and Fofana. ...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:15 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The future is difficult to fathom out
- Replies: 45
- Views: 2536
Re: The future is difficult to fathom out
VK and Pace need to sit down with the management team and discuss communication breakdown between players and them Personally I thought the decision to leave out Jay , Annas,Benny ,Jack Cork and Muric bewildering. Players in the team are performing poorly giving half arsed effort Brownhill was dire...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:52 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Which team wins
- Replies: 63
- Views: 2199
Re: Which team wins
Genuinely I think this season team is more talented and “better” than last seasons team. I expected a knee jerk from being beaten by Arsenal (who hammered the hammers last week don’t forget) but this is UTC supreme high level over reactions going on here. Not just Arsenal though is it, we've won 3 ...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:43 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ramsey
- Replies: 47
- Views: 5199
Re: Ramsey
Fair enough, thanks for explaining. I am part of the VK in camp, but I am far from happy about this season, there have been serious issues with recruitment but if you offered me any manager to get us back up it'd be Vincent Kompany. He's given me one of the most memorable seasons in my 40+ years wa...
- Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What a ******* shambles!
- Replies: 142
- Views: 7350
Re: What a ******* shambles!
If playing against teams that can spend more on one player than we can our entire squad is the barometer, it’s pointless even being in this league. However, you don’t have to go too far back in our own recent history to see that a well organised, hard working team can hold their own, and more on oc...
- Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What a ******* shambles!
- Replies: 142
- Views: 7350
Re: What a ******* shambles!
The money was spent on players within our budget, both in terms of transfer fees and wages, who have the potential to develop. I believe we will see the benefit of this strategy..... eventually. Strange then that other teams have academies for that purpose, I've not seen any other team throwing 6,7...
- Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cowards
- Replies: 76
- Views: 4822
Re: Cowards
I'm curious where you think the profits will come fromClaretAndJew wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:28 pmIt will bring success in the form of profits though, and that is all that matters to those in charge.
- Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What a ******* shambles!
- Replies: 142
- Views: 7350
Re: What a ******* shambles!
I honestly can't believe he spent the best part of £65 million on Amdouni, Trafford, Ramsey and Tresor. We'd have at least as many if not more points if non of them had signed. Staggering money for a club of our size. I believe the time was up for dyche, it had become stale. For whatever reason he'...
- Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:45 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Team for Arsenal
- Replies: 46
- Views: 2791
Re: Team for Arsenal
As a massive Trafford fan I have to say Muric has to play tomorrow. Every other solely personally attributable error has been punished - Zaroury, Al Dakhil, Roberts, Ekdal etc etc Anything less, then Kompany will lose his credibility with the players and it will be obviously be crass man management...
- Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Team for Arsenal
- Replies: 46
- Views: 2791
Re: Team for Arsenal
Can’t imagine any team including tresor could "get into em".HitchinClaret wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:02 pmTrafford
Assignon O'Shea Esteve Taylor
Brownhill Berge
Fofana Tresor Odabert
Amdouni
Get into em!
- Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Team for Arsenal
- Replies: 46
- Views: 2791
Re: Team for Arsenal
Trafford Amdouni O’Shea Brownhill all to definitely start. Rest including subs to be drawn out of the lucky dip bag tomorrow over breakfast. Think you could have forgotten to include Ramsey in that short list 🤔 but to be fair I can't see anything wrong in O'Shea's inclusion, I'd say he's the most s...
- Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:57 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Player Injury Information
- Replies: 66
- Views: 3973
- Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Player Injury Information
- Replies: 66
- Views: 3973
Re: Player Injury Information
I've watched burnley in far worse seasons than this, I Carnt see not knowing if someone is injured or not will have any impact whatsoever on my passion for the team. I've also watched Burnley in far worse seasons than this, but the key thing is, in far different circumstances, we should have done f...
- Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:44 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Player Injury Information
- Replies: 66
- Views: 3973
Re: Player Injury Information
The poor feedback on injuries, illogical team selections, puzzling substitutions and transfer strategies has all left me cold this season. I've got to the point where this regular confusion seems to take some of the passion I used to feel from a fans association with the club has been downgraded. M...
- Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Player Injury Information
- Replies: 66
- Views: 3973
Re: Player Injury Information
And is it really so important to us fans to know it? Perhaps an update when players are back in training, but that should suffice. Course it's so important, most of us are passionate and want to know when the mainstays are back, to give us the best chance of a win, but then on second thoughts does ...
- Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Let’s talk about Benson!
- Replies: 100
- Views: 5070
Re: Let’s talk about Benson!
Do you think there could be a reason that in the main the teams wanting our players were in the Championship and wanted them on loan. Then you take into account every single club saw Muric not playing and still didn't make an offer for his services, maybe it was the conduct with the Kosovan mafia t...
- Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Let’s talk about Benson!
- Replies: 100
- Views: 5070
Re: Let’s talk about Benson!
Wasn’t it said that Vincent had talks with Benson in January and said he was part of the plan then got him to stay? Imagine how furious you’d be if you then saw Vitinho coming in before you. Vincent is looking more of a mug as each week passes. If I was Benson I’d be doing all I could to get out in...
- Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Let’s talk about Benson!
- Replies: 100
- Views: 5070
Re: Let’s talk about Benson!
Got to agree
- Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Let’s talk about Benson!
- Replies: 100
- Views: 5070
Re: Let’s talk about Benson!
obviously Vincent isn't seeing it in training for him to be selected like a couple more who hadn't featured as much as last season and have gone out on loan who were not 100 percent focused on the job in hand.. There's 2 or 3 others that are on the pitch not 100% focused on the job in hand, so sure...
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28518
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
I keep saying this but VK decided in June that Muric was going to be replaced. At the time that was for Verbruggen (a full Netherlands international). The only logic that Trafford keeps playing and the board are happy to continue with JT in nets with the obvious weakness in the team that leaves is ...
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28518
Re: TRAFFORD
Without doubt Muric needs to start. Tbf my post is considering whatever i has happened to ensure Muric wasn’t deemed good enough last June hasn’t changed. Yeah, sorry if it comes across as anything other than agreeing really, and pointing out murics biggest downfall, but I enhance muric should abso...
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:25 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28518
Re: TRAFFORD
Trafford is going to continue to concede from crossses as PL teams are now focusing their efforts in that manner. He’s weak on crosses no doubt about it and that’s not helped by an ever changing defence and now midfield (with Ramsey starting the last two). I fully expect Massengo to be next to be c...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28518
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
That’s fair. I should have phrased it better. Until today I’d have said the Trafford hatred club was certainly in the majority but finding out 2 or even possibly four of them were the same person has probably killed that. That said, those pretty incendiary statements I quoted were all made from dif...